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Flying to Edinburgh
I'm planning a flight to Edinburgh in the not too distant future, and I was wondering if there are any smaller airfields to land at with reasonable landing fees.
I don't really want to have to pay the expensive landing fee at Edinburgh airport.
I don't really want to have to pay the expensive landing fee at Edinburgh airport.
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Think you may struggle to get into Kirknewton at weekends. Something tells me it is in the hands of the glider school then but please check as I'm not 100%.
Certainly CBN is very close by and much cheaper. Train station as said above is very close.
Certainly CBN is very close by and much cheaper. Train station as said above is very close.
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Cumbernauld is not close to Edinburgh, it's about 30 miles by road. The nearest rail station to Cumbernauld airport which has service to Edinburgh is Croy which is 3.5 miles away and trains from there to Edinburgh are not frequent - around once an hour.
Last time I checked, Kirknewton was not accepting any visiting aircraft and the based civvies were only allowed to fly when the gliders weren't active.
Fife (EGPJ) is the best option. Phone them on 01592 753792 for details. Transport to Edinburgh not brilliant but you can get a taxi from the airport to either Markinch or Thornton station from where there are trains about every half hour to Edinburgh (journey time about 45 mins).
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Certainly CBN is very close by and much cheaper. Train station as said above is very close
Last time I checked, Kirknewton was not accepting any visiting aircraft and the based civvies were only allowed to fly when the gliders weren't active.
Fife (EGPJ) is the best option. Phone them on 01592 753792 for details. Transport to Edinburgh not brilliant but you can get a taxi from the airport to either Markinch or Thornton station from where there are trains about every half hour to Edinburgh (journey time about 45 mins).
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with ref to Kirknewton -
NAVW: Q)EGPX/QWGXX/IV/M/W/000/020/5552N00324W005
FROM 07/07/13 08:42 TO PERM U1580/07
E)ALL PILOTS ARE REMINDED THAT ROYAL AIR FORCE KIRKNEWTON, 5 NM SOUTH OF EDINBURGH PSN 5552.27N 00324.05W IS STRICTLY PPR AT ALL TIMES.
PPR CAN ONLY BE OBTAINED FROM HEADQUATERS AIR CADETS, ROYAL AIR FORCE
CRANWELL, SLEAFORD, LINCS, NG34 8HB.
CONTACT NUMBER 01400267612 OR MOBILE 07771 942452.
F)SFC G)2000FT AGL
NAVW: Q)EGPX/QWGXX/IV/M/W/000/020/5552N00324W005
FROM 07/07/13 08:42 TO PERM U1580/07
E)ALL PILOTS ARE REMINDED THAT ROYAL AIR FORCE KIRKNEWTON, 5 NM SOUTH OF EDINBURGH PSN 5552.27N 00324.05W IS STRICTLY PPR AT ALL TIMES.
PPR CAN ONLY BE OBTAINED FROM HEADQUATERS AIR CADETS, ROYAL AIR FORCE
CRANWELL, SLEAFORD, LINCS, NG34 8HB.
CONTACT NUMBER 01400267612 OR MOBILE 07771 942452.
F)SFC G)2000FT AGL
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I'm not sure how much closer you expect a train station to be to a small GA airfield, I would say 3 miles is pretty close.
Again I'm not sure why you chose to contradict everything I said but looking at the Scotrail timetable I note that trains from Croy to Central Edinburgh are every half hour from 7am till 8pm. Journey time 40 mins.
I also note that the Croy -Edinburgh train stops at 3 stations on the way. The last time I was unfortunate enough to take a train from Edinburgh to Fife I seem to remember around 10 stops.
Whilst neither has any published approaches, although there is an unofficial one at CBN using their NDB and DME, anyone flying to CBN in poorish Wx can fly the EDI ILS to break cloud for CBN. Have done it many times with no problem from EDI ATC whatsoever. Mind you this is probably possible at Fife too.
If you are in a heavy a/c CBN is around 150m longer. I go there in either an Arrow or Baron. With a few mates on board, with luggage, especially in summer I find that extra length reasuring.
I and several friends of mine regularly visit Edinburgh. Having weighed all the options up we opt to use Cumbernauld for all the above reasons.
I hope this satisfies you Northsouth. You seem terribly offended by my advice which was offered in the spirit of goodwill, and backed with a fair amount of flying up here. Your statement about Fife being the best option is very closed, perhaps you have shares there!!
I'm not sure how much closer you expect a train station to be to a small GA airfield, I would say 3 miles is pretty close.
Again I'm not sure why you chose to contradict everything I said but looking at the Scotrail timetable I note that trains from Croy to Central Edinburgh are every half hour from 7am till 8pm. Journey time 40 mins.
I also note that the Croy -Edinburgh train stops at 3 stations on the way. The last time I was unfortunate enough to take a train from Edinburgh to Fife I seem to remember around 10 stops.
Whilst neither has any published approaches, although there is an unofficial one at CBN using their NDB and DME, anyone flying to CBN in poorish Wx can fly the EDI ILS to break cloud for CBN. Have done it many times with no problem from EDI ATC whatsoever. Mind you this is probably possible at Fife too.
