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My 707 time was all on 320C and from around 1970 - 77 with the last being a BCAL ABC charter to JFK via Belfast as an exchange student.
I agree back then the seats did seem bigger though that could because we have got bigger 😉. However I do think you are probably correct after walking round the inside of a VC10 at Duxford, indeed they seem more comfortable than the Concord seat I sat in at a business dinner.
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Mr Mac
My 707 time was all on 320C and from around 1970 - 77 with the last being a BCAL ABC charter to JFK via Belfast as an exchange student.
I agree back then the seats did seem bigger though that could because we have got bigger 😉. However I do think you are probably correct after walking round the inside of a VC10 at Duxford, indeed they seem more comfortable than the Concord seat I sat in at a business dinner.
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Mr Mac
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My first on the VC10 was 59 years ago this month. Last was in 1971, I think. I have no memory of the internal sound level as I was too excited! I do remember the external sound of seeing family off at JNB {1967-1974}.

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Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.




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Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.
It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.
The last timetable listed for BEA was in 1968, https://www.timetableimages.com/ttim...6/be686-27.jpg , when BEA was flying that route with a Trident. Then there's a ten year gap with no timetables contributed to the site by readers.
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Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.


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I think definitely 1-11 as they were associated with Manchester for many years from 1960,s through to 1980,s. I don’t remember many BEA / BA Trident operations from Manchester but I do remember flying on one to Palma with BEA but I believe that flight stated in Glasgow and would be around 1970 as we were back as a family in UK to see relations and went on holiday to Mallorca. I do recall the outbound A/C had traditional BEA livery and return had the Blue tail and Flag.
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Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.
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The Rev Richard Coles posted today:
Want to create a drama at the airport?
Simply try to get a Black Pudding from the Isle of Lewis through security. The scanner thinks it is Semtex.
Simply try to get a Black Pudding from the Isle of Lewis through security. The scanner thinks it is Semtex.
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Am posting here as well as in the RyanAir thread as they aim to make a wider target. Which is not unusual ...
Ryanair calls for limit of two alcoholic drinks at airports in Europe
I doubt that they 'fail to understand ...' why airports need to make more money from passengers and who they learnt that from.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...orts-in-europe
Ryanair calls for limit of two alcoholic drinks at airports in Europe
Airline asks authorities to impose new curbs as it seeks to recover €15,000 in costs related to diverted flight
The airline has called on European authorities to bring in new curbs on alcohol to stop passengers getting drunk before boarding a plane.
Airlines reserve the right to deny boarding to anyone they deem to be excessively intoxicated. However, Ryanair now wants airports to require boarding passes be shown when passengers purchase alcohol at airport bars and pubs as they are in duty free shops.
“We fail to understand why passengers at airports are not limited to two alcoholic drinks (using their boarding pass in exactly the same way they limit duty free sales), as this would result in safer and better passenger behaviour on board aircraft, and a safer travel experience for passengers and crews all over Europe,”the airline said on Monday.
“During flight delays, passengers are consuming excess alcohol at airports without any limit on purchase or consumption,” it added.
The airline has called on European authorities to bring in new curbs on alcohol to stop passengers getting drunk before boarding a plane.
Airlines reserve the right to deny boarding to anyone they deem to be excessively intoxicated. However, Ryanair now wants airports to require boarding passes be shown when passengers purchase alcohol at airport bars and pubs as they are in duty free shops.
“We fail to understand why passengers at airports are not limited to two alcoholic drinks (using their boarding pass in exactly the same way they limit duty free sales), as this would result in safer and better passenger behaviour on board aircraft, and a safer travel experience for passengers and crews all over Europe,”the airline said on Monday.
“During flight delays, passengers are consuming excess alcohol at airports without any limit on purchase or consumption,” it added.
https://www.theguardian.com/business...orts-in-europe


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Perhaps if the likes of Ryanair paid a little more for the airport services then airports which have large exposure to budget airlines would not have to rely on alcohol / duty free and parking charges to make a profit.
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Perhaps if the likes of Ryanair paid a little more for the airport services then airports which have large exposure to budget airlines would not have to rely on alcohol / duty free and parking charges to make a profit.
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As per SOP, RyanAir are getting their point of view in first. Does not matter the history behind the current situation, or how one might change practice across hundreds of airports - just shout at the press. If you need to blame someone later ...





