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Peter,
I think you meant 'vulnerable people' but the rest of what you say is absolutely true.
Say again Slowly - I can tell you that he HAS had a CRB check! The thing about CRB checks however, is that the company/organisation who requests them, gets the results, NO ONE ELSE!! Now in the case of Tigers for Kids, I suppose it was his mother who got the results of the CRB check and she won't have been too suprised at all to find her beloved son had been a bad boy in the past, and there endeth the exercise.
As far as the authorities are concerned, Matthews has passed the CRB and all is well. What a joke it makes of the CRB checks, when there is NO independant check done on the results! But thats another story.
Anyway, can we now stop all this nonesence regarding Tail wheels v Nose wheels and Gypsy powered aircraft being dangerous and unsafe, and Tigers in cages and get back to the serious issue of stopping this character from ripping anyone else off? Thank you.
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I think you meant 'vulnerable people' but the rest of what you say is absolutely true.
Say again Slowly - I can tell you that he HAS had a CRB check! The thing about CRB checks however, is that the company/organisation who requests them, gets the results, NO ONE ELSE!! Now in the case of Tigers for Kids, I suppose it was his mother who got the results of the CRB check and she won't have been too suprised at all to find her beloved son had been a bad boy in the past, and there endeth the exercise.
As far as the authorities are concerned, Matthews has passed the CRB and all is well. What a joke it makes of the CRB checks, when there is NO independant check done on the results! But thats another story.
Anyway, can we now stop all this nonesence regarding Tail wheels v Nose wheels and Gypsy powered aircraft being dangerous and unsafe, and Tigers in cages and get back to the serious issue of stopping this character from ripping anyone else off? Thank you.
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SaS - It seems that the CPS have decided not to pursue Ms Mont, and if so she is innocent and has no need to pursue the matter. There is a recently updated Wiki entry on her:
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Bose, this isn't the Dail Mail here, so there is some balance hopefully, but you cannot tell me that if he is found guilty of another fraud you won't be outraged? I would be very surprised if you said no.
As far as I am concerned I will leave the pursuit of him to the authorities and leave it at that.
For what it's worth mate your pursuit of Fiona Mont is a little out of order as well. I have not met her, don't know her and am not prepared to stand in judgement of her either. However if she has been as wronged by this man as seems she is the only one who has grounds to vilify the guy and yet she seems to be one of those displaying balanced reason.
Food for thought.
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So Bose, you are saying that if you heard of someone defrauding people for whatever reason, you wouldn't find that distasteful? Seriously?
Red top readers aren't the usual renta mob you describe, that is solely reserved for readers of that bastion of level headed and honest reporting that is the Dail Mail. I can assure you. I wouldn't line the cat's litter tray with that rag. (Or any newspaper with a red top for that case either.)
Do you not feel the tiniest bit of annoyance that someone is using something we both care about to rip people off? You are one cold individual if that is the case, but I'll bet there are things that you are passionate about that I couldn't give a fig for. There's nothing wrong with a bit of diversity in how we think or act.
Fiona, since the case has been dropped by the CPS (according to wikipedia that ever so reliable source of information.............) I will desist in asking you questions. It does seem as if you probably suffered enough. Living for years in squalor and with the threat of extradition hanging over your head is undoubtably worse than having simply spent 6 months inside (on the basis that you'd have been found guilty, not a certainty of course.)
The CPS drop cases for many, many reason. Guilt or innocence rarely have much to do with why the case doesn't make it to court.
30-Year-old brunette Beauty Fiona Mont
How Britain's most wanted woman met her showdown | UK news | The Observer
Red top readers aren't the usual renta mob you describe, that is solely reserved for readers of that bastion of level headed and honest reporting that is the Dail Mail. I can assure you. I wouldn't line the cat's litter tray with that rag. (Or any newspaper with a red top for that case either.)
Do you not feel the tiniest bit of annoyance that someone is using something we both care about to rip people off? You are one cold individual if that is the case, but I'll bet there are things that you are passionate about that I couldn't give a fig for. There's nothing wrong with a bit of diversity in how we think or act.