If you are in a heavy a/c CBN is around 150m longer. I go there in either an Arrow or Baron. With a few mates on board, with luggage, especially in summer I find that extra length reasuring.
I and several friends of mine regularly visit Edinburgh. Having weighed all the options up we opt to use Cumbernauld for all the above reasons.
I hope this satisfies you Northsouth. You seem terribly offended by my advice which was offered in the spirit of goodwill, and backed with a fair amount of flying up here. Your statement about Fife being the best option is very closed, perhaps you have shares there!!
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I think Mr Mounce has enough information to makeup his own mind. I checked on the map to see how far Glenrothes (Fife) was from Edinburgh.
Glenrothes does have a fine restaurant,the Tipsy Nipper and sadly Cumbernauld has only a cafe. Quite a good one, however. Both airfields will give you a friendly welcome. Kenny at Cumbernauld may be in a good mood if his team gets a result in Mancunia this week.
Glenrothes does have a fine restaurant,the Tipsy Nipper and sadly Cumbernauld has only a cafe. Quite a good one, however. Both airfields will give you a friendly welcome. Kenny at Cumbernauld may be in a good mood if his team gets a result in Mancunia this week.
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What do you fly ?
Depends on what you fly as to what options you have, Kirknewton is Strictly PPR and whilst it used to be fairly GA friendly, now it seems anti GA (other than based GA)
But certainly worth trying contacting Cranwell to see if Permission is available (weekends are a 'no-no' though) THE RUNWAY THERE IS RATHER STONY & PROP DAMAGE IS A GAMBLE !!!
The Train Station of Kirknewton is about 1 mile away and easy walk, but in the village (0.5mile) you can also get the No 28 Bus straight into Edinburgh for £2.50
There are other nearby options if for example you were flying a microlight.
But certainly worth trying contacting Cranwell to see if Permission is available (weekends are a 'no-no' though) THE RUNWAY THERE IS RATHER STONY & PROP DAMAGE IS A GAMBLE !!!
The Train Station of Kirknewton is about 1 mile away and easy walk, but in the village (0.5mile) you can also get the No 28 Bus straight into Edinburgh for £2.50
There are other nearby options if for example you were flying a microlight.
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silverknapper:
No, not offended. Just thought "very close" might be misinterpreted. I see now that you meant "reachable by taxi" rather than walkable.
Coming back to the main point, it's very sad that the capital city of Scotland remains so inaccessible to GA aircraft.
NS
You seem terribly offended by my advice
Coming back to the main point, it's very sad that the capital city of Scotland remains so inaccessible to GA aircraft.
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Cumbernauld Edinburgh 1 hour
Easy to get to Edinburgh from Cumbernauld. Done it many times. No more than 1 hour on the dot from to Edinburgh Waverley. The train runs 42 and 12 min past the hour on weekends and a cheap day return ticket is 9.60. Never crowded unless rugy or the famous two have a game in Glasgow
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At the moment I'm flying a PA-38, but I'm about to move away so will either go back to the PA-28, or maybe start flying a robin.
What are the landing fees like at these places?
What are the landing fees like at these places?
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East Fortune is a microlight strip. The long runway to the east of the microlight strip is usually out of bounds. It has car boot sales at the weekend. Someone feel free to correct if this is not up to date.
Fife and Cumbernauld will charge you about a tenner, possibly a little more if you are staying overnight.
Fife will discount a meal at the Tipsy Nipper if you uplift fuel, or at least they used to.
Cumbernauld is your best bet if you are coming from down south.
Fife and Cumbernauld will charge you about a tenner, possibly a little more if you are staying overnight.
Fife will discount a meal at the Tipsy Nipper if you uplift fuel, or at least they used to.
Cumbernauld is your best bet if you are coming from down south.
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The (grass) runways at East Fortune are rather short... might want to polish your short-field skills first! As far as I am aware PPR is absolutely essential, not sure if they'll welcome a Group A aircraft or what sort of fees they'll charge.
What is the parking/handling at EDI these days anyway? Last I heard it was in the region of £85 for one night... that was a few years ago. Landing fee is currently £25.
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What is the parking/handling at EDI these days anyway? Last I heard it was in the region of £85 for one night... that was a few years ago. Landing fee is currently £25.
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That was my main concern, the big handling/parking fee.
It's a long trip for me, so i'll probably leave it until I need to do some serious hour building. I was just looking for other options if I do fly myself up there.
It's a long trip for me, so i'll probably leave it until I need to do some serious hour building. I was just looking for other options if I do fly myself up there.
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I also have a need to get to Edinburgh from "down south" end of June, the Flybe total quote comes to £720 total for self, wife + toddler, so my PA28 preferred!
Does anybody actually know how much it is to land and stay overnight, meaning in the last few months please? My Pooleys says BAA rates, whatever they are!
Secondly, is there a flying club where one can avoid handling charges etc?
Does anybody actually know how much it is to land and stay overnight, meaning in the last few months please? My Pooleys says BAA rates, whatever they are!
Secondly, is there a flying club where one can avoid handling charges etc?