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Old 3rd May 2021, 10:22
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I would have thought that it matters not a jot what the UK govt want its the other end that matters if Brits want to travel. Why not just accept the IATA or EU version . Oh that means there will be no friends and familly opportunities for Boris and Crime inc so that might be a problem.
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Old 3rd May 2021, 10:35
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pax - quite right.

Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
I would have thought that it matters not a jot what the UK govt want its the other end that matters if Brits want to travel. Why not just accept the IATA or EU version . Oh that means there will be no friends and familly opportunities for Boris and Crime inc so that might be a problem.
I gave up. The App is Kafka-esque and easy to get wrong.
I see design similarities with other Government projects.
ie designed to generate lots of lovely expensive changes,
and approved by an unaware management.
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Old 4th May 2021, 08:33
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
Likewise now formally announced that the UK will use the NHS app as a passport.
The Guardian
I suspect it is the case that the App referred to applies only to England and Wales so does not apply to all UK citizens.
The joys of union...
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Old 4th May 2021, 13:04
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The Independent reports today:
The NHS app may not be ready to be used for international travel when it resumes on 17 May, Number 10 has said.
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Old 8th May 2021, 10:31
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So much for vaccine passports! Not mentioned or included in any of the green/amber/red country lists published yesterday. What happened to vaccine passports being a tool? Instead we subjugate to expensive PCR tests administered by Boris' cronies companies for hundreds a pop. Shambles.
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Old 8th May 2021, 15:48
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Bumbling Boris said NO passports!
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Old 8th May 2021, 17:40
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Originally Posted by T250 View Post
So much for vaccine passports! Not mentioned or included in any of the green/amber/red country lists published yesterday. What happened to vaccine passports being a tool? Instead we subjugate to expensive PCR tests administered by Boris' cronies companies for hundreds a pop. Shambles.
You're supposed to book a holiday with TUI so you get subsidised tests. Didn't you get the memo?
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Old 16th May 2021, 03:24
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BBC web news
The boss of the world's busiest airport for international passengers has said Covid passports are the only way to restart mass foreign travel.

Dubai Airports chief executive Paul Griffiths told the BBC: "I don't think there is an alternative."

Critics of the digital systems argue they discriminate against those who cannot get vaccinated.

But Mr Griffiths says he is a complete supporter of the documents, which he says are "inevitable".

"I think the problem is not the vaccine passport and its discrimination. It's the need to roll things out and have a proper globally equitable vaccine programme," he said.
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Old 16th May 2021, 19:17
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Originally Posted by PAXboy View Post
The Independent reports today:

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As of today the NHS App shows your Covid vaccination record.
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Old 16th May 2021, 19:52
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Originally Posted by togsdragracing View Post
As of today the NHS App shows your Covid vaccination record.
I'm reasonably OK with using my iPad but I've now had three attempts at downloading/signing in to the NHS App without success- it says the info I've posted is not clear and am waiting for approval after the third attempt.
My wife downloaded it, put in her email address, made a password, added her NHS Number and straight in - no photo of her passport/driving licence, no video, no chanting the four numbers - straight in !
My vaccination records are clearly shown on the Patient Access App - fortunately I'm not travelling in the very near future !
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Old 17th May 2021, 07:59
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My second jab was on 21/4. Via GP surgery, who used a local small NHS facility, - not their surgery.
Did not show up on the App or Patient access on pc, until this morning.
Now showing on both.

App has security but was easy enough to set up on my android. Easier than the Virgin Money app, which is a real pain!!
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Old 17th May 2021, 16:58
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Fake Covid vaccine and test certificate market is growing, researchers say

More than 1,200 vendors operating in the UK and worldwide, offering false documents for as little as 25
The Guardian
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Old 18th May 2021, 05:24
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Out of interest evidence of your vaccinations now shows up on the NHS app (not the NHS covid app)
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Old 18th May 2021, 07:17
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See post #69.
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Old 18th May 2021, 08:18
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Well if REAL vendors charge are allowed to charge over 250 what do you expect?
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Old 18th May 2021, 18:59
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What's the point, testing is the only measure being used. Vaccines and vaccine passports are not part of the measures.
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Old 18th May 2021, 20:31
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"The EU has already stated that it will be open to all inoculated visitors this summer. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen confirmed: "This will enable free movement and the travel to the European Union. Because one thing is clear: All 27 member states will accept, unconditionally, all those who are vaccinated with vaccines that are approved by EMA."

Mapped: The countries accepting vaccine passports this summer (telegraph.co.uk)
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Old 18th May 2021, 21:48
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Yes, but will the card I have listing my two injections and the batch numbers be accepted by all 27 countries? I doubt it and we are back to Square 1.
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Old 18th May 2021, 22:23
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Clearly the little card you are given after your jab has no certification value and can be easily forged.

However, as you will see from recent posts, the NHS App (accessible by either the Android/iOS app or via the NHS website) provides definitive (and difficult to forge) confirmation of your vaccination status.

I fully expect that to become acceptable to the EU as a de facto vaccination certificate in the near future, if not already.
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Old 19th May 2021, 01:49
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The NHS app doesn't show anything like a QR code which would link to a URL and allow for cross-verification
We are therefore left with an immigration official having to trust what is visible on a passenger's mobile. I imagine immigration officials will be very reluctant to touch the phones of lots of potentially infected people

What stops somebody creating a simple, but fraudulent, app (and selling it, but not via official places like Google) which gives a display of the relevant bits of text to keep immigration happy, and charging people for a download to their phone ?
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