Anybody getting on a 737 Max?
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Initial investigation suggests warning lights had lit up on three flights in the month or so before the one where the door blew out.
‘Alaska Airlines decided to restrict the aircraft from long flights over water so that the plane “could return very quickly to an airport” if the warning light reappeared, said Jennifer Homendy, chair of the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).’
That’s scandalous really. How was the plane not grounded?
‘Alaska Airlines decided to restrict the aircraft from long flights over water so that the plane “could return very quickly to an airport” if the warning light reappeared, said Jennifer Homendy, chair of the US National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).’
That’s scandalous really. How was the plane not grounded?
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Not sufficient evidence - this fault not seen before and, usually, the suspect would be an outflow valve. Or, of course the old favourite, money?
How was the plane not grounded?
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Some years ago I told my family to NEVER get on an ATR
Or anything Russian including their airlines.
I subsequently added the 737 (MAD) Max to the family no fly list.
I also refused to allow my ATC son to fly on Chinooks or USAF aircraft, until the nagging got too much to tolerate and the Chinook issues had all gone quiet. The day after he flew on a Chinook, the RAF grounder their entire fleet. I rest my case.
Or anything Russian including their airlines.
I subsequently added the 737 (MAD) Max to the family no fly list.
I also refused to allow my ATC son to fly on Chinooks or USAF aircraft, until the nagging got too much to tolerate and the Chinook issues had all gone quiet. The day after he flew on a Chinook, the RAF grounder their entire fleet. I rest my case.
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I also have a list of airlines that are not to be touched. In my circle, I am known as an experienced traveller and often asked for advice. Thus far, after 58 years, no mistakes but you have to keep up to date.
A relative of mine in another country is involved with the airline world there and, with a visit being booked, I checked with him about internal flights. He told me which one to avoid, due to their (not public) reputation.
A relative of mine in another country is involved with the airline world there and, with a visit being booked, I checked with him about internal flights. He told me which one to avoid, due to their (not public) reputation.
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Bolts in need of "additional tightening" have been found during inspections of Boeing 737 Max 9s, United Airlines has said.
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Some years ago I told my family to NEVER get on an ATR
Or anything Russian including their airlines.
I subsequently added the 737 (MAD) Max to the family no fly list.
I also refused to allow my ATC son to fly on Chinooks or USAF aircraft, until the nagging got too much to tolerate and the Chinook issues had all gone quiet. The day after he flew on a Chinook, the RAF grounder their entire fleet. I rest my case.
Or anything Russian including their airlines.
I subsequently added the 737 (MAD) Max to the family no fly list.
I also refused to allow my ATC son to fly on Chinooks or USAF aircraft, until the nagging got too much to tolerate and the Chinook issues had all gone quiet. The day after he flew on a Chinook, the RAF grounder their entire fleet. I rest my case.
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there is one aircraft that I never fancy riding again is the LET 410
being on a few and I really wasn't keen and quite a few of it lost in the developing world for one reason or another
Don't laugh but this comes from someone fmworking with British Midlands who worked with the SH 330 and 360 bread van shoe boxes at Heathrow regularly ten times a day Birmingham and East Midlands
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If there were any of that present this thread would be very short indeed.
I'd sooner rely on industry experts and regulators than a bunch of self-appointed ex-spurt passengers who deem their wildly irrational fantasies on risk assessment and aircraft design superior to that of real experts.
Sorry to burden the thread with unnecessary complications like common sense or reality...
I'd sooner rely on industry experts and regulators than a bunch of self-appointed ex-spurt passengers who deem their wildly irrational fantasies on risk assessment and aircraft design superior to that of real experts.
Sorry to burden the thread with unnecessary complications like common sense or reality...
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You are welcome to your opinion meleagertoo just as all the other people in this forum. If someone chooses not to use a particular company for their own personal reasons? That is fine. Bear in mind that when some products are recommended, they turn out not to be so good. I am not just referring to aircraft.
Yes, you do have more direct experience than those that Pax but, people will always make choices for a multiplicity of reasons. Please stay and contribute to the cabin.
Yes, you do have more direct experience than those that Pax but, people will always make choices for a multiplicity of reasons. Please stay and contribute to the cabin.
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So if you’ve booked a package holiday to a European destination with TUI or even Ryanair and a 737 Max turns up what are you going to do? I doubt any insurance company would pay out if you refused to fly.
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Much of the debate seems to be specifically about the 737 Max 9. Do you think the scope of concern should be widened to include all 737 Max aircraft ? I don't know what the right answer is
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I appreciate that this generally about the 737 Max 9 but several on here have made it clear they wouldn’t fly on a 737 Max which I presume they mean the 8 series.
On a different note I wonder how this will affect t the certification of the series 10 Max.
On a different note I wonder how this will affect t the certification of the series 10 Max.
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I don't book anyone who flies the Max, just in case of this eventuality.
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If there were any of that present this thread would be very short indeed.
I'd sooner rely on industry experts and regulators than a bunch of self-appointed ex-spurt passengers who deem their wildly irrational fantasies on risk assessment and aircraft design superior to that of real experts.
Sorry to burden the thread with unnecessary complications like common sense or reality...
I'd sooner rely on industry experts and regulators than a bunch of self-appointed ex-spurt passengers who deem their wildly irrational fantasies on risk assessment and aircraft design superior to that of real experts.
Sorry to burden the thread with unnecessary complications like common sense or reality...
The history of the Max is extraordinarily shoddy. So yes. I’ll rely on what I see and hear. And make my own decisions. The notion that the ‘real’ experts can never be wrong is exactly what gets people killed.
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