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Old 16th Aug 2021, 10:20
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Anyone any idea where this change in the rules came from ? https://www.traveloffpath.com/uk-to-...rent-vaccines/

"According to the British government, in order to be fully vaccinated a traveler must have had two vaccines from the same brand, which means those who have mixed two different types of vaccine – an act that is growing in popularity in some parts of the world – will not be considered as fully vaccinated in the UK."

It appears to be manifestly stupid.
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Old 16th Aug 2021, 14:10
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mixed vaccines

Originally Posted by occasional View Post
Anyone any idea where this change in the rules came from ? https://www.traveloffpath.com/uk-to-...rent-vaccines/

"According to the British government, in order to be fully vaccinated a traveler must have had two vaccines from the same brand, which means those who have mixed two different types of vaccine – an act that is growing in popularity in some parts of the world – will not be considered as fully vaccinated in the UK."

It appears to be manifestly stupid.
In Germany it has been quite common to mix the vaccines so this will definitely cause an issue. I’m not certain how the British Government will view a booster shot either for people that have had mixed vaccines . I’ve no idea why the British government views mixed vaccines in this way? As I understand it the quarantine rules for mixed vaccines have been applied in England but not in Scotland as of yet.

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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 01:06
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Dozens of Covid travel test companies face removal from gov.uk website due to ‘misleading prices’
Health secretary has hit out at ‘private companies’ for ‘taking advantage of holidaymakers’
The inspection found that 82 – which makes up around 18 per cent of all day two and day eight providers listed – advertised far lower prices on gov.uk than those on offer when users clicked through to the brand’s official website.
The Independent (UK)
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 13:27
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At least one can get tests that are cheaper than the Scottish equivalent, which is a high-priced monopoly. I wonder why??
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Old 23rd Aug 2021, 16:24
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Here's a list of my check-in experiences around Europe and UK.
I travel in uniform as I travel for work. I carry all the paperwork etc.
I am a Brit that's double jabbed and got a PCR test for Portugal.

Day 1. LHR-GVA, Swiss Airlines.
"Have you done the Swiss PLF and can you show me?"
"Have you got proof of double jabs?"
yes to both.
"Great, here's your boarding pass"

Day 3 FCO-LPT, TAP
"Have you got proof of a double jab or PCR?
"Have you done the PT PLF?"
Yes to all 3, happy with the PCR test. (I got one done, "just in case")
"Great, here's your boarding pass.

Day 7 LPT-LHR BA
"I need your PLF"
"Where's your PCR and post flight test bookings?"
I am exempt, I don't need them to travel, but here's my PLF.
"you're not exempt, you need a PCR. I need to see your roster"
I am exempt, I am not with BA, please speak to your manager (Having witnessed the check in person be just as rude and abrupt to a dead heading BA captain.)
"Wait over there, I need to speak with my supervisor"
Cue deep breathing.
Riiiiiing. Short phone call later.
"ah Ms reddo, please come forward, all sorted, you are exempt, you may travel, here's your boarding card"

I caught up with the BA pilot later, he was shocked at how rude she was and we shared what happened. Eerily similar.
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 18:24
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This is about use within the UK at certain large gatherings. Will the govt then try to expand their us? More fun lies ahead ...
Vaccine passports to start in England this month
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 07:47
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So what will be the requirements for non UK residents? Can't see any method to accept anything other than NHS or UK vaccines passports?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 09:01
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Originally Posted by ZFT View Post
So what will be the requirements for non UK residents? Can't see any method to accept anything other than NHS or UK vaccines passports?
Very good point! The UK always seems so insular in such matters and seemingly cannot conceive that someone may have obtained the vaccination elsewhere, due either to residency or employment overseas. Similarly, I see no discussion of when the red list travel restrictions will be lifted, as I would like some UK leave! If matters were that serious, why is the list of exempt people as long as your arm?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 09:50
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Originally Posted by Squawk 6042 View Post
Very good point! The UK always seems so insular in such matters and seemingly cannot conceive that someone may have obtained the vaccination elsewhere, due either to residency or employment overseas. Similarly, I see no discussion of when the red list travel restrictions will be lifted, as I would like some UK leave! If matters were that serious, why is the list of exempt people as long as your arm?
Likewise, I too would like to take some UK leave . I haven't been back to the UK since January 2020 and I would dearly like to see my daughter again in another medium other than this bloody monitor screen!
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 17:35
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For those entering London with no one under 12 in their party, there's very little queuing. I arrived Saturday morning from Chicago on AA and at T3. Whisked to the e-gates. They did their thing and through in record time.
In case you didn't know, the PLF is now linked with your passport. For those with families, there was a pretty long queue, my estimate to be at least an hour long.
(You'll need to queue if you can't use the e-gates).

When you fill out the PLF, it'll have guidance about what's acceptable. (see gov.uk)
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Old 12th Sep 2021, 22:51
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Further to the announcement on 5th September,
Plans to introduce vaccine passports for access into nightclubs and large events in England will not go ahead, the health secretary has said. Sajid Javid told the BBC: "We shouldn't be doing things for the sake of it."
BBC 12th September

Not like the UK govt to change their mind ...
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Old 3rd Oct 2021, 16:57
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england#fully-vaccinated

"Travel from the rest of the world if you are fully vaccinated

From 4am Monday 4 October, you will qualify as fully vaccinated if you are vaccinated either:
  • under an approved vaccination programme in the UK, Europe, USA or UK vaccine programme overseas
  • with a full course of the Oxford/AstraZeneca, Pfizer BioNTech, Moderna or Janssen vaccines from a relevant public health body in Australia, Antigua and Barbuda, Barbados, Bahrain, Brunei, Canada, Dominica, Israel, Japan, Kuwait, Malaysia, New Zealand, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan or the United Arab Emirates (UAE)
Formulations of the 4 listed vaccines, such as AstraZeneca Covishield, AstraZeneca Vaxzevria and Moderna Takeda, qualify as approved vaccines.

You must have had a complete course of an approved vaccine at least 14 days before you arrive in England."

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Old 8th Oct 2021, 03:53
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Checking vaccine paperwork before flyinv

In the last 3 months, I have noticed some different approaches by airlines over checking vaccine paoerwork before flying to the UK
The likes of Easyjet and Ryanair are very happy to let you checkin online and issue a boarding pass. The gate agent then has to do a visual inspection of vaccine paperwork - if you fail, then flying is refused
Other airlines (Icelandair and Tarom) all insist those flying MUST be validated at checkin before they can be issued a boarding pass to go through security.
KLM allows you to checkin and clear security, but wants you to spend time at an intermediate airside gate for validation before they disclose the true aircraft gate.

If most pax fly with checked in luggage, I can understand airlines prefer validation before issuing a boarding pass. However, for those without checked in luggage, it's infuriating that the whole online checkin process is rendered largely useless and we all have to go back to arriving at an airport 2 hours in advance as part of a departing bank of flights when checkin gets really busy and queues are long

What's stopping network carriers from doing vaccine paperwork checks at the gate if flying light and allowing online checkin again ? Maybe have a policy that hold luggage requires validation at checkin prior to printing a traditional airport-issued boarding pass, but validation at gate otherwise. If LCCs can manage it, why not network carriers ? Vaccine paperwork before travelling isn't going to go away in a hurry. The wait-in-queue-for-ages experience is a strong incentive to avoid certain network carriers
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