Tempelhof - advice needed
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Tempelhof - advice needed
Hi all - been lurking awhile, but this is my first post.
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but I am planning to fly from my home base in Prague to Tempehof EDDI next month, and would appreciate any guidance you good folks could give. I tried calling the airport - not much luck, and the website is not the best. For info I inend to fly VFR via the low level airways. In particular, can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of their VFR arrivals chart? Is there restricted opening for GA?
All assistance gratefully received. In return I am more than happy to share my experience of flying in the beautiful Czech Republic for anyone planning a visit.
Cheers.
Apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but I am planning to fly from my home base in Prague to Tempehof EDDI next month, and would appreciate any guidance you good folks could give. I tried calling the airport - not much luck, and the website is not the best. For info I inend to fly VFR via the low level airways. In particular, can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of their VFR arrivals chart? Is there restricted opening for GA?
All assistance gratefully received. In return I am more than happy to share my experience of flying in the beautiful Czech Republic for anyone planning a visit.
Cheers.
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We flew from UK VFR last month and came in from the west. It was difficult getting the VFR approach info but ATC were very welcoming. We talked to Bremen Info til near potsdam and then Tempelhof. The VFR route in we used was along the Teltow canal via Whiskey 1 and Whiskey 2 reporting points. These are very easy to identify VFR and the canal easy to follow in. This took us straight into a downwind join for 27L. We then had a follow me bus and someone who drove us to the terminal. Very helpful.
I couldnt find coordinates for the VRP but they are actually easy to find from the air and W2 is a set of towers that you see easily as you go up the canal.
I cant remember where we got the chart from. I think it was sent as part of the fly in. A friend helped with Jeppeson plates for the airfield.
I dont know where you usually fly but I found this less stressful an experience than many smaller airfields I have flown into. There is nothing like flying over Berlin, joining for this airfield and following in the path of all those DC3s from the airlift.
I couldnt find coordinates for the VRP but they are actually easy to find from the air and W2 is a set of towers that you see easily as you go up the canal.
I cant remember where we got the chart from. I think it was sent as part of the fly in. A friend helped with Jeppeson plates for the airfield.
I dont know where you usually fly but I found this less stressful an experience than many smaller airfields I have flown into. There is nothing like flying over Berlin, joining for this airfield and following in the path of all those DC3s from the airlift.
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Try http://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/eadcm...&Itemid=3.html
You will have to reister, 'Free' and it will gve you access to all the aerodrome information for Europe.
Good luck, Tepelhof is definately a good place to visit.
You will have to reister, 'Free' and it will gve you access to all the aerodrome information for Europe.
Good luck, Tepelhof is definately a good place to visit.
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Tempelhof... what a place! Full of history. The terminal building itself is a listed monument - and was for many years (before the Pentagon was built) the world's largest building by volume.
Vectoring to the ILS27L is brilliant, going past Schonefeld (SXF). Feels good to be the largest aircraft routinely operating there!
The airport is quite literally in the middle of the city. It's quite distinctive with its curved apron and massive terminal. ATIS is 126.05, TWR is 119.57, GND 121.95. Runways are 2094m (27R) and 1840m (27L). 27L/09R seems to be the preferential runway. The "visiting" GA apron is depicted on the airport chart as stands 27, 28, 29. Whatever you do, don't park on stand 1A - that's ours!
Cheers
Vectoring to the ILS27L is brilliant, going past Schonefeld (SXF). Feels good to be the largest aircraft routinely operating there!
The airport is quite literally in the middle of the city. It's quite distinctive with its curved apron and massive terminal. ATIS is 126.05, TWR is 119.57, GND 121.95. Runways are 2094m (27R) and 1840m (27L). 27L/09R seems to be the preferential runway. The "visiting" GA apron is depicted on the airport chart as stands 27, 28, 29. Whatever you do, don't park on stand 1A - that's ours!
Cheers
Last edited by FougaMagister; 17th June 2008 at 20:06.
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Unfortunately visual apporach charts for Germany are not on the EAD site.
However, you can buy the one-off Jeppesen trip kit for about £35.
I'm making this trip in July (stopping first at Cologne/Bonn) and looking forward to it immensely.
However, you can buy the one-off Jeppesen trip kit for about £35.
I'm making this trip in July (stopping first at Cologne/Bonn) and looking forward to it immensely.
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From: LONDON
Try the German AIS website at:
www.dfs-ais.de/pilotservice/index.html
I think they may do VFR plates.
