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Old 21st December 2024 | 16:01
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My 707 time was all on 320C and from around 1970 - 77 with the last being a BCAL ABC charter to JFK via Belfast as an exchange student.

I agree back then the seats did seem bigger though that could because we have got bigger 😉. However I do think you are probably correct after walking round the inside of a VC10 at Duxford, indeed they seem more comfortable than the Concord seat I sat in at a business dinner.

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Old 21st December 2024 | 16:04
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My first on the VC10 was 59 years ago this month. Last was in 1971, I think. I have no memory of the internal sound level as I was too excited! I do remember the external sound of seeing family off at JNB {1967-1974}.
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Old 9th January 2025 | 12:14
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Just watching the Chicago Midway webcam and spotted this Southwest special livery....very snazzy




Certainly one of the more unusual liveries around.
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Old 9th January 2025 | 13:08
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Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.

It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.
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Old 9th January 2025 | 13:42
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MAN-BRU then was probably a Vanguard, or possibly BAC 111
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Old 9th January 2025 | 13:56
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Originally Posted by Helol
Here's a question. I first flew around 1973/4 ish... I flew alone from MAN-BRU, when I was 8/9 yrs old. It was BA, but I may also have flown SABENA (which I did in later years). What used to be said about them? 'Such A Bad Experience Never Again' Well, I liked Sabena.

It 'may' have been with BEA, rather than BA... but my question is, what type of ac would I have flown on...? I can't remember. The only flights I remember were the BA 747 flights down to JNB from 1975.
Normally I would point you at https://www.timetableimages.com but there is a paucity of images from the period around the BEA/BA handover, 1 April 1974. The closest in date I can find is https://www.vc10.net/Files/BA_1978-1979Timetableno1.pdf , when the route was flown by a BAC 1-11. (Page 26)

The last timetable listed for BEA was in 1968, https://www.timetableimages.com/ttim...6/be686-27.jpg , when BEA was flying that route with a Trident. Then there's a ten year gap with no timetables contributed to the site by readers.

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Old 9th January 2025 | 15:48
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BAC 1-11 out of MAN is almost certain for BA and 737 200 to MAN. 1974-5 a time of transition away from the earlier generations Caravelles, Comets, 727-100 s etc
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Old 9th January 2025 | 17:17
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Man-BRU BA wd be a 1-11 most likely , Sabena possibly 737-200 or F27 Caraveeles ahd gone a few years earlier along with 727100s
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Old 9th January 2025 | 18:32
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Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.
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Happiest of memories, a banking BAC 1-11 drowning out my teacher shortly after take off and banking from MAN and squinting through the window watching it!
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I think definitely 1-11 as they were associated with Manchester for many years from 1960,s through to 1980,s. I don’t remember many BEA / BA Trident operations from Manchester but I do remember flying on one to Palma with BEA but I believe that flight stated in Glasgow and would be around 1970 as we were back as a family in UK to see relations and went on holiday to Mallorca. I do recall the outbound A/C had traditional BEA livery and return had the Blue tail and Flag.

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Originally Posted by BonnieLass
Just watching the Chicago Midway webcam and spotted this Southwest special livery....very snazzy




Certainly one of the more unusual liveries around.
May I trouble you for the URL? I use an app on my iPad but it’s camera is outside the airport across a road.
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May I trouble you for the URL? I use an app on my iPad but it’s camera is outside the airport across a road.

No worries...currently very heavy snowfall but aircraft not affected

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Old 10th January 2025 | 14:08
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Justapax1 pax britanica Thanks both. Not sure why, but the 1-11 rings a bell. Great link to the timetables too.
The links are in a thread called 'Some websites you might enjoy' which is just about to scroll off the front page. Perhaps it could be pinned so it doesn't roll off the front page? I think only the moderator, S.o.S. can pin a thread.
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Old 10th January 2025 | 21:13
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The Rev Richard Coles posted today:
Want to create a drama at the airport?
Simply try to get a Black Pudding from the Isle of Lewis through security. The scanner thinks it is Semtex.
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Old 11th January 2025 | 14:17
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He's not alone with this ... LGW scanners do not approve of Christmas Puddings ...
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Old 12th January 2025 | 10:19
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Not to mention marmite is a liquid.
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Old 13th January 2025 | 16:23
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Am posting here as well as in the RyanAir thread as they aim to make a wider target. Which is not unusual ...

Ryanair calls for limit of two alcoholic drinks at airports in Europe

Airline asks authorities to impose new curbs as it seeks to recover €15,000 in costs related to diverted flight

The airline has called on European authorities to bring in new curbs on alcohol to stop passengers getting drunk before boarding a plane.

Airlines reserve the right to deny boarding to anyone they deem to be excessively intoxicated. However, Ryanair now wants airports to require boarding passes be shown when passengers purchase alcohol at airport bars and pubs as they are in duty free shops.

“We fail to understand why passengers at airports are not limited to two alcoholic drinks (using their boarding pass in exactly the same way they limit duty free sales), as this would result in safer and better passenger behaviour on board aircraft, and a safer travel experience for passengers and crews all over Europe,”the airline said on Monday.

“During flight delays, passengers are consuming excess alcohol at airports without any limit on purchase or consumption,” it added.
I doubt that they 'fail to understand ...' why airports need to make more money from passengers and who they learnt that from.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...orts-in-europe
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Old 13th January 2025 | 17:05
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Perhaps if the likes of Ryanair paid a little more for the airport services then airports which have large exposure to budget airlines would not have to rely on alcohol / duty free and parking charges to make a profit.
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Old 14th January 2025 | 02:18
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As per SOP, RyanAir are getting their point of view in first. Does not matter the history behind the current situation, or how one might change practice across hundreds of airports - just shout at the press. If you need to blame someone later ...
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