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Flying Sick Kids
To Rotorboater and anyone interested in flying sick children, you might like to look in to Starlight Days (at Popham) and the Burned Children’s Club flying days (at Bourn).
I appreciate that both these locations are to the south of the country. There may be something similar further north.
Both are excellent days flying, but be warned, they do bring a lump to the throat.
Safe Flying,
Richard W.
I appreciate that both these locations are to the south of the country. There may be something similar further north.
Both are excellent days flying, but be warned, they do bring a lump to the throat.
Safe Flying,
Richard W.
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Whiskey Kilo... Thanks for that. Can I also add that the wheels are in motion to set up a charity in Lincolnshire and I've been told that there will be an announcement in the coming weeks.
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That's a pretty bold statement for someone making his pprune debut!
You clearly have little of no knowledge about aircraft if you feel that such a gracious old lady should be kept in a museum.
Yes, you could take three up in any of the spamcans, but let's be honest - it's not quite the same as a trip in a vintage Tiger Moth, Auster or even a Chipunk is it? And how would those in the back get to fly it? hmmm
Oh, and by the way, they are called CHILDREN Sir!
That's a pretty bold statement for someone making his pprune debut!
You clearly have little of no knowledge about aircraft if you feel that such a gracious old lady should be kept in a museum.
Yes, you could take three up in any of the spamcans, but let's be honest - it's not quite the same as a trip in a vintage Tiger Moth, Auster or even a Chipunk is it? And how would those in the back get to fly it? hmmm
Oh, and by the way, they are called CHILDREN Sir!
It might not be a Tiger Moth anyway (and by-the-by I agree, Tigers should be in the air, not a cage).
There's a video on the Manchester Evening News link in Winco's post #38, which shows the flights being conducted in a T67.
There's a video on the Manchester Evening News link in Winco's post #38, which shows the flights being conducted in a T67.
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Welcome to the forum Skyhawk Pilot, I can see you meant well, I must admit when I was young being in the air was fantastic for me, and I would not have cared if it was C150 or a Tiger Moth.
However many pilots on this forum have a great affinity for the good old Tiger Moth, must admit does not do too much for me, but each to their own.
However many pilots on this forum have a great affinity for the good old Tiger Moth, must admit does not do too much for me, but each to their own.
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Hoodie - Go back and read Peter's post (3rd post) and you'll see why he's using the T67 and not he Tiger. It's not through choice!
I have to say, while the aircraft choice isn't the most important thing, the Children are sick, and it's no about loading 3 at a time into a Cessna... It's about giving them some one to one quality time.
I have to say, while the aircraft choice isn't the most important thing, the Children are sick, and it's no about loading 3 at a time into a Cessna... It's about giving them some one to one quality time.
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What are you all talking about
She was called Huffy, G-AHUF.
Not my thing, I don't actually like flying, I'm frightened of flying, more so for having hung out with pilots down at Shoreham and listening to the details of what can go wrong.
It was never my world and never my thing but I understood and saw the passion in their talk and their hearts. Rivalry about fixed wing or rotary, tail draggers or nose wheel. Most of them were skint, most scraped what they could together and flew an hour maybe two a month if they were lucky. The rest of the time they were in the bar chatting endlessly about their experiences and opinions.
But all the time I sat and listened to them I wondered how many of them had really ever felt complete and utter depravation, or even experience starvation or poverty, how lucky they all were to have the luxury to sit and complain about so many trivial things.
One night down the bar there were a load of pilots and others slating the character of someone who'd been in the newspapers 'He did it all right' 'Serves him right, he gets what he deserves.'. This was before my departure, before my arrest. I told them all not to judge and not to believe what they read in the newspapers about someone. I somewhat silenced the bar and I could see they didn't have a clue.
I don't like Adrian, he owes me several apologies and one big fat favour. But he told me he had cancer and the fear of his life being shortened may have made him do things he wouldn't have ordinarily, I have to give him that.
Those kids would probably give anything to have a go in anything, probably love to have a go with a top of the range remote control aeroplane and here you all are bickering about what's better, tail wheel or nose, well as a non-aviator I've heard it all before. You are all so lucky, so, so lucky to have the chance to have a hobby that you love that is so elite whatever the aircraft, could you not unite and share it for once.
When my husband agreed to run away with me he knew that he would be giving up aviation, his flying club, and so he did and I am so proud of him for having done that in the name of love. I wish I had the money to pay for him to fly again but I don't, or find a way to pay him back for all that he has sacrificed for me, but I can't. He says he's not bothered but I still feel bad about it.
