What Ever Happened to BCT at Kemble
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Oh, joy...
‘Shanley/Couzens was signed in as a Director at the beginning of 2007... All staff at the time handed in their notices and left’
Glorious. I laughed out loud when I read that.
No-one who has ever met Pawl would be in any doubt: this guy could not run a company, within any meaningful definition of the word ‘run’.
Someone on this message board recently researched Mr Shanley's home address, and as a last token of wakefulness one night I typed it into one of the mapping web-sites. The result was interesting.
On the face of it, he lives in a cottage immediately opposite the entrance to the aerodrome where he works. But I really don't believe that. My instinct is that he provided whoever-it-is with a falsified address. Stuck for inspiration, he used an address he saw every day as he left to go home: 1 Patsyat Cottage, Kemble; and then he looked up the postcode: GL7 6AY. Even Pawl could do that.
So if anyone feels like calling round, be prepared for a little old lady who doesn't know what's going on.
If anyone has one of those voters' register CDs and some time to kill, they could try looking up anyone called P J Shanley (and perhaps Couzens) within 50 miles of Kemble. A pint of best says you won't find anyone at 1 Patsyat Cottage, Kemble, GL7 6AY.
Delicate question perhaps, Waitingtofly, but what company did Pawl and your friend work for? A publisher called Merricks, by any chance?
Glorious. I laughed out loud when I read that.
No-one who has ever met Pawl would be in any doubt: this guy could not run a company, within any meaningful definition of the word ‘run’.
Someone on this message board recently researched Mr Shanley's home address, and as a last token of wakefulness one night I typed it into one of the mapping web-sites. The result was interesting.
On the face of it, he lives in a cottage immediately opposite the entrance to the aerodrome where he works. But I really don't believe that. My instinct is that he provided whoever-it-is with a falsified address. Stuck for inspiration, he used an address he saw every day as he left to go home: 1 Patsyat Cottage, Kemble; and then he looked up the postcode: GL7 6AY. Even Pawl could do that.
So if anyone feels like calling round, be prepared for a little old lady who doesn't know what's going on.
If anyone has one of those voters' register CDs and some time to kill, they could try looking up anyone called P J Shanley (and perhaps Couzens) within 50 miles of Kemble. A pint of best says you won't find anyone at 1 Patsyat Cottage, Kemble, GL7 6AY.
Delicate question perhaps, Waitingtofly, but what company did Pawl and your friend work for? A publisher called Merricks, by any chance?
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I few years back, when I was hunting around for a flying school to do my PPL, I came across Pawl at the Fly! exhibition at Earls Court manning the BCT stand. I vividly remember him telling me about how he'd hired an aircraft in the US and flown himself across the Grand Canyon.
Subsequently, when I started training with BCT, I saw Pawl dressed in an 'aircrew' style white shirt, complete with epaulettes and gold braid.
'Is he an instructor then?' I asked my own instructor. 'No - he's only just got his PPL' came the reply. Hmmm - made the story about the Grand Canyon seem a bit suspect...
Subsequently, when I started training with BCT, I saw Pawl dressed in an 'aircrew' style white shirt, complete with epaulettes and gold braid.
'Is he an instructor then?' I asked my own instructor. 'No - he's only just got his PPL' came the reply. Hmmm - made the story about the Grand Canyon seem a bit suspect...
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Sadly no it wasn't Merricks.
But I was lead to believe that before he became a Pilot/CPL IR (or not) instructor the he was a top London DJ.
And yes I'm afraid that he does live opposite the airfield!
But I was lead to believe that before he became a Pilot/CPL IR (or not) instructor the he was a top London DJ.
And yes I'm afraid that he does live opposite the airfield!
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That's it then. You might have to accept that you probably won't get your money back so buy a very large tin of brake fluid, put in in a bucket with a sponge on top and go round and offer to "wash" his car paintwork for him. That'll cost at least £1200 to put right.
If you need any more advice, please feel free to ask.
If you need any more advice, please feel free to ask.
