Pan pan after engine failue ?

[IFMU]

If descending through IMC, it's a lot better to hit trees (or anything else for that matter) at 65kt than at 95kt. The difference in energy is about 2x.

Good point. If the clouds go to the ground you are better off slow. If the clouds don't go to the ground then I would want to have some speed to arrest the descent.

-- IFMU

[Kit d'Rection KG]

Here we go again...

A commercial departs and suffers an engine failure. There is no immediate danger. The crew are well practised, there is no fire, and ample power to continue safely on one engine. The aircraft is not in serious or imminent danger but the crew call a mayday because they rightly require complete priority to return and land - it is SOP.

FUJI, No. Another case of the uninformed posting on matters outside their expertise, I fear...

Engine malfunction without fire in a CAT aircraft would require a 'Pan' call. One exception would be if it occurred in a State which may not recognise 'Pan' calls, in which case that consideration alone would dictate a Mayday. And it's not 'SOP' either, but trained custom and practise (I'm not aware of any companies publishing SOPs which are prescriptive to the extent of dictating specific declarations of urgency or emergency for specific conditions).

[Fuji Abound]

http://flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_B...ideo-8457.html

Was the engine on fire? What did the crew know of it when they called a mayday? Were they single engine or reduced thrust and what reserves of performance did they have? What did they do?

Immediate assistance of AT required - mayday,

immediate assistance not required - pan.

That is how I see it - we will just have to beg to differ.