BA reveals 10 abreast 777
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TBH BA's new "offerings" have one major issue - the seat cushions are non -existant - they seem to be about one inch deep and made of solid plastic
So "good" that Great Western Railways hae installed them on all their new trains........... ouch, ouch, ouch.......
So "good" that Great Western Railways hae installed them on all their new trains........... ouch, ouch, ouch.......
Slightly anal correction - B767 is 2/3/2. It's capable of 2/4/2 but you don't want to fly on one so configured. I did a flight test ages ago on a 767 bound for an African operator that had a 2/4/2 coach configuration - out of curiosity I tried one of the seats and nearly got stuck (I'm not a large person, and was ~50 lbs. lighter back then than now). 2/3/2 in coach is one reason why the 767 remains one of my favorite aircraft (of course personal bias comes in to play as well since my first program at Boeing was the 767)
The issue with bargain basement Y having more squashed seats than standard Y is that UK APD at the standard rate only applies to the lowest standard of accommodation - everything above gets the huge higher rate. That came from F-C-Y days, but if you now have C-Y-Squashed Y then the higher rate applies to the regular Y.
Regarding the squeezing down of seats, it is a universal mantra among its advocates that nobody is put off by it, they are only interested in the lowest fare. It follows therefore that all the effort Boeing are putting in to making the 777X cabin interior 6" wider by some reduction of the cabin walls would be of no interest to such operators. They will only be interested if it allows, with other squashing measures, another seat to go in, at 3-5-3.
Incidentally, that "lowest fares" bit about all of this is a Pinocchio moment as well. With several carriers that have now done this with seating, I notice not the slightest reduction in fares compared to before. in fact the opposite.
Regarding the squeezing down of seats, it is a universal mantra among its advocates that nobody is put off by it, they are only interested in the lowest fare. It follows therefore that all the effort Boeing are putting in to making the 777X cabin interior 6" wider by some reduction of the cabin walls would be of no interest to such operators. They will only be interested if it allows, with other squashing measures, another seat to go in, at 3-5-3.
Incidentally, that "lowest fares" bit about all of this is a Pinocchio moment as well. With several carriers that have now done this with seating, I notice not the slightest reduction in fares compared to before. in fact the opposite.
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An additional 6'', 0.6'' per seat is going to make a difference on a 12 hour (ish) night flight to SIN ... NO IT ISN'T ... It was the most uncomfortable flight ever!
To hell with them, if ever I should opt to pay a return visit to the land of Brexit then I'll opt for something like a 2/4/2 A330 carrier, someone like Oman Air, to hell with these BA type cowboy outfits and their flogging Marks & Sparks sarnies!
To hell with them, if ever I should opt to pay a return visit to the land of Brexit then I'll opt for something like a 2/4/2 A330 carrier, someone like Oman Air, to hell with these BA type cowboy outfits and their flogging Marks & Sparks sarnies!
It follows therefore that all the effort Boeing are putting in to making the 777X cabin interior 6" wider by some reduction of the cabin walls would be of no interest to such operators. They will only be interested if it allows, with other squashing measures, another seat to go in, at 3-5-3.
But to most airlines (including BA), given that the 6" wider fuselage extends all the way to the front of the aircraft, that could well amount to a useful enhancement to the F or C product.
