Moderation policies?
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Moderation policies?
Looks like I've had two posts removed from the military aviation forum.
So I am mere SLF, but I thought I had made some valid points without including anything that isn't public knowledge, or purely historical. After all, how could I? And meanwhile I am sure that the "interested parties" would have downloaded my posts the instant they were published. Or have I misunderstood how moderation works? Every post needs approval before being publicly visible?
I've been reading and occasionally posting for over twenty years. I've been "cancelled" before.
I understand that this is meant to be a resource for professional pilots, which is why I mostly keep quiet.
It is *incredibly* frustrating to not know the "why" of a moderation - or that it has happened!
It would not be hard (I'm a programmer) to *notify* a poster if a post was cancelled. It would be trivial to let the poster know *why* it was removed. Obvs., a slight additional burden on the moderator. But one can imagine a drop-down box of reasons.
And then my posts are deleted from my own "my posts" list?
Surely it would only be polite to indicate that the posts were made, then cancelled?
The SLF on here provide a valuable input, giving engineering and legal (to name but two) perspectives.
So I am mere SLF, but I thought I had made some valid points without including anything that isn't public knowledge, or purely historical. After all, how could I? And meanwhile I am sure that the "interested parties" would have downloaded my posts the instant they were published. Or have I misunderstood how moderation works? Every post needs approval before being publicly visible?
I've been reading and occasionally posting for over twenty years. I've been "cancelled" before.
I understand that this is meant to be a resource for professional pilots, which is why I mostly keep quiet.
It is *incredibly* frustrating to not know the "why" of a moderation - or that it has happened!
It would not be hard (I'm a programmer) to *notify* a poster if a post was cancelled. It would be trivial to let the poster know *why* it was removed. Obvs., a slight additional burden on the moderator. But one can imagine a drop-down box of reasons.
And then my posts are deleted from my own "my posts" list?
Surely it would only be polite to indicate that the posts were made, then cancelled?
The SLF on here provide a valuable input, giving engineering and legal (to name but two) perspectives.
25F... I've been contemplating posting something similar for a few months now – but I’ve held myself back because of the number of times people have raised the point that places like pprune don’t need to explain themselves, or even have clear rules for participants. But, like you I’ve become more confused of late as to the criteria moderators use for deciding to remove posts.
Clearly any site like pprune can set its rules as it sees fit, but that’s entirely different than not making it clear what those rules are, or what criteria are being used for moderation. As you suggest, it would be quite simple to have a process wherein moderators simply need to click a box and the poster gets a standard email or message explaining why an action was taken.
In my case, I have had several recent posts removed thought I don’t believe I wrote anything rude, or inflammatory, or otherwise not conducive to reasonable dialogue. If I knew why I was censored I would certainly use that knowledge before posting again, but, as you suggest, if we don’t know why a post was removed, how can we comply?
The most recent post removed (yesterday) was simply pointing out (on the “Russia, Ukraine, and possible unpleasantries” thread) that another poster had misunderstood a previous post about referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine. Poof – post gone, even though others referred to the fact that my clarification helped them understand that referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine is offensive to Ukrainians.
I’m an aviation professional who has worked in this wonderful, challenging, rewarding, field for more than 50 years, in more than 30 countries, and I thoroughly enjoy pprune much of the time. But sadly, I think the moderation, and the rules around that, need to be clearer and more consistent.
Clearly any site like pprune can set its rules as it sees fit, but that’s entirely different than not making it clear what those rules are, or what criteria are being used for moderation. As you suggest, it would be quite simple to have a process wherein moderators simply need to click a box and the poster gets a standard email or message explaining why an action was taken.
In my case, I have had several recent posts removed thought I don’t believe I wrote anything rude, or inflammatory, or otherwise not conducive to reasonable dialogue. If I knew why I was censored I would certainly use that knowledge before posting again, but, as you suggest, if we don’t know why a post was removed, how can we comply?
The most recent post removed (yesterday) was simply pointing out (on the “Russia, Ukraine, and possible unpleasantries” thread) that another poster had misunderstood a previous post about referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine. Poof – post gone, even though others referred to the fact that my clarification helped them understand that referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine is offensive to Ukrainians.
I’m an aviation professional who has worked in this wonderful, challenging, rewarding, field for more than 50 years, in more than 30 countries, and I thoroughly enjoy pprune much of the time. But sadly, I think the moderation, and the rules around that, need to be clearer and more consistent.
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25F... I've been contemplating posting something similar for a few months now – but I’ve held myself back because of the number of times people have raised the point that places like pprune don’t need to explain themselves, or even have clear rules for participants. But, like you I’ve become more confused of late as to the criteria moderators use for deciding to remove posts.
Clearly any site like pprune can set its rules as it sees fit, but that’s entirely different than not making it clear what those rules are, or what criteria are being used for moderation. As you suggest, it would be quite simple to have a process wherein moderators simply need to click a box and the poster gets a standard email or message explaining why an action was taken.
In my case, I have had several recent posts removed thought I don’t believe I wrote anything rude, or inflammatory, or otherwise not conducive to reasonable dialogue. If I knew why I was censored I would certainly use that knowledge before posting again, but, as you suggest, if we don’t know why a post was removed, how can we comply?
The most recent post removed (yesterday) was simply pointing out (on the “Russia, Ukraine, and possible unpleasantries” thread) that another poster had misunderstood a previous post about referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine. Poof – post gone, even though others referred to the fact that my clarification helped them understand that referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine is offensive to Ukrainians.
I’m an aviation professional who has worked in this wonderful, challenging, rewarding, field for more than 50 years, in more than 30 countries, and I thoroughly enjoy pprune much of the time. But sadly, I think the moderation, and the rules around that, need to be clearer and more consistent.
Clearly any site like pprune can set its rules as it sees fit, but that’s entirely different than not making it clear what those rules are, or what criteria are being used for moderation. As you suggest, it would be quite simple to have a process wherein moderators simply need to click a box and the poster gets a standard email or message explaining why an action was taken.
In my case, I have had several recent posts removed thought I don’t believe I wrote anything rude, or inflammatory, or otherwise not conducive to reasonable dialogue. If I knew why I was censored I would certainly use that knowledge before posting again, but, as you suggest, if we don’t know why a post was removed, how can we comply?
The most recent post removed (yesterday) was simply pointing out (on the “Russia, Ukraine, and possible unpleasantries” thread) that another poster had misunderstood a previous post about referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine. Poof – post gone, even though others referred to the fact that my clarification helped them understand that referring to Ukraine as “The” Ukraine is offensive to Ukrainians.
I’m an aviation professional who has worked in this wonderful, challenging, rewarding, field for more than 50 years, in more than 30 countries, and I thoroughly enjoy pprune much of the time. But sadly, I think the moderation, and the rules around that, need to be clearer and more consistent.
This topic is well worn and a bit of a search by the OP would have found it covered many times before, saving the need for yet another reply 🤔👍
