Looking for an Evans VP1 or VP2
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From: I have no idea but the view's great.
Hang on.
Why try to find a sub-3K aircraft to fit with an almost 2K EFIS?
EFIS in a Veep?
Surely, if it's noisy the engine's working, if it's noisy and doesn't smell of burning the engine is working well.
I've got 95% of a VP-2 which I intend to fly some day, when I get round to re-building the few bits that need doing. I love it to bits but:
a) I've yet to fly it
b) I didn't get this much good advice before I bought it
Why try to find a sub-3K aircraft to fit with an almost 2K EFIS?
EFIS in a Veep?
Surely, if it's noisy the engine's working, if it's noisy and doesn't smell of burning the engine is working well.
I've got 95% of a VP-2 which I intend to fly some day, when I get round to re-building the few bits that need doing. I love it to bits but:
a) I've yet to fly it
b) I didn't get this much good advice before I bought it
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From: Norfolk
EFIS - deffo a jolly good idea.
I think that you ought to take a look at the Garmin GNS530 (twinned obviously), Wx8 Strormscope, Mode Sierra, TCAS and possibly a BRS parachute.
Unless you really are a 4st racing snake the thing is so underpowered that you'd be best advised not to add any weight at all. I certainly wouldn't want one with lots of paint.
And I have flown one, once and once was plenty!
I think that you ought to take a look at the Garmin GNS530 (twinned obviously), Wx8 Strormscope, Mode Sierra, TCAS and possibly a BRS parachute.
Unless you really are a 4st racing snake the thing is so underpowered that you'd be best advised not to add any weight at all. I certainly wouldn't want one with lots of paint.
And I have flown one, once and once was plenty!
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From: South Norfolk, England
Standard instruments for a Veep are ... ASI, ALT, Compass, RPM and oil temp/pressure. The only other very useful instrument is a CHT. Anything more is just unneccesary weight.
If you are light like me then the VP is fine. It is easy to get it onto the back of the drag curve which will frighten you as you just won't climb and the engine will quickly overheat
Avoid that, and accept it's less than crisp (compared to other single seat homebuilts) handleing and you'll find it a lot of fun. It takes a few hours to get used to it's quirks, but it is essentially very easy to fly. I'd still advise you to seek out a Luton, FRED, T31m, Taylor Mono ect in preferance for similar money though. That said, for the money you can't really go that wrong if it's a decent one.
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If you are light like me then the VP is fine. It is easy to get it onto the back of the drag curve which will frighten you as you just won't climb and the engine will quickly overheat
Avoid that, and accept it's less than crisp (compared to other single seat homebuilts) handleing and you'll find it a lot of fun. It takes a few hours to get used to it's quirks, but it is essentially very easy to fly. I'd still advise you to seek out a Luton, FRED, T31m, Taylor Mono ect in preferance for similar money though. That said, for the money you can't really go that wrong if it's a decent one.SS
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From: Hampshire, UK
About 20 years ago there was a squadron of VPs based at Old Sarum.
I certainly wouldn't recommend building one now, there must be a number of completed examples lying around in garages etc just awaiting minimal money and a little tlc to get them back in the air - mine included!
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From: Cumbernauld
Dont know much about VP1s but I have a Luton Minor and have flown 15 hours in it over 2 months and loved every moment! The climb rate is a heady 200 fpm and 60 kts cruise is just about achievable the best bit is I still have cash in the bank to allow me to fly even more (9-10 lph Mogas)! I intend to up the engine(1600 VW peacock) to 1834cc not for speed but to improve climb rate, too many hills around me that take a bit of climb to get over. Instruments are minimal and I have a handheld radio and a small handheld gps the simplicity is one of the endearing qualities. I have purchased a leather flying helmet with the headset installed and dont care what it looks like cos as was pointed out you need to be thick skinned to fly these planes.
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From: Cumbernauld
Pure simplicity
WR it is simple some times when you are having so much fun you end up forgetting where you are and it is just a nice little comforter also have you ever tried to open a map in an open cockpit The radio is to listen to all the poor spam can pilots yattering away to the various services
Seriously its there because I fly out of a field that has para dropping and is for safety
The radio is to listen to all the poor spam can pilots yattering away to the various services Seriously its there because I fly out of a field that has para dropping and is for safety
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From: South Norfolk, England
The GPS sounds very sensible. I used to fly S205-18F's Luton Minor using a chart and it wasn't easy, but gps was bloody expensive back then. I've dumbed down my anti GPS views since I've started flying the T31m (which is even more windy than the Luton). I keep the chart to hand (under my bum actually) as I find it easier to orientate myself with (too many years using a chart compared to gps) but now use the PDA + memory map + gps as primary nav with double checks against the chart. In an open cockpit aircraft, I have to admit this has reduced the workload considerably and added to the enjoyment no end ... though as a pureist I hate to admit it 
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From: Sweden
Cool
There is a Volksplane i Sweden that is for sale, contact the swedish EAA and they will give you the name and E-mail of the owner. Itīs not a pretty plane but it does the job. www.eaa.se I think itīs yellow blue based in Stockholm.
If you want to get up to this summer already I have only one advice. Buy one flying. Finishing a plane alomost always costs more then to buy one RTF. (ready to fly)
Good luck
If you want to get up to this summer already I have only one advice. Buy one flying. Finishing a plane alomost always costs more then to buy one RTF. (ready to fly)
Good luck
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From: The Great Yonder
It looks like I'm going to be purchasing a completed aircraft. I've had my offer accepted and hope to take delivery in late January. It's a VP-1 on the G register with a simple GPS installed....maybe I won't install my EFIS after all!! I'll save the for the A320!
