Quickies while Flying
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Quickies while Flying
Jeyes Quickies remove permanent marker from Charts
My wife was cleaning off her nail varnish on the sofa with little pads from a pink container. What on earth are they? "They're Quickies". Quite simply, they are cotton pads impregnated with acetone (nail varnish remover).
So as quickly as she said "get off" I got one of those permanent CD/DVD marker pens, put a mark on my 1:500 000 chart, and then with one wipe of one of these Quickies. The box it comes in is in a hideous pink box, so chaps hide these deep in your flight bags. The box does reseal, and I can resuse a pad several times (it comes with 20 pads inside). They cost about the same as a pint, available (I'd imagine) in most high street chemists and superstores.
I've tried dry whiteboard type pens which just wipe off, but they wipe off a bit too easily, and I've also used the technique of writing over permament marker with a dry wipe marker too (works well). I've also used nail varnish remover and a kitchen roll which is fine too, but can be a bit messy and smelly and it may not get past security.
No, I don't work for Jeyes, and no I don't wear nail varnish as a rule!
My wife was cleaning off her nail varnish on the sofa with little pads from a pink container. What on earth are they? "They're Quickies". Quite simply, they are cotton pads impregnated with acetone (nail varnish remover).
So as quickly as she said "get off" I got one of those permanent CD/DVD marker pens, put a mark on my 1:500 000 chart, and then with one wipe of one of these Quickies. The box it comes in is in a hideous pink box, so chaps hide these deep in your flight bags. The box does reseal, and I can resuse a pad several times (it comes with 20 pads inside). They cost about the same as a pint, available (I'd imagine) in most high street chemists and superstores.
I've tried dry whiteboard type pens which just wipe off, but they wipe off a bit too easily, and I've also used the technique of writing over permament marker with a dry wipe marker too (works well). I've also used nail varnish remover and a kitchen roll which is fine too, but can be a bit messy and smelly and it may not get past security.
No, I don't work for Jeyes, and no I don't wear nail varnish as a rule!
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From: The Burrow, N53:48:02 W1:48:57, The Tin Tent - EGBS, EGBO
May I suggest you be VERY careful when using acetone / acetone impregnated tissues in a closed environment it is an extremely flammable substance and can also give you nasty headaches (amongst other things). You could always get some non-acetone nail varnish remover, make your own pads and keep them in a leakproof, airtight container. They would probably be a bit cheaper too and the lads wouldn't need to worry about what colour the container was 
as they could choose their own. 
as they could choose their own.
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These seem to work quite well too. The white one, is an eraser....you simply shade over your existing line, and then wipe it off with a cloth.
A lot cheaper than permanent pens in the aviation shops too.
dp
A lot cheaper than permanent pens in the aviation shops too.
dp
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Whirls, I think you've been warned before about not spilling your drinks on aviation charts.
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
'SOk, now that I carry a small bottle of white wine with me, I can easily get rid of the red wine stains on my charts!
And if you want to get rid of tea stains in your mug, use a steradent tablet but never use bleach as it destroys the structure of fine bone china!
Cheers
Whirls - Queen of the handy household hints!
And if you want to get rid of tea stains in your mug, use a steradent tablet but never use bleach as it destroys the structure of fine bone china!
Cheers
Whirls - Queen of the handy household hints!
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Am I the only one who expected a thread about joining the mile high club in a small aeroplane!!!!!!!!!
However, I have kept Tesco's nail varnish remover pads in my flight bag for years and years. Doesn't everyone?
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e). They cost about the same as a pint, available (I'd imagine) in most high street chemists and superstores.
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Tigger,
Where do you live,it sounds quite interesting?
Lister
e). They cost about the same as a pint, available (I'd imagine) in most high street chemists and superstores.
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Tigger,
Where do you live,it sounds quite interesting?
Lister
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I am willing to bet a fiver that these things will never catch on in PFA circles.
Mind you I have yet to see a member put a line on a chart. If the CAA made the bold step forward of putting real ale pubs symbols on the charts it could possibly double the number of members that carry an up todate chart. And half the number that become unsure of thier position.
