List of UK GA Airfields requiring Hi-viz Jackets (Please land elsewhere)
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List of UK GA Airfields requiring Hi-viz Jackets (Please land elsewhere)
List of UK GA Airfields requiring Hi-viz Jackets (please land elsewhere)
BRL asked for someone to start a thread to list GA airfields for which the H&S wombles require pilots to wear yellow hi-viz jackets. Ken Wells started one a few days ago but as it wasn't a sticky, it seems to have vanished into the wilderness that is "Page 2". Once we have a list, we can go and land somewhere else which doesn't require them UNTIL COMMON SENSE PREVAILS. I'll periodically check and amend the list below.
I don't believe this would put any airfield at risk as I would suggest that owners would be reluctant to do anything which would jeopardise their income - such as appearing on the "PPrune List".
Remember, CAP 642 Airside Safety Management says "should" not "must". If they change CAP 642 to say must, I'll delete the thread and find a farmstrip.
Please use this thread to list those airfields. If you want to comment about the wearing (or not) of yellow jackets, please use the other thread HERE.
Over to you.........
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Alderney
Bournemouth
Cambridge
Carlisle
Cumbernauld
Halfpenny Green (with occasional common sense apparently)
Inverness
Manston
Nottingham - Tollerton
Kemble (again with occasional common sense apparently)
Lands End
Newcastle (Magpies excepted)
Southend
Sywell
Shoreham
.... and courtesy of eharding and the AIP:
EGAE - Londonderry/Eglinton
EGBB - Birmingham
EGBJ - Gloucestershire
EGBN - Nottingham
EGBO - Wolverhampton
EGBP - Kemble
EGCC - Manchester
EGCK - Caernarfon
EGCN - Doncaster
EGFA - West Wales/Aberporth
EGFH - Swansea
EGGP - Liverpool
EGGW - London Luton
EGHH - Bournemouth
EGHO - Thruxton
EGJA - Alderney
EGJB - Guernsey
EGKR - Redhill
EGMH - Manston
EGNH - Blackpool
EGNJ - Humberside
EGNT - Newcastle
EGNV - Durham Tees Valley
EGNX - Nottingham
EGSC - Cambridge
EGSH - Norwich
EGTC - Cranfield
EGTE - Exeter
EGWU - Northolt
EGGD - Bristol
EGHC - Lands End/St Just
EGMC - Southend
EGMD - Lydd
EGNC - Carlisle
EGNO - Warton
EGNR - Hawarden
EGNS - Isle of Man
EGPE - Inverness
EGTG - Bristol Filton
BRL asked for someone to start a thread to list GA airfields for which the H&S wombles require pilots to wear yellow hi-viz jackets. Ken Wells started one a few days ago but as it wasn't a sticky, it seems to have vanished into the wilderness that is "Page 2". Once we have a list, we can go and land somewhere else which doesn't require them UNTIL COMMON SENSE PREVAILS. I'll periodically check and amend the list below.
I don't believe this would put any airfield at risk as I would suggest that owners would be reluctant to do anything which would jeopardise their income - such as appearing on the "PPrune List".
Remember, CAP 642 Airside Safety Management says "should" not "must". If they change CAP 642 to say must, I'll delete the thread and find a farmstrip.
Please use this thread to list those airfields. If you want to comment about the wearing (or not) of yellow jackets, please use the other thread HERE.
Over to you.........
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Alderney
Bournemouth
Cambridge
Carlisle
Cumbernauld
Halfpenny Green (with occasional common sense apparently)
Inverness
Manston
Nottingham - Tollerton
Kemble (again with occasional common sense apparently)
Lands End
Newcastle (Magpies excepted)
Southend
Sywell
Shoreham
.... and courtesy of eharding and the AIP:
EGAE - Londonderry/Eglinton
EGBB - Birmingham
EGBJ - Gloucestershire
EGBN - Nottingham
EGBO - Wolverhampton
EGBP - Kemble
EGCC - Manchester
EGCK - Caernarfon
EGCN - Doncaster
EGFA - West Wales/Aberporth
EGFH - Swansea
EGGP - Liverpool
EGGW - London Luton
EGHH - Bournemouth
EGHO - Thruxton
EGJA - Alderney
EGJB - Guernsey
EGKR - Redhill
EGMH - Manston
EGNH - Blackpool
EGNJ - Humberside
EGNT - Newcastle
EGNV - Durham Tees Valley
EGNX - Nottingham
EGSC - Cambridge
EGSH - Norwich
EGTC - Cranfield
EGTE - Exeter
EGWU - Northolt
EGGD - Bristol
EGHC - Lands End/St Just
EGMC - Southend
EGMD - Lydd
EGNC - Carlisle
EGNO - Warton
EGNR - Hawarden
EGNS - Isle of Man
EGPE - Inverness
EGTG - Bristol Filton
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Inverness
Halfpenny Green (technically, although common sense also applies!)