Whatever kind of **** Adrian is he let them go up in Huffy, how many others on here will now offer their planes for use to those kids.
Not my thing, I don't actually like flying, I'm frightened of flying, more so for having hung out with pilots down at Shoreham and listening to the details of what can go wrong.
It was never my world and never my thing but I understood and saw the passion in their talk and their hearts. Rivalry about fixed wing or rotary, tail draggers or nose wheel. Most of them were skint, most scraped what they could together and flew an hour maybe two a month if they were lucky. The rest of the time they were in the bar chatting endlessly about their experiences and opinions.
But all the time I sat and listened to them I wondered how many of them had really ever felt complete and utter depravation, or even experience starvation or poverty, how lucky they all were to have the luxury to sit and complain about so many trivial things.
One night down the bar there were a load of pilots and others slating the character of someone who'd been in the newspapers 'He did it all right' 'Serves him right, he gets what he deserves.'. This was before my departure, before my arrest. I told them all not to judge and not to believe what they read in the newspapers about someone. I somewhat silenced the bar and I could see they didn't have a clue.
I don't like Adrian, he owes me several apologies and one big fat favour. But he told me he had cancer and the fear of his life being shortened may have made him do things he wouldn't have ordinarily, I have to give him that.
Those kids would probably give anything to have a go in anything, probably love to have a go with a top of the range remote control aeroplane and here you all are bickering about what's better, tail wheel or nose, well as a non-aviator I've heard it all before. You are all so lucky, so, so lucky to have the chance to have a hobby that you love that is so elite whatever the aircraft, could you not unite and share it for once.
When my husband agreed to run away with me he knew that he would be giving up aviation, his flying club, and so he did and I am so proud of him for having done that in the name of love. I wish I had the money to pay for him to fly again but I don't, or find a way to pay him back for all that he has sacrificed for me, but I can't. He says he's not bothered but I still feel bad about it.
Whatever kind of **** Adrian is he let them go up in Huffy, how many others on here will now offer their planes for use to those kids.
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Sorry Fiona but Bollox. I've just finished a year of chemo and the "fear" of having cancer never, ever made me do anything dodgy or even want to. Nor has it done that to any of the peope I know who have fought or are fighting cancer. Your outlook may change but not your personality. If you are honest before you are diagnosed, then you'll be honest afterwards.
If I want to argue with someone on an aviation website about a daft statement, then I will.
I don't see any argument about tailwheel Vs. nosewheel, just someone making an idiotic statement and being challenged on it.
Back to Matthews, he may have taken kids up in his aircraft, but what was the real purpose? Cover for nefarious activities? More than likely.
If that is so, then may he rot. Taking advantage of people's goodwill and generosity on an emotive issue such as terminally ill children is the lowest of low acts.
Tell us again Fiona, why is it you ran off instead of facing the music and clearing your name? The old phrase, no smoke without fire comes to mind.
Have you ever offered to reimburse the coastguard after you legged it after faking your own suicide?
If I want to argue with someone on an aviation website about a daft statement, then I will.
I don't see any argument about tailwheel Vs. nosewheel, just someone making an idiotic statement and being challenged on it.
Back to Matthews, he may have taken kids up in his aircraft, but what was the real purpose? Cover for nefarious activities? More than likely.
If that is so, then may he rot. Taking advantage of people's goodwill and generosity on an emotive issue such as terminally ill children is the lowest of low acts.
Tell us again Fiona, why is it you ran off instead of facing the music and clearing your name? The old phrase, no smoke without fire comes to mind.
Have you ever offered to reimburse the coastguard after you legged it after faking your own suicide?
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There was no air sea rescue as Audrey Gillion of the MCRA can tell you if you like to email her. That's exactly what I mean about believing what the media have to say.
I am no fan of Adrian's, I don't like him, I have issues with him. And I am sorry you've been ill, I really am, but that's not my fault either.
Attack me if you like, I'm used to it, I've been attacked and attacked, called every name under the sun. Been called a stuck up bitch who needs more money or in other cases a scummy gypsy by some, a lazy bitch by other regardless of the fact that I do and have worked like a bastard.
You are being rude and agressive in your response to me which I think is uncalled for. I have done nothing to you. I'm trying to be level headed and put some perspective in, as I understand it some kids did go up in the plane and thats something. Putting Adrian's situation aside wouldn't it be nice if others could offer their planes.
If you think that the 'hang him and burn him' approach will work then you're wrong. Hate only breeds hate.
