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Originally Posted by justinmg
I take it they have insisted on a flight test.....
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Come on over!
As a retired airline pilot and flight school owner I can only hope that Canada avoids the tangle of rules that the EU seems to be inflicting on GA in the UK, we have many pilots from the UK come over to fly ,and yes some of the heavy metal drivers are a bit rusty none of them have ever bent one of our aircraft in seveteen years. I think the point is that none of us will launch a pilot in a $150,000 aircraft unless we feel they are safe, we simply dont need some twit on high to tell us who can fly, the insurance companies and the owners have too much at stake not to ensure its safe, the only real problem we have had is convincing a pilot who has spent his life living in the UK that you really do need ten days survival gear and a bear gun to fly over the bush {two killed this year already by pissed of bears}As an end note my wife and I were thinking of spending our dotage away from our Winters and moving to the UK, taking some of our aircraft with us, our first brush with the nedies runing aviation in the UK cured us of this plan!
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Many moons ago, me a low hours PPL in left hand seat of PA28, him a 747 driver with oodles of hours in the right hand seat and the two girl friends in the back. He seriously wanted to put the aircraft into a spin to show the girls how exhilerating it can be. Had to point out that it was probably the last thing we'd do. He was a good (?) pilot but not current on type and had forgotten how even a little plane can bite. Two hours with an instructor isn't a lot to avoid becoming a smoking hole (albeit a little one).
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Mark,
Its fine, as a US licence holder you have recip ppl rights anyway so long as you fly SE day vfr. You need a valid medical (JAA is fine) and to be within US biennial flight review rules (two years or have done any FAA test). You can also fly in Ireland and many other ICAO states which allow automatic recip. Got to hand it to the yanks, the've still managed to keep a lot of b.s. out of keeping your licence.
Mark,
Its fine, as a US licence holder you have recip ppl rights anyway so long as you fly SE day vfr. You need a valid medical (JAA is fine) and to be within US biennial flight review rules (two years or have done any FAA test). You can also fly in Ireland and many other ICAO states which allow automatic recip. Got to hand it to the yanks, the've still managed to keep a lot of b.s. out of keeping your licence.
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Well, having had an "awakening" sitting in a PA 28 as a passenger but flying on my licence with a US military Jet pilot in the next seat, I can fully understand why there should be an hour or two's check out. Apparently the effect of a propeller in place of a jet engine has an entirely different effect on take off requiring some rudder input. I am additionally informed that the climb rate of a PA 28 is much less than that of a jet and requires a much lower nose attitude, apparently, there are diffences on engine management too! The landing was an experience when my nerve finally went and I called "I have control" to avoid a flare at 20' above the runway. I'd prefer to take an Alka Seltzer and a couple of tranquilisers before repeating the experience or maybe I will do the wise thing and just won't repeat the experience!
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Sensible, you are right!
We to have experienced such problems,But if you own the hardware you aint going to let the guy fly it untill you have a gut feeling that he/she is safe,my insurance bill is a Kings ransom,My good lady and myself are not going to launch you across the"Great White North" if we dont think you will bring our aircraft back in one piece, in the mean time, come on over ands see a great country!
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Maybe a wee bit off topic but how does a UK CAA (JAA) ATPL holder with B757/767 rating get an FAA licence?? Is there an easy way to do it? Not interested in working there only flying on PPL privelages.
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"I flew 5 flights (totalling 3 hrs 50 mins) before I felt back up to speed...."
Which part of that did you not understand? How exactly have I been had?
I bought an aeroplane that I had never flown before and did not wish to bend it on my first flight. All 5 flights were flown in my own aircraft and nobody tried to make me fly more than I thought I needed.
I have so far survived almost 50 years in aviation. You may continue to do the absolute minimum. That is your privilege.
"I flew 5 flights (totalling 3 hrs 50 mins) before I felt back up to speed...."
Which part of that did you not understand? How exactly have I been had?
I bought an aeroplane that I had never flown before and did not wish to bend it on my first flight. All 5 flights were flown in my own aircraft and nobody tried to make me fly more than I thought I needed.
I have so far survived almost 50 years in aviation. You may continue to do the absolute minimum. That is your privilege.
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Genghis, I've just read that report and I don't think it tells us very much. I think that if I got into a glorified hang glider with a lawn mower engine strapped to the back of it I would be dead pretty fast 
The pilot should have known better. He should have got some training.
The pilot should have known better. He should have got some training.
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Sure, but I don't see where the "high hour" bit comes into it. Anybody can get killed if nobody tells them the type has unusual behaviour.
The pilot had a BCPL, high total logbook hours but unverifiable currency.
The pilot had a BCPL, high total logbook hours but unverifiable currency.
Originally Posted by IO540
Genghis, I've just read that report and I don't think it tells us very much. I think that if I got into a glorified hang glider with a lawn mower engine strapped to the back of it I would be dead pretty fast
The pilot should have known better. He should have got some training.
The pilot should have known better. He should have got some training.
As for whether any type has unusual behaviour or not - there are many ways to find out. But it's up to the pilot in command to find out, not necessarily to anybody else to volunteer this (although one hopes that they might).
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Few years ago I let a 4 engine jet's captain fly my aircraft from the r/h seat, he nearly wrote it off during during landing with 18kts. X wind. After we got out of the aircraft he said that he thought that all aircraft are the same and said that this flight was a very good leason.
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I do flight training on different kinds of flying stuff and have found there is not really any one size fits all in aircraft handling skills.
There are those who are born naturals and can fly anything with very little dual, it goes down from there to those who just do not have the mechanical co-ordination and or ability to see the profile ahead of the machine and are at best barely able to fly period.
Thank jebus I'm getting out of aviation as the morons who are dreaming up the ever expanding rules are destroying any pleasure that flying has.
In defense of the heavy iron guys they are no different than the rest, there are good and not so good.
But for sure the decision on allowing any pilot to fly any flying device should rest with the check pilot, not some slobbering cretin sitting in some government cubicle just making rules to expand their network of drones.
I bet this will piss off some that read my thoughts on this subject.
Chuck E.
There are those who are born naturals and can fly anything with very little dual, it goes down from there to those who just do not have the mechanical co-ordination and or ability to see the profile ahead of the machine and are at best barely able to fly period.
Thank jebus I'm getting out of aviation as the morons who are dreaming up the ever expanding rules are destroying any pleasure that flying has.
In defense of the heavy iron guys they are no different than the rest, there are good and not so good.
But for sure the decision on allowing any pilot to fly any flying device should rest with the check pilot, not some slobbering cretin sitting in some government cubicle just making rules to expand their network of drones.
I bet this will piss off some that read my thoughts on this subject.
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he nearly wrote it off during during landing with 18kts
I am not sure that qualifies as a good example, as very few high-hour GA pilots would be able to land a normal spamcan with an 18kt xwind. That actually takes a lot of skill to do. And I fly a plane with a 25kt max demo xw.
I am not sure that qualifies as a good example, as very few high-hour GA pilots would be able to land a normal spamcan with an 18kt xwind. That actually takes a lot of skill to do. And I fly a plane with a 25kt max demo xw.