Lydd
Added info not out of a desire to boycott (I got a free Hivis vest recently anyway, and usually wear Hivis kit when out on the roads ) but to give further info to people landing away, etc.
Although it was funny watching the RAF SAR helo doing a RRRF in Inverness yesterday - crewman in bright orange immersion suit standing next to a bright yellow noisy Sea King while carefully doing up his Hivis vest before it was blown away. Nothing like applying the precise letter of H&S!
Halfpenny Green (technically, although common sense also applies!)
Lydd
Added info not out of a desire to boycott (I got a free Hivis vest recently anyway, and usually wear Hivis kit when out on the roads ) but to give further info to people landing away, etc.
Although it was funny watching the RAF SAR helo doing a RRRF in Inverness yesterday - crewman in bright orange immersion suit standing next to a bright yellow noisy Sea King while carefully doing up his Hivis vest before it was blown away. Nothing like applying the precise letter of H&S!
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Can I assume that in the future after we have boycotted all these places and they become unavailable for GA or housing estates due to not being financially viable we will not be running pages of shock about another airfield closure?
I dislike the damn vest as much as the next man but I wonder if we may be cutting our noses off to spite our faces......
I dislike the damn vest as much as the next man but I wonder if we may be cutting our noses off to spite our faces......
A little less conversation,
a little more aviation...
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I think BRL's evil twin promptly locked the thread that Ken W opened on the same topic, claiming his original request was made in jest. Hilarious.
And another thing - never mind the yellow nylon target designators, its those sodding silent Rotax things that give me the heebie-jeebies - you can't hear the things at the best of times, let alone when some geezer in a tractor is giving it large down at the hold. I vote all Rotax powered aircraft should have a mandatory audible warning played on a 40kW speaker system when taxiing - the audible warning in question being the Benny Hill music. Not only will this add greatly to the safety on many GA airfields, it'll also put a lot of the fun back into flying. Should this measure prove popular, I suggest gliders be similarly mandated to have a smoke system operating at all times when airborne, and all weight-shift microlights be required to carry and operate a hand bell (while the PIC shouts "Unclean" repeatedly) when in the circuit. That should solve more than a few problems..
And another thing - never mind the yellow nylon target designators, its those sodding silent Rotax things that give me the heebie-jeebies - you can't hear the things at the best of times, let alone when some geezer in a tractor is giving it large down at the hold. I vote all Rotax powered aircraft should have a mandatory audible warning played on a 40kW speaker system when taxiing - the audible warning in question being the Benny Hill music. Not only will this add greatly to the safety on many GA airfields, it'll also put a lot of the fun back into flying. Should this measure prove popular, I suggest gliders be similarly mandated to have a smoke system operating at all times when airborne, and all weight-shift microlights be required to carry and operate a hand bell (while the PIC shouts "Unclean" repeatedly) when in the circuit. That should solve more than a few problems..
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I know BRL was kidding but if I don't do this we'll all end up dressed like Borat!
BRL will get back to me later with a b*ll*cking .... I mean, a decision about "stickiness".
BRL will get back to me later with a b*ll*cking .... I mean, a decision about "stickiness".
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What you folks in the UK need is for the FAA to be in charge of such things, then all of this nonsense would be forgotten.
You all have my sincere regrets....sadly, you are stuck with what you have.
You all have my sincere regrets....sadly, you are stuck with what you have.