I am no fan of Adrian's, I don't like him, I have issues with him. And I am sorry you've been ill, I really am, but that's not my fault either.
Attack me if you like, I'm used to it, I've been attacked and attacked, called every name under the sun. Been called a stuck up bitch who needs more money or in other cases a scummy gypsy by some, a lazy bitch by other regardless of the fact that I do and have worked like a bastard.
You are being rude and agressive in your response to me which I think is uncalled for. I have done nothing to you. I'm trying to be level headed and put some perspective in, as I understand it some kids did go up in the plane and thats something. Putting Adrian's situation aside wouldn't it be nice if others could offer their planes.
If you think that the 'hang him and burn him' approach will work then you're wrong. Hate only breeds hate.
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Not sure how you could be responsible for me getting ill, but nevermind. I blame no body or thing for me having been ill. That's just how it is sometimes.
Don't construe my comments as a hugely personal attack, however, you do have a murky past and your actions of running away instead of fighting your corner don't exactly show you in the best light do they? Have any of my comments been untrue?
If you had been cleared in court, then I would have no trouble believing that you are who and what you claim to be, but all there is, is the press reports and then your side of the story.
Coming from a position of neutrality (seeing as I've never heard of you and couldn't really care less) and giving due regard to the often appalling standard of journalism in this country, your actions still smack of someone with something to hide. Faking suicide (I mention nothing about helicopters, they aren't the only cost involved when searching for someone) and then legging it whilst on bail are a bit "suspicious".
I'm not here to pass judgement on you, but as for a hang him and burn him approach to Matthews. Nowt wrong with that if he's guilty of what I think he is.
In fact there are many people sharpening their pitchforks and dipping their torches in pitch as we type.
He may have taken some kids up flying, but if it was done to extort money using sick children as a cover then................... Let's just say I wouldn't oppose it if the death penalty was brought back in for just one case.
There is no "perspective" in a case such as this. It is too emotive and the evidence gathered so far points firmly in one direction only.
There are many charities and people who do offer the use of their machines for no charge whatsoever (I have done it on a a fair few occasions), they don't even ask for fuel or other costs, unlike TigersforKids, shysters make offering your time and aircraft more difficult by forcing more regulation and making people suspicious.
There are other issues such as the legality of whether he is even licenced to be able to do this, insurance, CRB checks etc. Do you reckon Matthews would pass a CRB check needed for working with kids or vulnerable adults and does he have the appropriate insurances.............? Mind you, who would be checking the CRB certificate even if he got one?
If it is legitimate, then I would applaud anyone who is involved.
Don't construe my comments as a hugely personal attack, however, you do have a murky past and your actions of running away instead of fighting your corner don't exactly show you in the best light do they? Have any of my comments been untrue?
If you had been cleared in court, then I would have no trouble believing that you are who and what you claim to be, but all there is, is the press reports and then your side of the story.
Coming from a position of neutrality (seeing as I've never heard of you and couldn't really care less) and giving due regard to the often appalling standard of journalism in this country, your actions still smack of someone with something to hide. Faking suicide (I mention nothing about helicopters, they aren't the only cost involved when searching for someone) and then legging it whilst on bail are a bit "suspicious".
I'm not here to pass judgement on you, but as for a hang him and burn him approach to Matthews. Nowt wrong with that if he's guilty of what I think he is.
In fact there are many people sharpening their pitchforks and dipping their torches in pitch as we type.
He may have taken some kids up flying, but if it was done to extort money using sick children as a cover then................... Let's just say I wouldn't oppose it if the death penalty was brought back in for just one case.
There is no "perspective" in a case such as this. It is too emotive and the evidence gathered so far points firmly in one direction only.
There are many charities and people who do offer the use of their machines for no charge whatsoever (I have done it on a a fair few occasions), they don't even ask for fuel or other costs, unlike TigersforKids, shysters make offering your time and aircraft more difficult by forcing more regulation and making people suspicious.
There are other issues such as the legality of whether he is even licenced to be able to do this, insurance, CRB checks etc. Do you reckon Matthews would pass a CRB check needed for working with kids or vulnerable adults and does he have the appropriate insurances.............? Mind you, who would be checking the CRB certificate even if he got one?
If it is legitimate, then I would applaud anyone who is involved.
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I'm not sticking up for him and you make many valid points about it. But I've been on the receiving end of witch hunts myself and I just thought I should point that out.