Mind you I have yet to see a member put a line on a chart. If the CAA made the bold step forward of putting real ale pubs symbols on the charts it could possibly double the number of members that carry an up todate chart. And half the number that become unsure of thier position.
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I still have a coupla boxes of medi-swabs left over from the part-time job when I retired a year or so ago. (you know - the individually wrapped 2cm square swabs impregnated with iso-propyl alcohol that your doc -or usually nurse nowadays- cleanses the skin with prior to taking blood)
They work well, don't fill the cockpit with fumes and when sealed seem to stay moist for ever...........
Safe flying
Cusco
Should have added that they get chinagraph marks off a treat too...............
They work well, don't fill the cockpit with fumes and when sealed seem to stay moist for ever...........
Safe flying
Cusco
Should have added that they get chinagraph marks off a treat too...............
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From a few years of experience, I've noticed that brown coloured permanent pen marks are the most easily erased. Conversely permanent blue marks can stain the film covering forever, if left on the chart too long and will not come off, even with a solvent, because the ink actually combines with the plastic.
Having said that, I've got a little cardboard box containing almost a gross of brown chinagraph pencil lead refills in my personal stash, so I don't use permanent marks very often these days.
I use mainly just track lines marking the chosen route, sometimes with miles to go leading to the turning points, if I've got time.
Having said that, I've got a little cardboard box containing almost a gross of brown chinagraph pencil lead refills in my personal stash, so I don't use permanent marks very often these days.
I use mainly just track lines marking the chosen route, sometimes with miles to go leading to the turning points, if I've got time.
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Good old chinagraph pencil - comes off with a damp cloth!
And you're right about brown permanent marker. But it looks like sh..!
But these days, it's just a quick chinagraph line on the chart, measure the track and distance and MDR the heading and time. Put the waypoints in the GPS, confirm the CDI bar is centered, look out and enjoy the view!
And you're right about brown permanent marker. But it looks like sh..!
But these days, it's just a quick chinagraph line on the chart, measure the track and distance and MDR the heading and time. Put the waypoints in the GPS, confirm the CDI bar is centered, look out and enjoy the view!
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
I've only used GPS once; I still do me nav the old fashioned way - hence the reason I have tried all sorts of dangerous substances to remove my track lines from my charts (and the red wine stains!!).
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I think the shops are the worst though for some of the nonsense out there.
I have heard the sales spiel in that spotter shop in Leeds and in transair in London about pens and charts.
In fact someones dad asked me in Transair while I was waiting with my ickle red day log book and a couple of black chinas. What the hell the guy was on about. I really didn't have a clue why you would need even 5% of what the guy was on about. The sales persons heared me and in a very sarcastic tone asked me what I knew, seems you need about 2 charts, a pack of permant OHP pens, a pack of none permant OHPs, some gizzmo to work out circuit directions, a thing which was mask for fan lines and circle thingy's, vor thing's which you stick on the chart, a normal square, a foldy ruler thing and a postitive flight bag full of !!!!e which I wouldn't use.
My reply of 700 hours as an instructor and all you need is a china graph, a thumb which god gave you anyway, a chart, a square and a stopwatch if you were gay didn't go down to well. The dad had a laugh though just cut his CC bill down from 125 quid down to 25 quid.
I have heard the sales spiel in that spotter shop in Leeds and in transair in London about pens and charts.
In fact someones dad asked me in Transair while I was waiting with my ickle red day log book and a couple of black chinas. What the hell the guy was on about. I really didn't have a clue why you would need even 5% of what the guy was on about. The sales persons heared me and in a very sarcastic tone asked me what I knew, seems you need about 2 charts, a pack of permant OHP pens, a pack of none permant OHPs, some gizzmo to work out circuit directions, a thing which was mask for fan lines and circle thingy's, vor thing's which you stick on the chart, a normal square, a foldy ruler thing and a postitive flight bag full of !!!!e which I wouldn't use.
My reply of 700 hours as an instructor and all you need is a china graph, a thumb which god gave you anyway, a chart, a square and a stopwatch if you were gay didn't go down to well. The dad had a laugh though just cut his CC bill down from 125 quid down to 25 quid.
