Do you use plural?
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In what context? Do you mean saying "we" instead of "I"? I don't think I say either.
However, I do say "final" instead of "finals" if that helps!
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Whirls
However, I do say "final" instead of "finals" if that helps!
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Doesn't matter whether you're single or two crew - like whirly I've never used "we" or "I". Can't imagine a scenario when you would.
The aircraft is an "it", therefore the definitive articles "it" and "is" get used. e.g G-ABCD IS a PA28.....................etc"
The aircraft is an "it", therefore the definitive articles "it" and "is" get used. e.g G-ABCD IS a PA28.....................etc"
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Hmmm...didn't think of this from the a/c's POV. However...
-The a/c is not looking for traffic
-The aircraft is not canceling its IFR plan
In short, the aircraft is not alone-it has crew.
Come to think of it, when I think of other traffic, it's always an a/c. When I think about my a/c, it's "we" or "I".
Would be interesting to hear a controller's opinion as well....
-The a/c is not looking for traffic
-The aircraft is not canceling its IFR plan
In short, the aircraft is not alone-it has crew.
Come to think of it, when I think of other traffic, it's always an a/c. When I think about my a/c, it's "we" or "I".
Would be interesting to hear a controller's opinion as well....
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I say final too, because I don't really see what there is to plural. Is this incorrect? I often say 'on final' which I try not to because it could potentially be confused with 'long final'.
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I still don't get it. Surely it would be something like, "Airfield Radar, G-ABCD, cancelling IFR plan". Where does "we" or "I" come into it?
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With regard to the final thing...
There's one final-so it should be singular IMO. Do you say downwinds? Bases? ;-)
The initial question was with regard to oneself. (When you have to say either we or I, and are the only person on board).
There's one final-so it should be singular IMO. Do you say downwinds? Bases? ;-)
The initial question was with regard to oneself. (When you have to say either we or I, and are the only person on board).
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No, you're not the only one DB!
OK, although I cannot think of a circumstance in which I would be referring to myself and/or passengers to ATC, let's just say that there is such a circumstance.
In that case, I would say "I" since the radio telephonic exchange would be between myself and the controller.
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OK, although I cannot think of a circumstance in which I would be referring to myself and/or passengers to ATC, let's just say that there is such a circumstance.
In that case, I would say "I" since the radio telephonic exchange would be between myself and the controller.
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Doesn't matter whether you're single or two crew - like whirly I've never used "we" or "I". Can't imagine a scenario when you would.
I'm sure you could find a way to rephrase everything in the third person if you tried but it sounds a bit daft, particularly with a long callsign.
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BTW-this could be a language issue (when not speaking english).
But in VFR flight, when talking to an FIC, surely there must be times you say "I" or "we"...
"HAB, will you relay the following to Information for us...we took off from LXXX, presently at XXX..."
"Information, ARC. We'll remain in the area for 5 minutes".
Again, this could be a language issue, but I'm curious...
But in VFR flight, when talking to an FIC, surely there must be times you say "I" or "we"...
"HAB, will you relay the following to Information for us...we took off from LXXX, presently at XXX..."
"Information, ARC. We'll remain in the area for 5 minutes".
Again, this could be a language issue, but I'm curious...
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Doesn't matter whether you're single or two crew - like whirly I've never used "we" or "I". Can't imagine a scenario when you would.
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I am capable of understanding whitespiral's question perfectly, and it is a matter I have mused on before myself. To answer his question, If I have a passenger or passengers on board I say "we," and if I don't, I say "I" ! Whether it is of any possible assistance for ATC to know that I have company ( I suppose it might be if I crash) I don't know, but I simply instinctively use the appropriate pronoun!
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"I", if using a pronoun. (I suppose there are always ways to avoid pronouns, but sometimes that is too tortuous or I can't think quickly enough for a way to avoid it.) As in, when responding to question from ATC about intentions, "I hope to manoeuvre to gain height to 3400 feet before heading north again". Avoiding it, but less grammatical IMHO, "Hoping to . . . etc."
Well, you did ask!
Chris N.
Well, you did ask!
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