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Been loads of times. £114 all in for a Seneca or the Malibu. Thats handling the works. Tried Glenrothes etc and by the time I had paid Taxi fees, landing fees, train fees etc Edinburgh still worked out cheaper and faster.
Sometimes people look for the most convoluted route to save a couple of quid and it costs them more.....
Sometimes people look for the most convoluted route to save a couple of quid and it costs them more.....
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Many thanks for that, Bose X, very helpful.
I also agree that after mucking about with trains / taxi etc it is quicker and probably no more expensive to just pay up and shut up! Didnt ask what the fuel cost was there, but as per another thread, we really dont get much of a say in where we fill up sometimes! TheHangar.co.uk gives 1.49, early March, guess it's more now...
This fee plus the 9 or 10gph ish for my fan at the front to cool the pilot, I should still be better off (even ignoring the challenge / fun), than taking a Flybe!
Thanks again.
I also agree that after mucking about with trains / taxi etc it is quicker and probably no more expensive to just pay up and shut up! Didnt ask what the fuel cost was there, but as per another thread, we really dont get much of a say in where we fill up sometimes! TheHangar.co.uk gives 1.49, early March, guess it's more now...
This fee plus the 9 or 10gph ish for my fan at the front to cool the pilot, I should still be better off (even ignoring the challenge / fun), than taking a Flybe!
Thanks again.
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Dicky5: probably in the region of £120 for a SEPL overnight.
There is a flying club, but no concessions available on landing fees etc I'm afraid.
NS
There is a flying club, but no concessions available on landing fees etc I'm afraid.
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For info, I also emailed Greer Aviation late last night.
Got a very helpful reply first thing this morning:
Landing :- £36.00
Nav fee :- £10.00
Parking :- £0.49 per hour
Handling :- £44.00
Very impressed by the fast reply, received from
Brian McLean.
Greer Aviation Ltd.
[email protected]
www.greeraviation.com
Got a very helpful reply first thing this morning:
Landing :- £36.00
Nav fee :- £10.00
Parking :- £0.49 per hour
Handling :- £44.00
Very impressed by the fast reply, received from
Brian McLean.
Greer Aviation Ltd.
[email protected]
www.greeraviation.com
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But not, I trust, by the numbers it contained.
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Cost me £90 handling (landing, nav fee, handling charges) and 1 nights parking, then £40 in a taxi down to the hotel in the Royal Mile. Plus about 130 litres of Avgas.
Next time I'll take EasyJet and the bus
Next time I'll take EasyJet and the bus
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"Why not? Seems reasonable for a busy airport with all the facilities. Or were you expecting it be a fiver because you are in a spam can and why should you pay?"
I cannot believe there is someone out there who thinks that >£100 to visit in a SEP is "reasonable", whether you are landing at a major international airport or a farm strip.
What are these "facilities" you speak of?
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I cannot believe there is someone out there who thinks that >£100 to visit in a SEP is "reasonable", whether you are landing at a major international airport or a farm strip.
What are these "facilities" you speak of?
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"Why not? Seems reasonable for a busy airport with all the facilities. Or were you expecting it be a fiver because you are in a spam can and why should you pay?"
I cannot believe there is someone out there who thinks that >£100 to visit in a SEP is "reasonable", whether you are landing at a major international airport or a farm strip.
What are these "facilities" you speak of?
Smithy
I cannot believe there is someone out there who thinks that >£100 to visit in a SEP is "reasonable", whether you are landing at a major international airport or a farm strip.
What are these "facilities" you speak of?
Smithy
Why should you be any different if you visit in an SEP or an A320? You use the same facilities (and for longer due to lower speed).
It beggers belief at times.......
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ILS, lights hard runway, air trafic services. full all weather airfield, handling services etc.
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Fair point Bose-X, you are correct there, but I'd argue that VFR light singles don't require ILS, nor do they require "handling". Anyway, just my opinion...
Incidentally, ATC at Edinburgh are excellent.
englishal: So did you also get the little van to drive you the couple of hundred yards to the building?
Smithy
Incidentally, ATC at Edinburgh are excellent.
englishal: So did you also get the little van to drive you the couple of hundred yards to the building?
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Fair point Bose-X, you are correct there, but I'd argue that VFR light singles don't require ILS, nor do they require "handling". Anyway, just my opinion...
Incidentally, ATC at Edinburgh are excellent.
englishal: So did you also get the little van to drive you the couple of hundred yards to the building?
Smithy
Incidentally, ATC at Edinburgh are excellent.
englishal: So did you also get the little van to drive you the couple of hundred yards to the building?
Smithy
As far as the handling is concerned,, if you don't ask you don't get. I get driven into town by them. Just as when I fly to Birmingham I get driven to the NEC. If I pay for a service I expect to get it. I also get my flight plans flied by them, weather reports etc.