Fiona, since the case has been dropped by the CPS (according to wikipedia that ever so reliable source of information.............) I will desist in asking you questions. It does seem as if you probably suffered enough. Living for years in squalor and with the threat of extradition hanging over your head is undoubtably worse than having simply spent 6 months inside (on the basis that you'd have been found guilty, not a certainty of course.)
The CPS drop cases for many, many reason. Guilt or innocence rarely have much to do with why the case doesn't make it to court.
30-Year-old brunette Beauty Fiona Mont
How Britain's most wanted woman met her showdown | UK news | The Observer
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So Bose, you are saying that if you heard of someone defrauding people for whatever reason, you wouldn't find that distasteful? Seriously?
There are way to many on here who see it as their duty to do so already.
I just feel these things have a tendency to get out of control to easily.
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I see your point, but once people get an idea from whatever news source (be it TV, Newspaper, Internet) and they then research it and get involved, that no longer is a case of someone being part of renta mob and actually having a bit of knowledge about the situation.
If at that point you still don't feel annoyed at something like this, then there is something wrong. Why did I feel motivated by this, well. I'll give you three guesses........
If at that point you still don't feel annoyed at something like this, then there is something wrong. Why did I feel motivated by this, well. I'll give you three guesses........
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SAS, it's your choice.
If it is something you feel you need pursue then it's your call but don't be indignant that others don't see it the same way. If we got involved in everything we see as an injustice in the world we would be Bob Geldof........
If it is something you feel you need pursue then it's your call but don't be indignant that others don't see it the same way. If we got involved in everything we see as an injustice in the world we would be Bob Geldof........
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God no!! I like washing.
Oh the irony!
And you are who exactly? Hmmm I wonder.
If this isn't a scam then I'll be extremely surprised. I know enough about charities and flying to know that this is as dodgy as it comes. You want evidence, then I suggest you talk to the people doing the investigating. They've plenty.
Bullying.... Oh do grow up.
leafsandbranches Say again s l o w l y - you're an idiot - you don't even know this guy ! Everything you have cooked up and stirred up at this point is based on conjecture - who the hell are you to judge anyway?. What if it isn't a scam?, can you see the damage you're doing ?!
Where's your evidence? If you're bold enough to come forward with any evidence about this then let us know about it - THEN we can start to 'sharpen out pitch forks' as you so nicely put it.
As Fiona so rightly says, it's easy to sit behind the security of your keyboard an monitor as an anonymous entity - I smell 'bully'
Where's your evidence? If you're bold enough to come forward with any evidence about this then let us know about it - THEN we can start to 'sharpen out pitch forks' as you so nicely put it.
As Fiona so rightly says, it's easy to sit behind the security of your keyboard an monitor as an anonymous entity - I smell 'bully'
And you are who exactly? Hmmm I wonder.
If this isn't a scam then I'll be extremely surprised. I know enough about charities and flying to know that this is as dodgy as it comes. You want evidence, then I suggest you talk to the people doing the investigating. They've plenty.
Bullying.... Oh do grow up.
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Hey Guys,
Knock it of for Christ's sake, you're like a bunch of school kids bickering away.
You have to be completely blind or just plain stupid to see that this guy isn't a fraud. He has a proven record of criminality, and having read what's going on here I have no doubt that this was another one of his scams to get money from kind-hearted people who believed they were giving to a worthy charity, when all the time they were funding his lifestyle.
I'm not interested in all this crap about 'at least he let the kids fly in his aircraft' - big deal. He wasn't doing it for the kids - he was doing for himself.
I notice that Mr Matthews has declined to come on here and defend himself to date, as has his brother. That's strange, bearing in mind that they were only too keen to come onto prune over the SAMRA thing and threaten people with litigation etc. You have to ask yourself why neither of them have surfaced on here or infact anywhere. I understand that Adrian simply didn't turn up for a pre arranged interview with the press the day before it broke, and his brother was the one who pitched up for the Manchester gazette (or whatever)
leavesandbranches, you're another one who took the opportunity to mark your first posting on pprune with an unwarranted attack on SaS - how dare you? I hope the mods will take note of that and consider carefully whether to leave you on here after your probation. Next time you post, try to imagine you're an adult and post something worthwhile and constructive.