Or call Transair and purchase a Bottlang VFR 'trip kit' for Germany. It's incredibly useful and has all the VFR plates and lots of other stuff
www.dfs-ais.de/pilotservice/index.html
I think they may do VFR plates.
Or call Transair and purchase a Bottlang VFR 'trip kit' for Germany. It's incredibly useful and has all the VFR plates and lots of other stuff
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Many thanks
All
Many thanks for the suggestions - I will try to get the Jepp trip kit. I spoke to my local stockist, who didn't have much of a clue. Maybe my Czech isn't as good as I thought!
Really looking forward to the trip though...
Many thanks for the suggestions - I will try to get the Jepp trip kit. I spoke to my local stockist, who didn't have much of a clue. Maybe my Czech isn't as good as I thought!
Really looking forward to the trip though...
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From: LONDON
There's a good German aviation mail order supplies company with all the charts and kit you could want at:
www.friebe.aero
They have an English language link. Some Hungarian pilot friends of mine use this company for all their VFR charts and 'travel kits'
I'm flying to Tempelhof myself next week on the way back to the UK from Gotland in Sweden . . . . just to get this great airport in my logbook before they close it !
www.friebe.aero
They have an English language link. Some Hungarian pilot friends of mine use this company for all their VFR charts and 'travel kits'
I'm flying to Tempelhof myself next week on the way back to the UK from Gotland in Sweden . . . . just to get this great airport in my logbook before they close it !
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Seeing that the left-wing Berlin mayor and city government don't realise what kind of a mistake is about to be made with the closure of Tempelhof Airport, perhaps a wake-up call from the rest of the world will help bring about some sense and enlightenment to them.
With that having been said, there is an ongoing Petition urging the authorities in Berlin, the German Federation and the Central Government to maintain Berlin-Tempelhof Airport as a functioning, unique, cultural historical monument and to promote the inclusion of the Airport with the UNESCO World Heritage Committee.
Any- and everyone can sign the Petition (not only German citizens) - It only takes about a minute to fill out, so if anybody else here also feels that this is a worthy cause and would like to sign, here is the direct link to the website:
http://www.rescue-tempelhof.org/cgi-bin/entry_en.pl (english)
Thanks!
With that having been said, there is an ongoing Petition urging the authorities in Berlin, the German Federation and the Central Government to maintain Berlin-Tempelhof Airport as a functioning, unique, cultural historical monument and to promote the inclusion of the Airport with the UNESCO World Heritage Committee.
Any- and everyone can sign the Petition (not only German citizens) - It only takes about a minute to fill out, so if anybody else here also feels that this is a worthy cause and would like to sign, here is the direct link to the website:
http://www.rescue-tempelhof.org/cgi-bin/entry_en.pl (english)
Thanks!
Last edited by Asrian; 20th June 2008 at 21:25. Reason: sp
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It only takes about a minute to fill out, so if anybody else here also feels that this is a worthy cause and would like to sign, here is the direct link to the website:
I have just signed up and I'm sure lots of other PPRuNers will as well !
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Just back from a trip to the Czech Republic and having done Tempelhof only last week I can confirm that it is all very easy.
Have a look at the Flyer Forums, as someone said you can find a wealth of information about the planning we did. THere are some links on there with the information about the approach and departure routes.
If you get the Jeppesen chart the various reporting points are marked on there too.
Landing, handling, nav charges and parking for 4 nights was less than €100 for the Maule, not bad I thought for an international airport and the associated services. The Follow Me van will pick you and your luggage up and take you to the terminal.
If you are into history you can do worse than take a guided tour. I thought it was rather interesting.
Berlin itself is a beautiful city, vibrant and exciting.
I would go back in a heartbeat.
Have fun, and if you have any specific questions feel free to ask them!
Have a look at the Flyer Forums, as someone said you can find a wealth of information about the planning we did. THere are some links on there with the information about the approach and departure routes.
If you get the Jeppesen chart the various reporting points are marked on there too.
Landing, handling, nav charges and parking for 4 nights was less than €100 for the Maule, not bad I thought for an international airport and the associated services. The Follow Me van will pick you and your luggage up and take you to the terminal.
If you are into history you can do worse than take a guided tour. I thought it was rather interesting.
Berlin itself is a beautiful city, vibrant and exciting.
I would go back in a heartbeat.
Have fun, and if you have any specific questions feel free to ask them!