I expect to pay paid handsomely for the work that I do and expect in a capitalist world that others also expect paying........
Amazing, what people consider reasonable. Try flying to, say, Sacramento - which as state capital of California certainly justifies comparison to EDI. Landing fees, $0, nav fees (huh?) $0, parking, $0, handling $0. The FBO there seems to stay in business so I guess they must make money, which comes from the profit on fuel. But you don't have to buy any if you don't want to. US pilots complain bitterly about FBOs that charge you, say, $20, waived if you buy fuel.
The above is true pretty much anywhere. SFO will cost you quite a bit, around $300 currently I believe, in other words a little more than EDI. But the last time I went into LAX in my 182, it was $40 for handling and no other charges. No 100LL though, and I think my plane, hidden away behind the hangar, was the only piston plane on the airport for the whole day.
Of course Europe is vastly more expensive and there's nothing to be done about it, but that doesn't make it *reasonable*!
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The above is true pretty much anywhere. SFO will cost you quite a bit, around $300 currently I believe, in other words a little more than EDI. But the last time I went into LAX in my 182, it was $40 for handling and no other charges. No 100LL though, and I think my plane, hidden away behind the hangar, was the only piston plane on the airport for the whole day.
Of course Europe is vastly more expensive and there's nothing to be done about it, but that doesn't make it *reasonable*!
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American airports are funded by the FAA and local government. UK airports are private business. They have to charge to be able to operate the business and return to shareholders. It is that simple.
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Flying to Edinburgh
I want to use Kirknewton (in spite of the stones) in a PA28. I have applied to HQAC for permission. Does anyone know if avgas is available there? Any other advice will be welcome.
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excuse my mind-blank, but what is the "nav fee" actually paying for??
and as for the handling charges, what services do they provide for the £55?
would most major airports offer this service?
and as for the handling charges, what services do they provide for the £55?
I get driven into town by them.
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17thhour:
Controllers' salaries - NATS bills the airport for every movement handled.
Invoice preparation
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what is the "nav fee" actually paying for??
what services do they provide for the £55?
NS
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I just found this thread and thought that I would add that a few weeks ago whilst taxying out at EDI I overheard a disscussion between what looked like a PA-28 and ATC.
The PA-28 was sitting about half way up 12/30 waiting to go the GAT, and there was another light aircraft waiting to get out to fly.
The PA-28 was a visitor and had booked through Signature and was self handling ( what ever that means ).
What happened next beggered belief ( and this was not the fault of EDI ATC - for once
- as they just pass on the message from Blood Awful Airports ).
ATC : " The airport authority say that the GAT is full and have asked you to leave"
PA-28 : " I have booked in with Signature and they said it was fine "
ATC : " I ll get back to you "
ATC : " Nope, full up you are asked to leave"
PA-28 : " I was going to be staying for a couple of days "
ATC : " Sorry you have to leave"
PA-28 : " Well I do have a pregnant lady on board who needs the loo and I also need fuel "
I had to leave at this point so I don't know how it turned out, but I have been around EDI airport for over a decade now, and GA is just not welcome, they have made that clear.
On a Saturday if the weather is nice and ATC have tower doing ground as well you can hear the irritation in soem controllers voice when PPLs want in and out of the zone or the airfield, its just very busy.
However if you do go to Fife, I would advise you to hangar the aircraft ( I believ there is plenty available ), The airfield is NOT secure and aircraft and cars have been vandalised badly there if left outside in the past. Hangarage is fine though. I do believe Cumbernauld is at least surrounded by a big fence. Glenrothes is not.
The PA-28 was sitting about half way up 12/30 waiting to go the GAT, and there was another light aircraft waiting to get out to fly.
The PA-28 was a visitor and had booked through Signature and was self handling ( what ever that means ).
What happened next beggered belief ( and this was not the fault of EDI ATC - for once
- as they just pass on the message from Blood Awful Airports ).ATC : " The airport authority say that the GAT is full and have asked you to leave"
PA-28 : " I have booked in with Signature and they said it was fine "
ATC : " I ll get back to you "
ATC : " Nope, full up you are asked to leave"
PA-28 : " I was going to be staying for a couple of days "
ATC : " Sorry you have to leave"
PA-28 : " Well I do have a pregnant lady on board who needs the loo and I also need fuel "
I had to leave at this point so I don't know how it turned out, but I have been around EDI airport for over a decade now, and GA is just not welcome, they have made that clear.
On a Saturday if the weather is nice and ATC have tower doing ground as well you can hear the irritation in soem controllers voice when PPLs want in and out of the zone or the airfield, its just very busy.
However if you do go to Fife, I would advise you to hangar the aircraft ( I believ there is plenty available ), The airfield is NOT secure and aircraft and cars have been vandalised badly there if left outside in the past. Hangarage is fine though. I do believe Cumbernauld is at least surrounded by a big fence. Glenrothes is not.