Much as it sticks in my throat he is innocent until proved guilty. There are usually reasons behind peoples behaviour, those reasons are often complicated and without knowing every detail about what a person has lived through it is impossible to understand their motivation.
You say you are not here to judge me but you do. You choose to believe what the papers said, papers that were fed with lies by Skerrett and Matthews. I have every reason to hate Adrian and yet as a Christian I am trying to find it within myself to forgive him and try to come to terms with my own anger. God give me strength.
And at least I post in my own name and not as an annonymous entity.
Much as it sticks in my throat he is innocent until proved guilty. There are usually reasons behind peoples behaviour, those reasons are often complicated and without knowing every detail about what a person has lived through it is impossible to understand their motivation.
You say you are not here to judge me but you do. You choose to believe what the papers said, papers that were fed with lies by Skerrett and Matthews. I have every reason to hate Adrian and yet as a Christian I am trying to find it within myself to forgive him and try to come to terms with my own anger. God give me strength.
And at least I post in my own name and not as an annonymous entity.
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If you think that the 'hang him and burn him' approach will work then you're wrong. Hate only breeds hate.
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Say again s l o w l y - you're an idiot - you don't even know this guy ! Everything you have cooked up and stirred up at this point is based on conjecture - who the hell are you to judge anyway?. What if it isn't a scam?, can you see the damage you're doing ?!
Where's your evidence? If you're bold enough to come forward with any evidence about this then let us know about it - THEN we can start to 'sharpen out pitch forks' as you so nicely put it.
As Fiona so rightly says, it's easy to sit behind the security of your keyboard an monitor as an anonymous entity - I smell 'bully'
Where's your evidence? If you're bold enough to come forward with any evidence about this then let us know about it - THEN we can start to 'sharpen out pitch forks' as you so nicely put it.
As Fiona so rightly says, it's easy to sit behind the security of your keyboard an monitor as an anonymous entity - I smell 'bully'
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You are now begining to sound a bit like AM's brother!..........oh oh, you're not are you ?
I wouldn't question his flying ability (although others would) and after all, he flies that Tiger with a Gypsy engine it, something you think will kill him and all other Gypsy users aswell.
But how do you know he is a damned good pilot? What is your connection with him and how do you know him well enough to form that opinion of his aviating skills?
Come on Skyhawk Pilot, let us in on your little secret, pleeeease!!
You are now begining to sound a bit like AM's brother!..........oh oh, you're not are you ?
I wouldn't question his flying ability (although others would) and after all, he flies that Tiger with a Gypsy engine it, something you think will kill him and all other Gypsy users aswell.
But how do you know he is a damned good pilot? What is your connection with him and how do you know him well enough to form that opinion of his aviating skills?
Come on Skyhawk Pilot, let us in on your little secret, pleeeease!!
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bose-x I'm sorry but I cant agree with you.
I have seen first hand how Mr Matthews runs his charity, and it is down right disgusting. I dont think it's unreasonable to say that I hate someone who used some of the most vulnerable people in the world as a cover for their own scam. People have donated huge sums of money to the 'charity' (Believe me... I know!!!!) and it hasn't gone where it was supposed to go. Indeed, it's simply been used to line the pockets of the Matthews family. It's down right disgusting, inexcusable, and I hate him for that. If you think that lowers me to the same level as him, then you are VERY much mistaken.
What was it you said? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... I tell you what, why dont you have an association with him for a few months, and then come back here and tell us all what stone you cast.
Believe me, the man is nothing but trouble... In it purely for his own gain. He's addicted to attention... It's never about the Children... It's always about him, and what a great pilot he his.
I have seen first hand how Mr Matthews runs his charity, and it is down right disgusting. I dont think it's unreasonable to say that I hate someone who used some of the most vulnerable people in the world as a cover for their own scam. People have donated huge sums of money to the 'charity' (Believe me... I know!!!!) and it hasn't gone where it was supposed to go. Indeed, it's simply been used to line the pockets of the Matthews family. It's down right disgusting, inexcusable, and I hate him for that. If you think that lowers me to the same level as him, then you are VERY much mistaken.
What was it you said? "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"... I tell you what, why dont you have an association with him for a few months, and then come back here and tell us all what stone you cast.
Believe me, the man is nothing but trouble... In it purely for his own gain. He's addicted to attention... It's never about the Children... It's always about him, and what a great pilot he his.
