Can perform open heart surgery, not allowed to apply bandaid!
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Originally Posted by ExSimGuy
Having flown thousands of hours in "heavies" - at 10 feet above the ground, I finally made my way to a C152 and was astounded as the instructor took off - at a speed which I thought unimaginable!
Very different!
Very different!
65 knots must have felt so slow - don't you "heavy" pilots need that just to taxy.
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For those who have so quickly leapt on the bandwagon of criticsm, why not re-read the text of MmWord's original post. He did not suggest that familiarity on type was not necessary and he did not suggest he should not do it.
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Fot those who replied by explainig the rules for revalidation - well done. For those whoe chose to criticise - well, take a good look inside.
GB
I naiively thought a couple of hours or so with an instructor, quick check and of you go,
but the requirements to revalidate ones PPL privilages are nothing short of amazing, that allied to the cost of private flying ...
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Interesting that M M Words who started this thread has not reappeared. He opened with the title
"Can perform open heart surgery, not allowed to apply band-aid!"
Which, I think is rather revealing!
It suggests that he equates airliner flying with open heart surgery and light aircraft flying with applying band-aid.
Many people have commented that all he needs to do is to pass a skill test to renew his SEP class rating; I'm sure that's what the CAA would have told him and it's what he could have found out for himself by reading LASORS or searching on-line. That's what the regulations say and, it's possible that some pilots may be able to step into an SEP aeroplane for the first time in many years and perform up to a suitable standard to pass the test. Many will require some refresher training and practice and a few will require a lot of training to get up to speed.
I don't doubt there are some training organisations who might want to over egg the pudding and take a large wad out of his wallet in the process but a savvy bloke ought to be able to spot when he is being taken for a ride.
However, if he turned up at my training facility with his "heart surgeon" attitude I'd send him away with a flea in his ear! I've flown with many pilots in "serious" aeroplanes who I wouldn't trust with sticking plaster and with just as many in SEP aircraft who were excellent pilots.
Ground Bound chooses two quotes from the original post which seem to me to be inconsistant. On the one hand, what is naieve about expecting to do a couple of training flights and a test? That is exactly what is required! MMWords doesn't say exactly what he finds amazing about the renewal requirements so it's difficult to know what he means by that comment. We all know about the cost of recreational flying so there's no need to say more on that!
I chose to criticise because, as I said, I find MMWord's choice of title for his post sugestive of an unhealthy attitude to flying small aeroplanes.
Sticking plaster indeed!
3 Point
PS; Yes, I do fly and teach on all sorts of aeroplanes from big to small, old to new; none of it is heart surgery but it does all require a degree of humility and an understanding of one's own limitations.
"Can perform open heart surgery, not allowed to apply band-aid!"
Which, I think is rather revealing!
It suggests that he equates airliner flying with open heart surgery and light aircraft flying with applying band-aid.
Many people have commented that all he needs to do is to pass a skill test to renew his SEP class rating; I'm sure that's what the CAA would have told him and it's what he could have found out for himself by reading LASORS or searching on-line. That's what the regulations say and, it's possible that some pilots may be able to step into an SEP aeroplane for the first time in many years and perform up to a suitable standard to pass the test. Many will require some refresher training and practice and a few will require a lot of training to get up to speed.
I don't doubt there are some training organisations who might want to over egg the pudding and take a large wad out of his wallet in the process but a savvy bloke ought to be able to spot when he is being taken for a ride.
However, if he turned up at my training facility with his "heart surgeon" attitude I'd send him away with a flea in his ear! I've flown with many pilots in "serious" aeroplanes who I wouldn't trust with sticking plaster and with just as many in SEP aircraft who were excellent pilots.
Ground Bound chooses two quotes from the original post which seem to me to be inconsistant. On the one hand, what is naieve about expecting to do a couple of training flights and a test? That is exactly what is required! MMWords doesn't say exactly what he finds amazing about the renewal requirements so it's difficult to know what he means by that comment. We all know about the cost of recreational flying so there's no need to say more on that!
I chose to criticise because, as I said, I find MMWord's choice of title for his post sugestive of an unhealthy attitude to flying small aeroplanes.
Sticking plaster indeed!
3 Point
PS; Yes, I do fly and teach on all sorts of aeroplanes from big to small, old to new; none of it is heart surgery but it does all require a degree of humility and an understanding of one's own limitations.
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I agree with 3 point on flying not being all that big a deal.
However on the other side of the coin it is amazing how difficult it is to find a flight instructor in the flying schools today that can give instruction on basic tailwheel airplanes..
So in defense of the guy that thinks its like surgery maybe he has a point..
If you are looking for tail wheel instruction one would think that any flight instructor would be capable of giving dual instruction on one.
However on the other side of the coin it is amazing how difficult it is to find a flight instructor in the flying schools today that can give instruction on basic tailwheel airplanes..
So in defense of the guy that thinks its like surgery maybe he has a point..
If you are looking for tail wheel instruction one would think that any flight instructor would be capable of giving dual instruction on one.
