Gyroplane question.
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I would give them a ring & ask. I cannot find any reference to rotary (H or G) differences / ratings. I believe you can now do seaplane on a NPPL which was not possible a year ago, so may be worth asking.
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Gyroplane PPL
Training can be carried out by any CAA authorised Gyroplane Instructor, the qualification required to fly is the Private Pilots Licence (Gyroplanes), or PPL(G). The precise requirements for this vary according to your qualifications when you start, but can be summarised as:
Ab-initio (no previous licence held):
40 hours training under instruction. Of this approximately half will be flown with your instructor on board, and half flown solo. You will take a set of straightforward written exams.
Holders of fixed-wing or microlight PPLs:
Training requirements are reduced to 30 hours. Requirements for written exams are waived, other than the Aircraft Technical examination.
Full details of the PPL(G) requirements can be found in the CAA's LASORS publication.
Medical requirements are pretty straightforward. You will need a form signed by your GP declaring that you meet the same standards that the DVLA apply to professional drivers. You can pick up a copy of the form here.
Ab-initio (no previous licence held):
40 hours training under instruction. Of this approximately half will be flown with your instructor on board, and half flown solo. You will take a set of straightforward written exams.
Holders of fixed-wing or microlight PPLs:
Training requirements are reduced to 30 hours. Requirements for written exams are waived, other than the Aircraft Technical examination.
Full details of the PPL(G) requirements can be found in the CAA's LASORS publication.
Medical requirements are pretty straightforward. You will need a form signed by your GP declaring that you meet the same standards that the DVLA apply to professional drivers. You can pick up a copy of the form here.
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No, there are PPL(G), UK CPL(H&G) and UK ATPL(H&G). The latter two are no longer issued, and JAR-FCL equivalents do not have Gyroplane privileges.
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No, there are PPL(G), UK CPL(H&G) and UK ATPL(H&G). The latter two are no longer issued, and JAR-FCL equivalents do not have Gyroplane privileges.
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Ooh, no, I don't think so.
This might be a case of licences at dawn.... ten paces... draw!
(Actually, they probably no longer allow an initial issue but do allow renewals).
This might be a case of licences at dawn.... ten paces... draw!
(Actually, they probably no longer allow an initial issue but do allow renewals).
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Gyroplanes are a part of the CAA's Safety Plan 2008
SRG Safety Plan 2008 Update: SRG Safety Plan 2008 Update | Publications | CAA
Licensing developments seems to be mainly of interest to instructors and examiners, but the preparation of a Standards Document (44) might be one for all those interested to watch out for.
SRG Safety Plan 2008 Update: SRG Safety Plan 2008 Update | Publications | CAA
Licensing developments seems to be mainly of interest to instructors and examiners, but the preparation of a Standards Document (44) might be one for all those interested to watch out for.
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PPL(G)
The PPL(G) may become an NPPL(G) at some point, but it probably won't amount to much more than a change in the name. As there is no ICAO standard for Gyroplane licencing the PPL(G) is a UK-specific qualification.
As it is the PPL(G) uses the NPPL medical and the exams are the NPPL(M) ones with the exception of aircraft technical, and Air Law which has a couple of gyro-specific questions.
As it is the PPL(G) uses the NPPL medical and the exams are the NPPL(M) ones with the exception of aircraft technical, and Air Law which has a couple of gyro-specific questions.
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Is your chosen weapon semantics eh, ShyT?
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All I need is a suitable aircraft..... That Fairey Rotodyne looks like a fine machine, I can't wait for them to come into service, cough...
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I think the "semantics" here involve the words "issue" versus "renewal". To me (and probably the person who originally made the point!), the words "issue" and "renewal" do not mean the same thing!! 
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From: South Norfolk, England
No, you could not fly for hire and reward except in very limited circumstances - as a flying instructor for example. Otherwise at least a CPL would be required - same as for aeroplanes and helicopters.
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As I pointed out / agreed in my post #10... What's the issue here? I merely asked a question in all innocence and somehow got berated for it.
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I was going to say "a licentious issue" .... but of course I would never post such a thing.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info.
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From: Wiltshire
Gyro CPL
There's no Gyro CPL in the UK because no-one has made a serious request for one. If you have a reason for wanting a CPL(G), and an aircraft on which you can exploit it (ie a gyro with a CofA or a Permit plus exemption for aerial work) then you'd need to work with the CAA on developing a set of requirements.
The CAA are aware that this may be needed at some point in the future.
The CAA are aware that this may be needed at some point in the future.
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GyroSteve,
Presumably I only need a type rating, as I already hold an ATPL(G)? This is a hypothetical question as I don't need to use that part of my licence.
Has anyone in UK done this in recent years, I wonder?
Presumably I only need a type rating, as I already hold an ATPL(G)? This is a hypothetical question as I don't need to use that part of my licence.
Has anyone in UK done this in recent years, I wonder?