Eating While Flying?
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If you eat to many high fibre snacks, you might find that you need to 'go' fairly quicky. I dont think you can get a turd version or a pi$$ bag. Stick to low fibre high sugar snacks, like fairy cakes and youll be ok. I find the ones with the little wings stuck into butterscotch icing are the best by far.
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Well, I've discovered at least two niche products from this thread !
1) Edible microphones
no more worries about food rule #1 !
and
2) 'Standby' announcement
A PTT button with a precanned "station calling (callsign).., standby" message for those awkward moments.
ahhhh. what more could one want in cruise ?
1) Edible microphones
no more worries about food rule #1 !
and
2) 'Standby' announcement
A PTT button with a precanned "station calling (callsign).., standby" message for those awkward moments.
ahhhh. what more could one want in cruise ?
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No Pilots must not eat while at the controls, its stupid, dangerous and outlawed by the ANO - unless in Class G airspace, in sight of the surface, day VFR only....
Ask a silly question and get a silly answer
Myself, I've been known to munch on the remains of a "Giant Burger" from one of the Casino's in Laughlin NV, though it did start to get a bit rank after a few hours of sitting in the sun.
Ask a silly question and get a silly answer
Myself, I've been known to munch on the remains of a "Giant Burger" from one of the Casino's in Laughlin NV, though it did start to get a bit rank after a few hours of sitting in the sun.
Avoid imitations
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Curry can be a problem. The engineers don't like poppadum crumbs in the avionics and that last little bit of rice is difficult to pick up on the ILS without taking both hands off the controls.
I personally find roast turkey difficult, as it is't easy to get sufficient elbow room in most cockpits to carve the bird.
Peas and sprouts tend to roll off the plate in severe turbulence. Sweetcorn is better, as it will stay put at all but the highest yaw rates. Roast potatoes are best cut in half for the same reason.
Goujons of plaice are a good snack as they can be eaten without trouble during missed approaches, whilst retuning navaids etc. Do be careful with the tartare sauce as it can badly stain the letdown plates, especially Jeppesens, making them almost unreadable. Please use napkins for this purpose.
Pilots should take SMALL bites of food only. Too large a mouthful may require some food to be spat out before replying to ATC. This is very noticeable when a BA pilot speaks, he will often say "THE" as he spits out a piece of poached salmon or similar before announcing his callsign. Very unseemly in my opinion - this sort of thing should be prevented by suitable advice in the operations manual.
Finally, from my own personal experience, please take heed of the following Health and Safety Warning!
Ensure you have moved on from the consomme course before attempting aerobatics.
I personally find roast turkey difficult, as it is't easy to get sufficient elbow room in most cockpits to carve the bird.
Peas and sprouts tend to roll off the plate in severe turbulence. Sweetcorn is better, as it will stay put at all but the highest yaw rates. Roast potatoes are best cut in half for the same reason.
Goujons of plaice are a good snack as they can be eaten without trouble during missed approaches, whilst retuning navaids etc. Do be careful with the tartare sauce as it can badly stain the letdown plates, especially Jeppesens, making them almost unreadable. Please use napkins for this purpose.
Pilots should take SMALL bites of food only. Too large a mouthful may require some food to be spat out before replying to ATC. This is very noticeable when a BA pilot speaks, he will often say "THE" as he spits out a piece of poached salmon or similar before announcing his callsign. Very unseemly in my opinion - this sort of thing should be prevented by suitable advice in the operations manual.
Finally, from my own personal experience, please take heed of the following Health and Safety Warning!
Ensure you have moved on from the consomme course before attempting aerobatics.
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Apparently EASA have decided that talking whilst flying (even hands free) is dangerous as well so from now on before you answer ATC when they call you will be required to pull over to a safe part of the sky and of course shut down the engine.....
I find things like a CamelBak full of your favourite refreshment work well. If you are clever with the tube & mouthpiece you can drink without letting go of anything!
I also find sandwiches made with lots of mayonnaise are best as it stops the contents spreading around the cockpit.
As a glider pilot as well, I have to think about getting rid of fluid too but that's another story.
I also find sandwiches made with lots of mayonnaise are best as it stops the contents spreading around the cockpit.
As a glider pilot as well, I have to think about getting rid of fluid too but that's another story.
Have you tried one of those Muller yogurts, you know, the ones where you have to fold the carton in two, which tips the bread crumbs into the yogurt.
That can be quite fiddly, especially on finals, while trying to apply full flap on a PA28.
That can be quite fiddly, especially on finals, while trying to apply full flap on a PA28.
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Chopsticks are great, because they leave one hand free to deal with the flaps, throttle, stick etc and if you sideslip a little, you can roll those last last few peas onto them.
I can see a whole new market springing up for cup holders, fold-away tray and cockpit-tidies.
I can see a whole new market springing up for cup holders, fold-away tray and cockpit-tidies.
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Swordfish aircrew would peel and split an orange, and then wrap it in brown paper to be stowed in a handy pocket/etc, I read in an old book I bought.
Done it myself since (the orange bit, not flown the Stringbag) and found it very easy to eat one handed, and extremely refreshing!
Done it myself since (the orange bit, not flown the Stringbag) and found it very easy to eat one handed, and extremely refreshing!
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I was going to mention a few points myself that have already been mentioned...the bag of crisps thing has frightened more than a few pilots over time. Not as much as a Fouger Magister pilot I was talking to whose shaving foam exploded in the non pressurised bit on the shelf behind the back cockpit...
The microphone issue is a good one...I've hit the microphone with the bottle/can several times. All too easy to forget it's there!
Chewing gum...I've recommended to several people that gum not be chewed while flying, in case of sudden turbulence or suchlike.
Sugar? I once bought a box full of doughnuts down in Key West to eat as breakfast/lunch on my flight back to Winter Haven. I managed about half. The rest took me another 2 days.