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You'd imagine that despite the charitable nature of the operation, he'd need an AOC. I can't see him/the charity/company in the list here:
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Fiona, Matthews is a CONVICTED fraudster already. It doesn't take a genius to work out that with his track record and current actions what is going on. I am not a judge or a juror, so my opinions are not bound by "innocent until proven guilty".
I don't care what has happened in someones life to make them act in a certain way. That is no excuse. We all know what constitutes "acceptable" and legal behaviour and we are all bound by the laws and regulations in this country regardless of upbringing. Ignorance of the law is no defense.
You have been on the receiving end of a lot of attention from the police and media and whilst I will never pretend that they get it right 100% of the time, you are still technically a fugitive from justice.
If you are innocent of the £300,000 fraud that you have been accused of, then why not present yourself to the Police and get it all cleared up? Or is it that because of your subsequent actions there would be further charges and you don't wish to face these.
I would expect a practising Christian to be an honest individual who confronts their past mistakes.
You are coming to terms with your anger? A very easy phrase to say, why not do it by proving your innocence in a court of law or by having the Police drop the case. That way, you will have been proved right and your name will be cleared. A moral victory would do more to disperse anger than any amount of hiding and whinging.
People who run usually have something to hide and I don't for one second believe it is as clearcut as you simply being a scapegoat who is whiter than white. I doubt you are the devil incarnate either, but like most things the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
We all make mistakes, but what defines us as people is how we accept the consequences of our actions. You haven't done that, so I find it very interesting that you would come on here and moralise about anything. In my eyes, you haven't earnt that right.
Matthews is under investigation currently and the truth will eventually out, there are some tenacious people involved and if he is found to be guilty then I for one will be happy. If he is found entirely innocent, then that is also good, but I somehow doubt that everything is above board.
Bose, this isn't the Dail Mail here, so there is some balance hopefully, but you cannot tell me that if he is found guilty of another fraud you won't be outraged? I would be very surprised if you said no.
Hate is a horrid thing. I don't hate anyone unless they think wearing a swastika is a good thing, then I lose all rationality. In this case I have strong dislike and distaste, but that is only after seeing evidence that points to something being very, very wrong.
Standing up against something you find disgusting is our right and in many cases our duty. I just wish more people would be pushed into action when they felt strongly about something. If they were, then maybe we wouldn't have the social issues in this country that we have. Social apathy is a disease that seems to have paralysed the nation sometimes and allows scumbags to get away with all sorts of things, from loutish behaviour to fraud.
I don't care what has happened in someones life to make them act in a certain way. That is no excuse. We all know what constitutes "acceptable" and legal behaviour and we are all bound by the laws and regulations in this country regardless of upbringing. Ignorance of the law is no defense.
You have been on the receiving end of a lot of attention from the police and media and whilst I will never pretend that they get it right 100% of the time, you are still technically a fugitive from justice.
If you are innocent of the £300,000 fraud that you have been accused of, then why not present yourself to the Police and get it all cleared up? Or is it that because of your subsequent actions there would be further charges and you don't wish to face these.
I would expect a practising Christian to be an honest individual who confronts their past mistakes.
You are coming to terms with your anger? A very easy phrase to say, why not do it by proving your innocence in a court of law or by having the Police drop the case. That way, you will have been proved right and your name will be cleared. A moral victory would do more to disperse anger than any amount of hiding and whinging.
People who run usually have something to hide and I don't for one second believe it is as clearcut as you simply being a scapegoat who is whiter than white. I doubt you are the devil incarnate either, but like most things the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
We all make mistakes, but what defines us as people is how we accept the consequences of our actions. You haven't done that, so I find it very interesting that you would come on here and moralise about anything. In my eyes, you haven't earnt that right.
Matthews is under investigation currently and the truth will eventually out, there are some tenacious people involved and if he is found to be guilty then I for one will be happy. If he is found entirely innocent, then that is also good, but I somehow doubt that everything is above board.
Bose, this isn't the Dail Mail here, so there is some balance hopefully, but you cannot tell me that if he is found guilty of another fraud you won't be outraged? I would be very surprised if you said no.
Hate is a horrid thing. I don't hate anyone unless they think wearing a swastika is a good thing, then I lose all rationality. In this case I have strong dislike and distaste, but that is only after seeing evidence that points to something being very, very wrong.
Standing up against something you find disgusting is our right and in many cases our duty. I just wish more people would be pushed into action when they felt strongly about something. If they were, then maybe we wouldn't have the social issues in this country that we have. Social apathy is a disease that seems to have paralysed the nation sometimes and allows scumbags to get away with all sorts of things, from loutish behaviour to fraud.