I also see that there are quite a few 'first-timers' to pprune intent on getting there views out on this forum, and mainly in defence of this criminal. That's strange isn't it? I wonder why? Maybe one is called Brian and one is Adrian???
Kind regsards to all
TSM
Knock it of for Christ's sake, you're like a bunch of school kids bickering away.
You have to be completely blind or just plain stupid to see that this guy isn't a fraud. He has a proven record of criminality, and having read what's going on here I have no doubt that this was another one of his scams to get money from kind-hearted people who believed they were giving to a worthy charity, when all the time they were funding his lifestyle.
I'm not interested in all this crap about 'at least he let the kids fly in his aircraft' - big deal. He wasn't doing it for the kids - he was doing for himself.
I notice that Mr Matthews has declined to come on here and defend himself to date, as has his brother. That's strange, bearing in mind that they were only too keen to come onto prune over the SAMRA thing and threaten people with litigation etc. You have to ask yourself why neither of them have surfaced on here or infact anywhere. I understand that Adrian simply didn't turn up for a pre arranged interview with the press the day before it broke, and his brother was the one who pitched up for the Manchester gazette (or whatever)
leavesandbranches, you're another one who took the opportunity to mark your first posting on pprune with an unwarranted attack on SaS - how dare you? I hope the mods will take note of that and consider carefully whether to leave you on here after your probation. Next time you post, try to imagine you're an adult and post something worthwhile and constructive.
I also see that there are quite a few 'first-timers' to pprune intent on getting there views out on this forum, and mainly in defence of this criminal. That's strange isn't it? I wonder why? Maybe one is called Brian and one is Adrian???
Kind regsards to all
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How dare I ?
I thought I was allowed to express my opinion !
I don't know these guys but I'm just reading between the lines, everyone seems to be attacking them but no one has any concrete evidence !?
Is he not being investigated as we speak, lets hold fire until the outcome !
I thought I was allowed to express my opinion !
I don't know these guys but I'm just reading between the lines, everyone seems to be attacking them but no one has any concrete evidence !?
Is he not being investigated as we speak, lets hold fire until the outcome !
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Lets just stick to the facts!
Adrian Matthews is being investigated because he appeared on television stations & in local newspapers asking for money to run his REGISTERED charity! Jacqueline Seatle at the Charity Commission had already started to investigate him before he made his public appearances because, as you all know 'Tigers for Kids' was struck off from the Companies House Register in June 2004.
Adrian Matthews was still claiming to his sponsors and anybody that would listen to him that he ran a REGISTERED charity! Now why is that? Is that because, if it's a registered charity people are likely to give him more money?
It seems to me there is no stopping this man. He must be pretty stupid to 'front' his own charity with his fraudulent record. Did he not think his past would ever catch up with him? Maybe his ego drives him and he wants to be seen as a hero!! A very deluded human being if you ask me!
Fiona, you said that Adrian 'owes you one'. what do you mean?
I actually feel sorry for this man. I pity him and his family. They must live a very loveless spiteful bitter life.
Adrian Matthews was still claiming to his sponsors and anybody that would listen to him that he ran a REGISTERED charity! Now why is that? Is that because, if it's a registered charity people are likely to give him more money?
It seems to me there is no stopping this man. He must be pretty stupid to 'front' his own charity with his fraudulent record. Did he not think his past would ever catch up with him? Maybe his ego drives him and he wants to be seen as a hero!! A very deluded human being if you ask me!
Fiona, you said that Adrian 'owes you one'. what do you mean?
I actually feel sorry for this man. I pity him and his family. They must live a very loveless spiteful bitter life.
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Great thread, love it.
A number of new members think he is whiter than the driven snow.
A number of other new members think he is whiter than the driven slush.
A number of regular members think we should wait and find out in the press.
A number of regular members want to march to Manchester for a lynching.
Most of the above are now arguing with each other on points entirely unconnected with the subject of the thread..
"Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel...tra-la-la-la-la-la-lala, tr-la-la-la-la-lala.la...."
A number of new members think he is whiter than the driven snow.
A number of other new members think he is whiter than the driven slush.
A number of regular members think we should wait and find out in the press.
A number of regular members want to march to Manchester for a lynching.
Most of the above are now arguing with each other on points entirely unconnected with the subject of the thread..
"Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel...tra-la-la-la-la-la-lala, tr-la-la-la-la-lala.la...."
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A number of new members think he is whiter than the driven snow.
A number of other new members think he is whiter than the driven slush.
A number of regular members think we should wait and find out in the press.
A number of regular members want to march to Manchester for a lynching.
A number of other new members think he is whiter than the driven slush.
A number of regular members think we should wait and find out in the press.
A number of regular members want to march to Manchester for a lynching.
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Same poster registering under different usernames to "bring in reinforcements" over a point already made?
IIRC, "Agony Aunts" got shut down completely when this sort of thing began to become common.......
(Mind you , this thread is better than most soap operas).
IIRC, "Agony Aunts" got shut down completely when this sort of thing began to become common.......
(Mind you , this thread is better than most soap operas).
BRL:
You are a moderator.
You are telling us that a whole bunch of new posters have the same I.P. address.
Is this not illegal under the pprune rules?
Are we not, in the meantime, entitled to know which "callsigns" share the same I.P. address so that we might make a valued decision as to exactly who is doing what unto whom and for why?
You are a moderator.
You are telling us that a whole bunch of new posters have the same I.P. address.
Is this not illegal under the pprune rules?
Are we not, in the meantime, entitled to know which "callsigns" share the same I.P. address so that we might make a valued decision as to exactly who is doing what unto whom and for why?
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I'm not a long standing member, I just joined because I recently took up flying and general quality of help and info on this site looks really good.
This did actually seem like a really strange topic. For what its worth, being a probationary member, I think JW411 has a very valid point - its looks like the same person has a personal vendetta against this guy.
Anyway, I'll no longer post on this topic, I'm going to get busy with the hundred odd other questions I have about my new found hobby, which is why I joined in the first place - not sure how or why I allowed myself to be dragged into this !
Have fun.
Bye !
This did actually seem like a really strange topic. For what its worth, being a probationary member, I think JW411 has a very valid point - its looks like the same person has a personal vendetta against this guy.
Anyway, I'll no longer post on this topic, I'm going to get busy with the hundred odd other questions I have about my new found hobby, which is why I joined in the first place - not sure how or why I allowed myself to be dragged into this !
Have fun.
Bye !
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This thread is brilliant. It just gets more and more bizarre, and now that the schizophrenics seem to be coming on board it's almost surreal. Imagine a dinner party with these guys - four seats at the table - 10 personalities.
PS I agree with everything Fg Off Max Stout has said. What an upstanding, intellectual, valuable poster he is.
Also, if you fancy a good laugh checkout Skyhawk Pilot's other posts. For a new pprunner with only four posts to his name so far, he has expertly managed to combine aggression, idiocy, geekiness and waltism into his posts. 276 DFCs on Flight Sim! swing wing jet biplanes! Proof that care in the community doesn't work.
Nurse -straight jacket and horse tranqs - quickly!
PS I agree with everything Fg Off Max Stout has said. What an upstanding, intellectual, valuable poster he is.
Also, if you fancy a good laugh checkout Skyhawk Pilot's other posts. For a new pprunner with only four posts to his name so far, he has expertly managed to combine aggression, idiocy, geekiness and waltism into his posts. 276 DFCs on Flight Sim! swing wing jet biplanes! Proof that care in the community doesn't work.
Nurse -straight jacket and horse tranqs - quickly!
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Stout...
They're all mad you know...quite mad...
We feel we need to write a poem to you...
Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
I'm schitzophrenic,
And so am I...
Ha-ha...give me another of those horse pills...neigh...give me two...
They're all mad you know...quite mad...
We feel we need to write a poem to you...
Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
I'm schitzophrenic,
And so am I...
Ha-ha...give me another of those horse pills...neigh...give me two...