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Whilst it well might bring personal gratification, criminal damage is still criminal damage...... So please do not follow ShyTorque's suggestion.
I note that Pawl 'PJ' Shanley is the Company Director of Trans-International Airways, The Flight Centre, D Site, Kemble Airfield, Kemble, Glos GL7 6BA. This purports to be a 'Personal Aircraft Charter' company which claims to 'operate a wide and varied modern fleet of aircraft'....
Odd, is it not, that the company does not feature in the CAA's list of UK AOC holders?
I note that Pawl 'PJ' Shanley is the Company Director of Trans-International Airways, The Flight Centre, D Site, Kemble Airfield, Kemble, Glos GL7 6BA. This purports to be a 'Personal Aircraft Charter' company which claims to 'operate a wide and varied modern fleet of aircraft'....
Odd, is it not, that the company does not feature in the CAA's list of UK AOC holders?
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What is this all about. I think you have replied to the wronge thread.
This thread is concerning £1,200 that was stolen by BCT at Kemble airfield via either Captain Litten who took the money or by Paul Shanley aka many other names apparently, who promised to sort out the hours paid for or a refund as he said he was now running BCT and then decides to put the telephone down when asked to once-and-for-all sort it out, clearly knowing all along that there was never any intention of either providing the service paid for or repaying the unused portion of £1,400.
Who are you exactly ? just to let everyone else out there who has avidly been concerned of my losses, know who you are.
Good idea about Special Branch though. They are on the list of contacts to be made along with Customs and Revenue as my bill included VAT!
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This thread is concerning £1,200 that was stolen by BCT at Kemble airfield via either Captain Litten who took the money or by Paul Shanley aka many other names apparently, who promised to sort out the hours paid for or a refund as he said he was now running BCT and then decides to put the telephone down when asked to once-and-for-all sort it out, clearly knowing all along that there was never any intention of either providing the service paid for or repaying the unused portion of £1,400.
Who are you exactly ? just to let everyone else out there who has avidly been concerned of my losses, know who you are.
Good idea about Special Branch though. They are on the list of contacts to be made along with Customs and Revenue as my bill included VAT!
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Hi, I now wonder if BCT had an AOC licence when I paid them for the charter hours and when I did fly with them. Perhaps someone out there could check out this as if anyone else out there has lost money with this organisation there may be another route for recourse for others too.
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This is the CAA page with the current list; but a quick scan didn't reveal anything about past operations.
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...96&pagetype=90
http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?ca...96&pagetype=90
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It amazing this place isnt it! I have been working away and just come home again and I miss all this! Just to return to the good name of Kemble whats happening there now? Is it a good place to fly in for a day out? Who do you contact there?
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Hmm, I tend to agree with this line of action though something more agressive and undertaken by two big lads from Glasgow who you never actually meet springs to mind 
Might cost you a few quid but at least you will get a result and a huge amount of satisfaction.
Might cost you a few quid but at least you will get a result and a huge amount of satisfaction.
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Hi RADICALRABBIT, Thanks for your moral support. I hear what you say but the trouble is it would only make me as bad as them. All I want is one of the individuals who has spent my money to acknowledge it is/was wronge and return my money, no more-no less. I can prove they made it impossible to utilise the hours paid for and that I paid the money etc etc. They will not be able to prove otherwise and one would assume their accounts would have a large question mark inside, wondering where this un-reconciled money came from. If they were operating an AOC charter business, I am led to believe there are very tight records kept for the operation. I do hope this Paul Shanley or what ever his actual name is has discussed his past history to his new partner at Kemble airfield and that anyone flying at this joint venture ask for their money back and go somewhere else to do their flying as all they will be doing is funding criminals.
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Negative Marketing
Given the huge "readership" if that can be the correct term for this forum, I would think anyone who was considering doing business with him in future will have had the alarm bells rung loud and clear by now
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Criminal Company- Bct Aviation Kemble
Thanks again Radicalrabit. Lets hope this is the case. I would hate to see more people loose their money with this organization.
