Vaccine Passports

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From: se england
I would have thought that it matters not a jot what the UK govt want its the other end that matters if Brits want to travel. Why not just accept the IATA or EU version . Oh that means there will be no friends and familly opportunities for Boris and Crime inc so that might be a problem.
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From: moraira,spain-Norfolk, UK
pax - quite right.
I gave up. The App is Kafka-esque and easy to get wrong.
I see design similarities with other Government projects.
ie designed to generate lots of lovely expensive changes,
and approved by an unaware management.
I would have thought that it matters not a jot what the UK govt want its the other end that matters if Brits want to travel. Why not just accept the IATA or EU version . Oh that means there will be no friends and familly opportunities for Boris and Crime inc so that might be a problem.
I see design similarities with other Government projects.
ie designed to generate lots of lovely expensive changes,
and approved by an unaware management.

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From: N. Ireland
Likewise now formally announced that the UK will use the NHS app as a passport.
The Guardian
The Guardian
The joys of union...
Paxing All Over The World


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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
The Independent reports today:
Try not to fall over in shock ... 
The NHS app may not be ready to be used for international travel when it resumes on 17 May, Number 10 has said.

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From: Cheshire, UK
So much for vaccine passports! Not mentioned or included in any of the green/amber/red country lists published yesterday. What happened to vaccine passports being a tool? Instead we subjugate to expensive PCR tests administered by Boris' cronies companies for hundreds a pop. Shambles.
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From: UK
So much for vaccine passports! Not mentioned or included in any of the green/amber/red country lists published yesterday. What happened to vaccine passports being a tool? Instead we subjugate to expensive PCR tests administered by Boris' cronies companies for hundreds a pop. Shambles.


Paxing All Over The World


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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
BBC web news
The boss of the world's busiest airport for international passengers has said Covid passports are the only way to restart mass foreign travel.
Dubai Airports chief executive Paul Griffiths told the BBC: "I don't think there is an alternative."
Critics of the digital systems argue they discriminate against those who cannot get vaccinated.
But Mr Griffiths says he is a complete supporter of the documents, which he says are "inevitable".
"I think the problem is not the vaccine passport and its discrimination. It's the need to roll things out and have a proper globally equitable vaccine programme," he said.
Dubai Airports chief executive Paul Griffiths told the BBC: "I don't think there is an alternative."
Critics of the digital systems argue they discriminate against those who cannot get vaccinated.
But Mr Griffiths says he is a complete supporter of the documents, which he says are "inevitable".
"I think the problem is not the vaccine passport and its discrimination. It's the need to roll things out and have a proper globally equitable vaccine programme," he said.

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From: UK
I'm reasonably OK with using my iPad but I've now had three attempts at downloading/signing in to the NHS App without success- it says the info I've posted is not clear and am waiting for approval after the third attempt.
My wife downloaded it, put in her email address, made a password, added her NHS Number and straight in - no photo of her passport/driving licence, no video, no chanting the four numbers - straight in !
My vaccination records are clearly shown on the Patient Access App - fortunately I'm not travelling in the very near future !
My wife downloaded it, put in her email address, made a password, added her NHS Number and straight in - no photo of her passport/driving licence, no video, no chanting the four numbers - straight in !
My vaccination records are clearly shown on the Patient Access App - fortunately I'm not travelling in the very near future !

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From: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
My second jab was on 21/4. Via GP surgery, who used a local small NHS facility, - not their surgery.
Did not show up on the App or Patient access on pc, until this morning.
Now showing on both.
App has security but was easy enough to set up on my android. Easier than the Virgin Money app, which is a real pain!!
Did not show up on the App or Patient access on pc, until this morning.
Now showing on both.
App has security but was easy enough to set up on my android. Easier than the Virgin Money app, which is a real pain!!
Paxing All Over The World


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From: Hertfordshire, UK.
Fake Covid vaccine and test certificate market is growing, researchers say
More than 1,200 vendors operating in the UK and worldwide, offering false documents for as little as £25
The Guardian
More than 1,200 vendors operating in the UK and worldwide, offering false documents for as little as £25
The Guardian

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From: Reading, UK
"The EU has already stated that it will be open to all inoculated visitors this summer. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen confirmed: "This will enable free movement and the travel to the European Union. Because one thing is clear: All 27 member states will accept, unconditionally, all those who are vaccinated with vaccines that are approved by EMA."
Mapped: The countries accepting vaccine passports this summer (telegraph.co.uk)
Mapped: The countries accepting vaccine passports this summer (telegraph.co.uk)

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From: Reading, UK
Clearly the little card you are given after your jab has no certification value and can be easily forged.
However, as you will see from recent posts, the NHS App (accessible by either the Android/iOS app or via the NHS website) provides definitive (and difficult to forge) confirmation of your vaccination status.
I fully expect that to become acceptable to the EU as a de facto vaccination certificate in the near future, if not already.
However, as you will see from recent posts, the NHS App (accessible by either the Android/iOS app or via the NHS website) provides definitive (and difficult to forge) confirmation of your vaccination status.
I fully expect that to become acceptable to the EU as a de facto vaccination certificate in the near future, if not already.
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From: Blighty
The NHS app doesn't show anything like a QR code which would link to a URL and allow for cross-verification
We are therefore left with an immigration official having to trust what is visible on a passenger's mobile. I imagine immigration officials will be very reluctant to touch the phones of lots of potentially infected people
What stops somebody creating a simple, but fraudulent, app (and selling it, but not via official places like Google) which gives a display of the relevant bits of text to keep immigration happy, and charging people for a download to their phone ?
We are therefore left with an immigration official having to trust what is visible on a passenger's mobile. I imagine immigration officials will be very reluctant to touch the phones of lots of potentially infected people
What stops somebody creating a simple, but fraudulent, app (and selling it, but not via official places like Google) which gives a display of the relevant bits of text to keep immigration happy, and charging people for a download to their phone ?