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eharding, You must be the first person to complain of aircraft being too quiet!
Rotax 912's usually announce their arrival with the clatter of the reduction gearbox when running slowly, and as for me trying to fly round the circuit with with one hand whilst using the other to ring a hand bell - I don't think I would be Pilot In Command! Mind you operating from a farm strip at this time of year the "Unclean" bit is correct!!
Rotax 912's usually announce their arrival with the clatter of the reduction gearbox when running slowly, and as for me trying to fly round the circuit with with one hand whilst using the other to ring a hand bell - I don't think I would be Pilot In Command! Mind you operating from a farm strip at this time of year the "Unclean" bit is correct!!
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Originally Posted by madlandrover
Inverness
Halfpenny Green (technically, although common sense also applies!)
Lydd
Halfpenny Green (technically, although common sense also applies!)
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Got boll@cked at Carlisle for nor wearing one of these rediculous things in June '06 on my way north.
3 days later, southbound, parked next to an RAF Puma, the crew walking all over the apron in full camouflage gear. Asked the same bloke who had boll@cked me why they were exempt - no comment.
(Would 'ave made 'em perfect sniper targets innit?)
3 days later, southbound, parked next to an RAF Puma, the crew walking all over the apron in full camouflage gear. Asked the same bloke who had boll@cked me why they were exempt - no comment.
(Would 'ave made 'em perfect sniper targets innit?)
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In contrast, the only people I usually see wearing "anti-death" vests at Popham are spotters who seem to think it makes them look official or something (or are just under the misconception that anyone at Popham cares about vests).
And, to give Kemble a vote of much-needed support, I've never worn a vest there and no one has ever said a word so they're not over the top in their enforcement, probably applying a common-sense approach to risk management.
And, to give Kemble a vote of much-needed support, I've never worn a vest there and no one has ever said a word so they're not over the top in their enforcement, probably applying a common-sense approach to risk management.
Tabs please !
Lands End (nice people who insist on a silly rule)
A yellow vest will not stop anyone walking into a prop but it makes the pieces easier to find afterwards.
The comment about microlights being fitted with bells reminds me that I once fitted a kiddies bicycle horn to my paragliding harness when ridge soaring on a busy day at Combe Gibbet. The world needs more silly beggars !
Anyway..... back to HF's thread.
A yellow vest will not stop anyone walking into a prop but it makes the pieces easier to find afterwards.
The comment about microlights being fitted with bells reminds me that I once fitted a kiddies bicycle horn to my paragliding harness when ridge soaring on a busy day at Combe Gibbet. The world needs more silly beggars !
Anyway..... back to HF's thread.
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I believe Newcastle EGNT is similarly anal and demonstrative of double standards. Just a coulple of weeks ago I watched the entire troup of Newcastle United saunter across the apron to catch their private flight for the match at Manchester. They walked over in dribs and drabs wearing only their matching tracksuits and several with heads down, texting their WAGs no doubt. I expect the sycophantic United supporting apron security/handling agent staff were too weak willed to request they don the yellow jackets. However, when the neighbouring flying club pilots do the same, all hell can break lose. I wish I had a photo of this - I would have not stopped short of demanding a written apology for years of harrasment.
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You could try trawling the AIP.
Humberside - Aircrew are to wear Hi-visibility jackets whilst on apron areas
Of course I would argue that "Hi-visibility" isn't proper English so the entry is not legally valid.
Humberside - Aircrew are to wear Hi-visibility jackets whilst on apron areas
Of course I would argue that "Hi-visibility" isn't proper English so the entry is not legally valid.
In defence of Lands End, while on holiday in August, I had my first lesson and a family sight-seeing trip (just in case they hated it and I could have got away with microlights rather than full size aircraft!) and there was no mention of us wearing these ludricrous (in that context) garments.
I am very keen on safety (I think the first thing I told my other half and small boy before letting them anywhere near the airfield was that propellers kill people!) but yellow jackets in a quiet, daylit, GA airfield are pure idiocy.
I am very keen on safety (I think the first thing I told my other half and small boy before letting them anywhere near the airfield was that propellers kill people!) but yellow jackets in a quiet, daylit, GA airfield are pure idiocy.