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BCT Aviation Kemble Ltd, Reg No 04599393
Incorporated 25/11/2002, Issued Share Capital £2
Winding Up Order issued 10 Jan 2008
Trans International Airways Ltd, Co Rg No 05901211
Incorporated 9/8/2006, Issued Share Capital £1
No accounts filed
Incorporated 25/11/2002, Issued Share Capital £2
Winding Up Order issued 10 Jan 2008
Trans International Airways Ltd, Co Rg No 05901211
Incorporated 9/8/2006, Issued Share Capital £1
No accounts filed
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No no no. It's like this. The old company — which is going under — transfers all its assets to a new company, then the old company is wound up. The new company then merges with another company. That way, HMRC, the aviation authorities and Special Branch (where did they come from all of a sudden?) are completely hoodwinked — baffled — flummoxed. Even the late Inspector Morse couldn't see through that cunning plan.
Here is the article about the merger:
http://www.flyer.co.uk/news/newsfeed.php?artnum=679
The date of the article is 3 January this year — a few months after TIA was incorporated, and one week before BCT finally died.
The TIA web-site — mentioned elsewhere in this thread — is a sham: very nicely designed, but using a plane manufacturer's own PR pictures, and with no real content. The existence of the site doesn't prove that TIA ever actually did anything. In my view, TIA was never anything more than a half-baked debt-avoidance manoeuvre, created in order to disappear.
The article about the merger mentions one Ed Hewertson of Propstar Aviation. (The Flying Club Kemble, according to its web-site, is 'a wholly owned subsidiary of the PropStar Aviation Group'.) Propstar's very flashy web-site — the same designer as TIA's, I think — reveals that Edmund Hewertson is the MD. He might be able to shed some light on the financial background of the merger. In fact, Propstar's web-site invites us to give him a call: the number is 01285 771386, and the e-mail address is [email protected].
Propstar would not (or should not) have merged with a company without first letting their own accountant loose on its books or otherwise being intimate with the company's operations.
Here is the article about the merger:
http://www.flyer.co.uk/news/newsfeed.php?artnum=679
The date of the article is 3 January this year — a few months after TIA was incorporated, and one week before BCT finally died.
The TIA web-site — mentioned elsewhere in this thread — is a sham: very nicely designed, but using a plane manufacturer's own PR pictures, and with no real content. The existence of the site doesn't prove that TIA ever actually did anything. In my view, TIA was never anything more than a half-baked debt-avoidance manoeuvre, created in order to disappear.
The article about the merger mentions one Ed Hewertson of Propstar Aviation. (The Flying Club Kemble, according to its web-site, is 'a wholly owned subsidiary of the PropStar Aviation Group'.) Propstar's very flashy web-site — the same designer as TIA's, I think — reveals that Edmund Hewertson is the MD. He might be able to shed some light on the financial background of the merger. In fact, Propstar's web-site invites us to give him a call: the number is 01285 771386, and the e-mail address is [email protected].
Propstar would not (or should not) have merged with a company without first letting their own accountant loose on its books or otherwise being intimate with the company's operations.
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A top London DJ...
Really? Who told you that? The word 'top' makes the whole idea somehow comical. Sometimes when I think back to my experiences of working in the same office as Pawl (not 'working with' him — that never happened, I'm pleased to say), and when I read posts on this thread, I'm gripped by the urge to giggle childishly, like Herbert Lom in the padded cell scrawling 'Kill Clouseau' with his foot.
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Criminal Activity of BCT AVIATION KEMBLE.
Wow, it would seem these individuals knew all along that they had no intention of sorting out the money they owed me. My chasing of this money has been for some time, in excess of a year or so and they only just wound up in a ball of total Ball**it last month, after this thread was started!
This investigation, if it is worth it will have to continue until someone pays up.
The authorities are already investigating certain individuals so we shall have to watch this soap for the latest installment.
With any luck Her Maj's pleasure will be offered to a few special people.
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This investigation, if it is worth it will have to continue until someone pays up.
The authorities are already investigating certain individuals so we shall have to watch this soap for the latest installment.
With any luck Her Maj's pleasure will be offered to a few special people.
M