High Viz Jackets - Mandatory at GA Airfields?
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What worries me is when the whole of the UK population is 'appropriately' attired (instances: for the walk/ride to school, shops, warehouse, loading yard or office, fag break outside, driving the white van, driving any van, driving/pointing/starting/looking at anything with wheels or just moving parts.... and just in case one has to do any of those things...), there'll then be a need for some overpaid, under-educated pompous official to have a meeting about a feasibility study (with token focus group) to invent an even brighter colour to stand out from the rest.
Sickening.
Sickening.
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I generally find that the standard high-vis vest is a bit too voluminous for comfort and tends to get caught on things. I generally leave the aircraft dressed like this
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/a-borat2.jpg
as I find this garment comfortable, eyecatching and fashionable.
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/a-borat2.jpg
as I find this garment comfortable, eyecatching and fashionable.
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Don't you find that a bit draughty?
As BRL requested, I have started a new thread HERE to list UK GA airfields which require you to wear yellow hi-viz jackets.
My hope is that if we see the list and avoid these airfields (there's an irony) until COMMON SENSE prevails, there may be an outbreak of common sense. I don't believe this would put any airfield at risk as I would suggest that owners would be reluctant to do anything which would jeopardise their income - such as appearing on the "PPrune List".
Remember, the CAP says "should" not "must".
As BRL requested, I have started a new thread HERE to list UK GA airfields which require you to wear yellow hi-viz jackets.
My hope is that if we see the list and avoid these airfields (there's an irony) until COMMON SENSE prevails, there may be an outbreak of common sense. I don't believe this would put any airfield at risk as I would suggest that owners would be reluctant to do anything which would jeopardise their income - such as appearing on the "PPrune List".
Remember, the CAP says "should" not "must".
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Does anyone here really believe that any airfield would amend its safety rules (sensible or otherwise) against CAA advice (assuming the should comment is correct-I haven't checked personally) due to a boycott by a few Prooners? 
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All things in the 'Should' list - And all things which sound quite reasonable to do for turning a 757 at Manch. For an airport that has one walk behind airplane pusher, 1 fire truck and 2 fuel trucks???
But then again, I am looking forward to the provision of a Visual Docking System, Jetway and Fixed Ground power after being guided in to the Kemble parking area by the Follow Me truck
All things recommended as improving safety in CAP 642
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Well, this is my first post!!
I my few years in aviation (a whole 5!) I cant really see a time where wearing a hi vis vest saved someone from their own actions, examples I have seen are:
Idiots who cannot do an overhead rejoin
Going the wrong way in a circuit
Not reading a NOTAM and charging thru an airshow
swinging a prop on a tiger, slipping and somehow falling thru the running prob
Walking across the front of the tiger as I start to taxi
Landing over a plane lined up for takeoff (and rolling)
And.... helicopter pilot refuelling... smoke in hand.. passengers (kids) left in helicopter with engine running... not using earth wire... jandals.. oh and the cardinal sin.. no hi vis jacket!!
Honestly, on a tarmac, the best safety equipment I have are the ones I was born with - a set of eyes and a set of ears. Use them and I reckon you dont need a dorky hi vis vest!
I my few years in aviation (a whole 5!) I cant really see a time where wearing a hi vis vest saved someone from their own actions, examples I have seen are:
Idiots who cannot do an overhead rejoin
Going the wrong way in a circuit
Not reading a NOTAM and charging thru an airshow
swinging a prop on a tiger, slipping and somehow falling thru the running prob
Walking across the front of the tiger as I start to taxi
Landing over a plane lined up for takeoff (and rolling)
And.... helicopter pilot refuelling... smoke in hand.. passengers (kids) left in helicopter with engine running... not using earth wire... jandals.. oh and the cardinal sin.. no hi vis jacket!!
Honestly, on a tarmac, the best safety equipment I have are the ones I was born with - a set of eyes and a set of ears. Use them and I reckon you dont need a dorky hi vis vest!
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I strongly object to Hi-Vis health and safety nonsense in principle, however...
I landed at Biggin Hill on Sunday and had to walk across a very busy apron - jets taxiing, helicopters running-up, singles and twins moving here and there. There must have been 4 or 5 aircraft with engines running to get past between the parking spot I was marshalled to and the C.
In this location I have to it does make sense to be a visually stimulating as possible - ironically I have given the aircraft a clean-out and forgotted to put the Hi-Vis back in. I would have worn it without resistance if I'd had it though.
It is NOT mandatory there yet.
I do sympathise with airport management whose liability insurance stipulates that a robust health and safety policy is in place.
The objection I have is at the quieter places (where you are the only movement of the hour) when jobsworths get upset. This is annoying, esp if they insist that you buy a Hi-Vis tabard before they let you out to the aircraft.
SB
I landed at Biggin Hill on Sunday and had to walk across a very busy apron - jets taxiing, helicopters running-up, singles and twins moving here and there. There must have been 4 or 5 aircraft with engines running to get past between the parking spot I was marshalled to and the C.
In this location I have to it does make sense to be a visually stimulating as possible - ironically I have given the aircraft a clean-out and forgotted to put the Hi-Vis back in. I would have worn it without resistance if I'd had it though.
It is NOT mandatory there yet.
I do sympathise with airport management whose liability insurance stipulates that a robust health and safety policy is in place.
The objection I have is at the quieter places (where you are the only movement of the hour) when jobsworths get upset. This is annoying, esp if they insist that you buy a Hi-Vis tabard before they let you out to the aircraft.
SB
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"Idiots who cannot do an overhead rejoin"
steady there Bastardos.
Some of us would argue that the concept of the overhead join is outdated itself and likely to put aircraft arriving simultaneously into dangerously close proximity, especially as we are not all doing 70kts in piper cubs any more.
Join: Downwind on the '45, base or straight-in suit me far better.
There are not many idiots in aviation, Darwin's theory sees to that.
SB
steady there Bastardos.
Some of us would argue that the concept of the overhead join is outdated itself and likely to put aircraft arriving simultaneously into dangerously close proximity, especially as we are not all doing 70kts in piper cubs any more.
Join: Downwind on the '45, base or straight-in suit me far better.
There are not many idiots in aviation, Darwin's theory sees to that.
SB
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An object lesson on what can happen if you don't wear your see-me-vest!
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I turned up in the states to do some further training, the yanks saw the high-viz jacket in my crew bag and laughed me off the ramp 
its nice to know we in the UK give them a good laugh every now and again
its nice to know we in the UK give them a good laugh every now and again