ppl training.
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ppl training.
hi guys. just a quick question, any help would be great. im looking to do my ppl in the cheapest jaa or caa approved school known to man. so far ormond beach looks good, (never mind all the bad reviews it got). could anyone tell me of a cheaper school that they know of. it costs £3,700 or 5k in euro approx.
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
This question may be better off in Private Flying.
However, cheapest is not necessarily cheapest in the long run. The price you've quoted assumes you pass in 45 hours. What if you don't? Have you factored in accommodation etc.
But, also consider that if finances are tight now, are you going to be able to afford to maintain the licence.
You get what you pay for!
Cheers
Whirls
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However, cheapest is not necessarily cheapest in the long run. The price you've quoted assumes you pass in 45 hours. What if you don't? Have you factored in accommodation etc.
But, also consider that if finances are tight now, are you going to be able to afford to maintain the licence.
You get what you pay for!
Cheers
Whirls
..and as I was typing ... pooooof ... it's been moved!
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I looked beyond the negative comments and looked at the positive ones too. I'm looking forward to having a really intensive flying course. The 'boot camp' idea sounds hard but great! (if that makes any sense?). A bit of discipline and a bit of swallowing ones pride has never hurt anyone.
I'm booked for the end of October. Bring it on.
I'm booked for the end of October. Bring it on.
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i had 2 friends who went to florida together, 1 studied groungschool before they went, the other didnt. the guy won studied came home with a ppl the other guy just ended up having an expensive holiday. so my advice is be prepared, be confident and enjoy the experience of flying and if you make it through all the better and if not then maybe it just wasnt ment to be..
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from what ive read here in the past month or so, and talking to various ppls, doing the ground school here in the uk first seems the best/sensible route.
if and when i get round to it, thats what i shall be doing.
if and when i get round to it, thats what i shall be doing.
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well my friend who studied before me went out to florida done jaa groundschool and passed 3 out of 4 1st attempt and was told on arrival in florida that he would have to it all again out there..
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I cant remember the name of the form. You apply for your JAA license from the CAA. Your local flying club should be able to supply you the form, infact they have to sign the exam passes.
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Based on my experience at OBA, I would recommend the following if you anticipate going to OBA.
First purchase the study pack and study for the exams before going to OBA.
Then when onsite at OBA, you should take the exams there. Thats included in the fees anyway. At the same time, interacting with others onsite might help you pass the exam easier. Make sure that you pass the exams within 2 weeks of your arrival. Thats actually possible if you have really studied for the exams intensively. Dont forget the confuser. It is a valuable resource.
Good luck.
WP
First purchase the study pack and study for the exams before going to OBA.
Then when onsite at OBA, you should take the exams there. Thats included in the fees anyway. At the same time, interacting with others onsite might help you pass the exam easier. Make sure that you pass the exams within 2 weeks of your arrival. Thats actually possible if you have really studied for the exams intensively. Dont forget the confuser. It is a valuable resource.
Good luck.
WP
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Why is it that people that will make a perfectly rational decision about value for money spending when it comes to something like a pair of jeans but are more than willing to launch themselves into the air with an outfit that is simply the cheapest? I'd much rather wear a pair of low quality jeans and know I'm getting value for money in the quality stakes with my training outfit.
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Economical, but not miserly, private pilot
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From: Manchester Barton
You're right in a sense, decisions based on cost alone are usually prone to dissapointment. Best "value" is the key.
Choosing something that is "the cheapest" that still attains a recognized international standard is perfectly valid.
For example, a dust mask with a BSI kite mark bought from a pound shop is just as good for the purpose as one bought for £3.99 from a large DIY store with large orange lettering.
Buying comparable product without recognized standards though is very difficult. That's why standards were created.
Large supermarkets can sell items cheap because they have a high turnover of stock. In the same way, the largest flying training facility also has economy of scale.
Choosing something that is "the cheapest" that still attains a recognized international standard is perfectly valid.
For example, a dust mask with a BSI kite mark bought from a pound shop is just as good for the purpose as one bought for £3.99 from a large DIY store with large orange lettering.
Buying comparable product without recognized standards though is very difficult. That's why standards were created.
Large supermarkets can sell items cheap because they have a high turnover of stock. In the same way, the largest flying training facility also has economy of scale.
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From: Malmesbury VRP
I don't want to start an argument..but why do you think it is the cheapest?
I personaly don't think it is poor quality/service or standards. A lot of the Florida schools are similar in price. OBA stands out more as it throws in a load of niggly extras.
1) It includes accomodation.
2) It includes exam fees.
3) Free airport transfers
Florida is cheaper because:
1) Cheaper fuel
2) No landing fees
3) FAA is much much more GA friendly and cheaper
I personaly don't think it is poor quality/service or standards. A lot of the Florida schools are similar in price. OBA stands out more as it throws in a load of niggly extras.
1) It includes accomodation.
2) It includes exam fees.
3) Free airport transfers
Florida is cheaper because:
1) Cheaper fuel
2) No landing fees
3) FAA is much much more GA friendly and cheaper
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From: England
is this thread a windup ? if your friend has completed this, why not ask him !
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well im sorry if it pisses you off, me using this site for its very purpose, to gather information and get advise. yes i have talked to him (obviously) but before i pay out thousands of euro i want to get a few peoples views mate....
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From: london
and my friend pitts2112 iv asked a question looking for advise not abuse from you who doesn't even know me. i work in the airline industry, safety is the most important thing in my day to day life. and has anyone ever died in OBA while flying? there are rules for all aircraft op's and they must operate under them, the same as anyone else does. 