Gyroplane question.

[GyroSteve]

ATPL(G)

Sorry, don't know. That's one for the CAA!

[Helinut]

In the UK I suspect that there are no gyroplanes registered that are permitted to be used for aerial work (other than instruction) or commercial air transport. So even if you could get a licence, there is not a suitable gyro to fly. Most are self-build and there is only one type currently manufactured that can be flown under the UK system (MT-03).

In practice, UK Gyros get a permit to fly and NOT a C of A.

Re: Shy T's (hypothetical) question, I believe that the practical requirement is a significantly abridged flying course (20 hrs?) (when compared to an ab-initio) and only P of F theory. Not 100% sure, but I think you actually get a UK PPL(G) rather than a usable ATPL(G)

[SNS3Guppy]

In the US the gyro class rating has to be held at the commercial level before one can apply and test for instructor privileges in the same.

[ShyTorque]

Ozymandias,

So 10 hrs instruction including flight test hrs and 10 hrs PIC would be required. Thanks for that.

[ShyTorque]

No, I wouldn't ever take anything posted here as the authoritive statement although the info in LASORS you linked to seems to be clear enough. I wouldn't want to operate autogyros commercially, just fly for recreation in my dotage, btw.

Thanks again.

[Flag Track]

PPL(G) eyesight requirements.

Many thanks for the replies. I don't meet the eyesight standard for professional driver NPPL-wise, but I understand PPL limits go to -8 dioptres, so to take a passenger other than a safety pilot, I would have to pass a class 2 PPL medical methinks? Any opinions/suggestions gratefully received!

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[LH2]

An ATPL(G) must be quite an achievement. Can you imagine yourself claiming 500hr on a multicrew gyroplane, 100hr instrument, 100 night, etc.?

Not to mention a Balloon ATPL.

[ShyTorque]

If we had some practical autogyros it would be no big thing though.

I don't know why the CAA previously lumped everything rotary winged together, but they did! I've never flown an autogyro in my life but I'm very aware that there are some important differences in handling techniques.

[MartinCh]

Chuck > If you want a Commercial Gyroplane Pilots License you can get one in the U.S.A..

Well, FAA system is touch different. Especially as one should have CPL of whatever kind to instruct, right? AFAIK, there's also CPL for gliders. Not very high requirements but some TT hours of which quite a few could be from powered airplanes. I forgot the exact hours. CFR..

LH2, you just made me laugh. Yeah, if one clings to allegedly already issued JAA ATPL - guess for heli pilots who got this 'freebie' from CAA, ehm, I can't see where you'd stick passengers if flying multicrew on current gyros. The letters A and T wouldn't really make sense in this context for ATPL gyros holders.

ShyT, well, at least you won't have to 'slam the collective' when the engine quits. I only flew Robbies, but I'll do some fun flying in gyros given time, cash and opportunity in the future.

That school in Kent states on its website that they need £5k cash deposit before flying solo. That's on top of 340 quid insurance. Yeah, due to paperwork, they also mention the only allow solo flight to pilots in the training. Guess something to do with rental as commercial activity etc.
There are some places in Spain one could fly gyro around. Where else if not in the country of its origin. My idea of nice holidays if not flying other kind of aircraft