Paul
The microphone issue is a good one...I've hit the microphone with the bottle/can several times. All too easy to forget it's there!
Chewing gum...I've recommended to several people that gum not be chewed while flying, in case of sudden turbulence or suchlike.
Sugar? I once bought a box full of doughnuts down in Key West to eat as breakfast/lunch on my flight back to Winter Haven. I managed about half. The rest took me another 2 days.
Paul
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This is partly a cultural thing. Before we moved here from UK I never ate or drank in the car and didn't even consider it in GA context. However now I am, I'm afraid, pretty well N amercanised. I wear runners, well cheap imitations all the time and my family can't get to the other end of the vilage without taking a couple of cups of cofffee ad some malodourous snack with them.
When I was a kid we were driving back from Whitstable one late evening in my ranfather's new Sunbeam Talbot. Uncharacteristically we stopped to buy fish and chips in Rochester , the main road used to go right down the hill through the main street. The car smelt of food and vinegar for months and it became a standing joke in my family. I don't think I ate anything more that a boiled sweet in a car until I moved here 40 years later.
My cockpit is so noisy I had to turn the mic gain all the way to the bump stop just to cut out as much noise as possible, (there is no adjustment on the actual radio input) I spent a whole month looking for the source of a particular squeaking that seemingly was tied to an engine fluctuation until I worked out it was my chewing gum and the echo from my mouth opening when I chewed. I know I close my mouth when I chew in company, apparently I am a bit slck jawed when I'm by myself! (Or maybe just gormless.)
When I was a kid we were driving back from Whitstable one late evening in my ranfather's new Sunbeam Talbot. Uncharacteristically we stopped to buy fish and chips in Rochester , the main road used to go right down the hill through the main street. The car smelt of food and vinegar for months and it became a standing joke in my family. I don't think I ate anything more that a boiled sweet in a car until I moved here 40 years later.
My cockpit is so noisy I had to turn the mic gain all the way to the bump stop just to cut out as much noise as possible, (there is no adjustment on the actual radio input) I spent a whole month looking for the source of a particular squeaking that seemingly was tied to an engine fluctuation until I worked out it was my chewing gum and the echo from my mouth opening when I chewed. I know I close my mouth when I chew in company, apparently I am a bit slck jawed when I'm by myself! (Or maybe just gormless.)
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Here is a report from a court case in Ireland which has relevance;
Drink of Coca Cola caused crash
Galway driver David Colleran (27) made the national news when he appeared in court on a charge of careless driving in the city late last year. Mr Colleran told the court that he suffered a "vaso-vagal attack", brought on by drinking Coca Cola. This, he said, caused him to lose consciousness for a brief period, with the result that his SUV crossed the road into two oncoming cars. A medical report linked the pain experienced by Mr Colleran to the gas in the Coca Cola. Judge Mary Fahy acknowledged that fizzy drinks have been known to cause some people to feel faint, but convicted the accused of careless driving and fined him €250.
I eat when I'm hungry and drink when I'm dry and if the moonshine don't kill me I'll live til I die.
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Drink of Coca Cola caused crash
Galway driver David Colleran (27) made the national news when he appeared in court on a charge of careless driving in the city late last year. Mr Colleran told the court that he suffered a "vaso-vagal attack", brought on by drinking Coca Cola. This, he said, caused him to lose consciousness for a brief period, with the result that his SUV crossed the road into two oncoming cars. A medical report linked the pain experienced by Mr Colleran to the gas in the Coca Cola. Judge Mary Fahy acknowledged that fizzy drinks have been known to cause some people to feel faint, but convicted the accused of careless driving and fined him €250.
I eat when I'm hungry and drink when I'm dry and if the moonshine don't kill me I'll live til I die.
regards,
DFC
Except that the a/c isn't going to swerve all over the sky if you swallow something the wrong way & have to cough for a bit. Nor does it have oncoming traffic separated by only a few metres.
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Tinstaafl,
Read the report again. The guy lost consciousness. Do you seriously think that an incapacitated pilot is not a problem?........This had nothing to do with something going down the wrong way, this was a person who had such pain that they lost consciousness (so the reports said).
What the report fails to say is how long the effects and pain lasted.
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DFC
Read the report again. The guy lost consciousness. Do you seriously think that an incapacitated pilot is not a problem?........This had nothing to do with something going down the wrong way, this was a person who had such pain that they lost consciousness (so the reports said).
What the report fails to say is how long the effects and pain lasted.
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DFC
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If you're flying with a passenger/co-pilot I find it nice to be thoughtful - Having a curry the night before can prove hazardous to flight-deck relations, could lead to a breakdown in CRM and/or possible resultant legal action against the ruby shop that dispensed the offending meal for 'Failure to display clear warnings of dangers to flight crew if consumed less than 18 hours before flight'.
That being said, back in the days when I was enjoying my initial training for my PPL in San Diego, my instructor came out for the flight with a portion of fries and a carne asada burrito. The winds aloft were pretty strong on that flight.......
That being said, back in the days when I was enjoying my initial training for my PPL in San Diego, my instructor came out for the flight with a portion of fries and a carne asada burrito. The winds aloft were pretty strong on that flight.......
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Remember once on a longish late evening flight back from Rotterdam to eastern seaboard UK – tea consisted of a mean shank of ham on the bone. Dropped the dam thing down amongst the rudder pedals during some turbulence. You cannot believe what lives down amongst the rudder pedals. After a very awkward retrieval - one was removing bits of washers, pen tops, grit and sh(one)t –from ones dentition - for days afterwards.
Moral: always have a peek outside and avoid dark grey ominous stuff before masticating.
Moral: always have a peek outside and avoid dark grey ominous stuff before masticating.
