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Old 7th Sep 2021, 17:03
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UK Passport renewals

Like many I've received a text from Gov UK telling me to consider renewing my passport as the EU rules have changed and less than 6months validity will be refused entry. I'm sure that should I do it now, I won't be credited the half year validity on the next 10 year passport, or is that incorrect ?

I've also read and heard anecdotal evidence suggesting that 'due to covid' renewals are taking way longer than normal. Have any of the UK ppruners had experiences with regards to passport renewal in the last while ? Any info appreciated.
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 17:38
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I have not had to renew recently but you absolutely do not get the six month credit. It starts at zero again on date of renewal.
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 17:52
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The EU rules have not changed, they are in line with pretty much the rest of the world. So would good would that half year be for you, since it won't be recognised anywhere in the world?
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 18:28
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Gov advice

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b1878373.html

According to this GovUK are technically wrong but it's the kind of risk no one wants to take.
As for turnaround times, I renewed mine back in May (losing 6 months into the bargain) and it was back in less tha 3 weeks.
This stuff causes so much angst with travelling I think we tend to err on the side of caution and of course pay up
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 18:40
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Mine has a while to go but end of next year will see me have to apply again. In the past I have used the Post Office Service which is worth the money I think as they check the application and take responsibility for delivery .

I will loath to lose my Mauve EU for a pathetic Blue one, it looked good on the old cardboard. Another Brexit lie of course since we could have had Blue passports at any time inside the EU as one or two countries did.

Not sure what the value of a UK passport is anymore either
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 19:45
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A UK passport is still a remarkably powerful document (and I say this as a strong Remainer). Try comparing with other countries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...a_requirements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_r...quirements_map
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 05:10
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My passport renewal this year also took 3 weeks. Beware, the passport office requires your old passport to be sent to them before they will start processing your application. So, don’t plan a trip during the renewal process. The old and new passports are returned to you by courier separately.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 05:17
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Just renewed online and sent off my old passport yesterday. The automated website informs you that it could take up to 11 weeks to process. They asked for about £105 including ‘courier fees’ for a 35 page passport, more for a 90 page, though it did not mention the number of years as I recall. (?)
I hope they return the old one, suitably cancelled of course, with my current visa stamps, and I hope the mail is reliable and nothing gets purloined in the process.
( Edit, oops, just registered nightstop’s last observation.)
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 07:50
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Renewed at the end of July and took 3 - 4 weeks, but I am still waiting for the old passport. The most difficult aspect was taking a photograph which would be accepted by the computer - in my case it appeared that artificial lighting was essential.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 08:45
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My daughter renewed hers around 3 months ago. On line application with old passport sent by signed for delivery. Just over 2 weeks from application to getting both new uk and old eu passports back.
Old eu passport had 5 months left to run. New uk passport valid for 10 years from date of issue - the remaining 5 months of her old passport were not credited to her new passport. With the 6 months validity rule most people end up with a 9 1/2 year passport for regular travel habits.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 10:30
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Visits to the EU now get stamped in and out so a standard 35 page passport may no longer last 9 years.
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 10:36
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Thanks for all the replies, yes losing 6months from a 10 year passport is small-change in the grand scheme, but all the same if one pays for X, one expects X and not X-5%, especially as we are obliged to renew our passports due to entry requirements.

I'm glad to hear that the turnaround times are reasonable, but as noted it makes planning travel, or for that matter unexpected travel, difficult. Has anyone used an expedited service whilst renewing the UK passport and would share their experience ?
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 10:54
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A few years ago, I used the UK's passport-in-a-hurry service - I was travelling roughly every 2 weeks, my passport was looking rather scruffy and I was regularly having difficulty convincing immigration officials outside the UK that my passport was not a forgery.
You pay extra for the speed, but if your paperwork is all in order and you are prepared to go to a passport office in person, the system delivers what it promises

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Old 8th Sep 2021, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Dan Dare View Post
Visits to the EU now get stamped in and out so a standard 35 page passport may no longer last 9 years.
​​​​Living and working in Asia where visas and stamps are common place, a 90 page passport (pre covid) lasts 5 years if youre lucky!

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Old 8th Sep 2021, 16:34
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The 6 month validty has been around for some time. In 2016 we went to Australia with SQ. We made a 12 hour gap in SIN to make a quick city tour.

At T2 check in they threatened to not let me board. Oz was happy with less than 6 months in the passport (I had checked) but SIN was not. Not even for transit, as I might have done a runner - although with the SIN Police, no sane person would try it.

SQ made me sign a form to absolve them of responsibility, and I signed to be a good boy. Then I got my boarding pass. This was clearly a SOP for them as they had a supply of the forms! So my companion did the tour and I enjoyed Changi airport.

With the current problems of countries closing boarders, probably not worth the risk. I did use the one day service in London once and it was very good.

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Old 14th Sep 2021, 13:36
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6 View Post
...but if your paperwork is all in order and you are prepared to go to a passport office in person, the system delivers what it promises
Currently that is a problem. I was back in the UK for 5 weeks in Jul/Aug and planned to do the renewal then, but found that it was impossible to book a passport office appointment (for Newport or Liverpool which are the only offices of practicable distance for me). The Covid excuse as usual. Something you do not discover until near the end of the online application process.

Thankfully, I still had the minimum six months remaining to get back into Europe, and have now gone down the pricey overseas online route. However, not comfortable being without passport for up to 11 weeks - and in normal times this would have put a severe constraint on my normal business travel, though not so much currently.

Why do they have to receive the old passport before they begin processing? They have got my money for doing the job, so receipt of the old passport should only be a pre-requisite for actually sending out the new one. The process is long enough without wasting a whole week.
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 14:38
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All too true, sadly.

As I reluctantly agreed to send off my ‘old’ but still valid passport, to entrust it to the unreliable postal system, a questionnaire popped up asking me to evaluate their online service. Was I satisfied? No, I was (am) having kittens and butterflies together, in a foreign land without a valid passport for ‘up to eleven weeks’. I enjoyed clicking the keys, maybe.

How the xxxx can you evaluate a system that might just work if you’re lucky?
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 14:58
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Has anybody tried getting a colour photocopy of all the pages of a passport certified by a lawyer, and then sending that with a covering letter to HM Passport Office instead ? Especially when a person has a good reason for being unable to use the 1 week (or 1 day) fast-track services that HMPO offers in person, and can prove they are a frequent business traveller ?
I believe HMPO are reluctant to be seen as preventing British citizens from being able to work commercially if travel is part of their job
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 16:34
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Earlier this year my wife and I decided to renew our passports with about six months remaining on them.

We went to a Crown Post Office (Bristol in our case) having previously ascertained that no appointment was necessary. The counter clerk took our photographs and entered our details digitally on application forms. She then took possession of our old passports to return to the Passport Office. At the time the Press was warning that passport applications could take several months and the counter clerk told us it could take up to eleven weeks.

This was on a Wednesday. On return home the same day email acknowledgements of receipt of the digital applications awaited us (we don't have smart phones, only a desk top computer). On Thursday further emails told us the applications were being processed and on Friday I was told my new passport was on its way. It was delivered on Saturday just three days after I had applied for it. My wife's new passport arrived two days later on Monday. Our old passports were returned to us about a week later.

It cost a few quid more to go via the Post Office route but we considered it well worth the extra money.

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Old 14th Sep 2021, 17:07
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Apply for an second passport - I've never had any problems as long as my Company gave me a covering letter
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