Vaccine Passports
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This is about the UK
I see that, as mentioned above, the word Passport is being used in reference to domestic access to pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc. Irritating.
Further I read, as the UK govt promotes the idea of the domestic vaccination passport, many politicians (of all flavours) are against this. I can guess the press will do their usual of jumping on bandwagons and, as they drive along, muddying the waters - to mix metaphors.
I see that, as mentioned above, the word Passport is being used in reference to domestic access to pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc. Irritating.
Further I read, as the UK govt promotes the idea of the domestic vaccination passport, many politicians (of all flavours) are against this. I can guess the press will do their usual of jumping on bandwagons and, as they drive along, muddying the waters - to mix metaphors.
"Passport is being used in reference to domestic access to pubs, restaurants, cinemas etc. Irritating"
Not really - it's a document that allows you to travel - maybe only into your local pub but its still travel
Not really - it's a document that allows you to travel - maybe only into your local pub but its still travel
They're talking of using the current NHS track app - which you use to scan into restaurants etc
Paxing All Over The World
Wednesday 14th April after reopening: Some British Pubs and Restaurants have made it compulsory to order via a Smartphone App. No Smartphone = No Order. Whilst I have a Smartphone, I would not download such an App due to risk of data fraud. Unless someone in the group was willing to do that, I would go elsewhere.
There already exists the International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis. It is internationally recognised, and some countries already require to see one for certain diseases (e.g., yellow fever) before they will permit entry. I really don't see the problem with using that for travel.
As for pubs that require one to use an app... "other pubs are available". I don't take my mobile to the pub - partly because if I do, I just know that work will "only want a minute of my time", and partly so no b***er can nick it.
As for pubs that require one to use an app... "other pubs are available". I don't take my mobile to the pub - partly because if I do, I just know that work will "only want a minute of my time", and partly so no b***er can nick it.
When paper vaccine certificates were introduced and became formally recognised, photocopiers were very expensive and reproduction quality was cr*p. (I worked in a print/photocopy shop in the early 1980s)
Colour laser printers are cheap and readily found in people's homes. The image quality is excellent. The reason the UK moved to polymer banknote was because it became impossible for the average human to spot fake banknotes - even the hologram was often pretty convincing
Rich countries do not generally like passports which do not contain a chip - this makes them difficult to forge. Immigration policies sometimes make entry more difficult for passports without a chip
Rich countries will accept vaccine passports for immigration purposes only if they are difficult to forge. You should expect quarantine arrival policies to make entry *much* more difficult for vaccine certificates that are easy to forge
Colour laser printers are cheap and readily found in people's homes. The image quality is excellent. The reason the UK moved to polymer banknote was because it became impossible for the average human to spot fake banknotes - even the hologram was often pretty convincing
Rich countries do not generally like passports which do not contain a chip - this makes them difficult to forge. Immigration policies sometimes make entry more difficult for passports without a chip
Rich countries will accept vaccine passports for immigration purposes only if they are difficult to forge. You should expect quarantine arrival policies to make entry *much* more difficult for vaccine certificates that are easy to forge
"International Certificate of Vaccination or Prophylaxis" - and how many people have one and how often do you see it used anymore? I have one and I think the last time I used it was in Angola 9 years ago - and I still had to get our local agent to "deal with the formalities at the desk"
Vaccine passports should be something like a credit card or apple pay. You need to have a central "bank" account with verified data and this can be assessed and checked for "value" (vaccination, type, best before and such) from outside places. Any physical card or certificate can be faked and doesn't help much..
News article on fake Covid test certificates - you can be certain that paper vaccine passports will be faked as well
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/a...tificates.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/a...tificates.html
Paxing All Over The World
This looks like a half baked quickie 'solution'
Note the word DOCUMENT!! 
The Guardian
Millions of people in England could be provided with so-called Covid passports by 17 May to let them take holidays abroad this summer and potentially avoid quarantine when they reach their destination, the Guardian has learned.
The documents – likely to be different from domestic Covid certificates, which the government is working on separately – are still under development but should be made available before restrictions on international travel lift next month, sources said.
The documents – likely to be different from domestic Covid certificates, which the government is working on separately – are still under development but should be made available before restrictions on international travel lift next month, sources said.
The Guardian
Limited trial of French vaccine passport system just started - as the article states it's an "add on" to the existing Track and Trace smartphone app.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-reopen-travel
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-reopen-travel
The country’s year-old Covid-19 tracing app has been equipped with a new function to host virus test results and inoculation records and is being deployed on short-haul services between Paris and the Mediterranean island of Corsica, French Transport Minister Jean-Baptiste Djebbari said Tuesday.
Paxing All Over The World
Likewise now formally announced that the UK will use the NHS app as a passport.
The Guardian
The Guardian
International travellers will be asked to demonstrate their Covid vaccination and testing status using the NHS smartphone app, the UK government has confirmed, as the transport secretary promised to release a list of possible holiday destinations within a fortnight.
Grant Shapps said work had started on developing the app many people use to book appointments with their GPs so that it can show whether they have been vaccinated and tested for the virus.
Grant Shapps said work had started on developing the app many people use to book appointments with their GPs so that it can show whether they have been vaccinated and tested for the virus.
Tried the NHS one today - seems to be working fine.
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Tried again this morning with a different email address.
It decides that this is a new registration, almost completes
the process, and then decides that my internet conection
is not working. I have (and have tested) a 30mbs connection
to Bracknell, UK. This will not help when standing at some
far away foreign frontier, explaining that it should work.
It decides that this is a new registration, almost completes
the process, and then decides that my internet conection
is not working. I have (and have tested) a 30mbs connection
to Bracknell, UK. This will not help when standing at some
far away foreign frontier, explaining that it should work.