The system will not allow it.....
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Oh indeed ExXB I could see how it made sense for the carriers. My guess is that they have stopped it now, as it is too easy for folks to see such gerrymandering.
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Not from where I'm sitting. The LoCos have only enforced a sorely needed financial discipline on the passenger sector, but they're not offering anything original. The best performing LoCo (to the best of my calculations) is our old friend in the blue-and-yellow corner who brings in an average profit-per-customer of just 6€31, more than double that of Southwest. The highest figure I can find in Europe or the US is Lufthansa at 9€60 and of course these positive figures must be offset by the basket cases like AirFrance and Flybe
Given the effective monopoly that relatively few players have in this sector, those figures are ludicrously small, especially when one considers how the number of airports offering scheduled commercial flights is reducing all the time. Obsessing over CASMs and load-factors blinds airline managers to the revenue they are losing by encouraging passengers to spend their money elsewhere. The walls of the silo remain intact.
Given the effective monopoly that relatively few players have in this sector, those figures are ludicrously small, especially when one considers how the number of airports offering scheduled commercial flights is reducing all the time. Obsessing over CASMs and load-factors blinds airline managers to the revenue they are losing by encouraging passengers to spend their money elsewhere. The walls of the silo remain intact.
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History with Dan Air
I remember reading that DAN AIR in UK made 1 pound sterling profit on each seat sold, on their charter flights.
BUT
The contract with the charter insisted that DAN AIR received ALL the revenue fro Duty Free sales.
Nothing changes.
BUT
The contract with the charter insisted that DAN AIR received ALL the revenue fro Duty Free sales.
Nothing changes.
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I can vouch for that, I was commercial director of a well known charter airline back then and indeed on many flights the only profit was the duty free sales. We always worked on a target break even of 80% load factor ( charter remember so a fixed seat rate) but frequently on a 130 or 148 seat 737 the profit would be in the last five seats!
Back to my original post the irony is that I could now rebook the whole trip to connect to the earlier flight except as that is now offered by BA as a connection except I am sure they will not be able to do that either.
We will just go to the AC desk on landing in YVR and hope for no shows, problem being these flights are nearly always full and it is the week before Christmas which makes it even worse.
This is a trip we make often and in future will night stop at YVR then go over next day with either Harbour Air on the otter seaplane ( great little company) or just pick up the hire car in YVR and go by ferry. Might even do westjet over Calgary but AC have screwed me up one time too many now.
Back to my original post the irony is that I could now rebook the whole trip to connect to the earlier flight except as that is now offered by BA as a connection except I am sure they will not be able to do that either.
We will just go to the AC desk on landing in YVR and hope for no shows, problem being these flights are nearly always full and it is the week before Christmas which makes it even worse.
This is a trip we make often and in future will night stop at YVR then go over next day with either Harbour Air on the otter seaplane ( great little company) or just pick up the hire car in YVR and go by ferry. Might even do westjet over Calgary but AC have screwed me up one time too many now.
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To continue the thoughts about non-service: I read the following yesterday in an article in a UK broadsheet.
Any suggestions as to which company was named?
“I’d say the relentless, daily, mediocre thinking of middle management types who are completely focused on metrics to the exclusion of all other factors. They don't want to rock the boat, they don't know how to inspire their workforce, and they rely far too much on the <??> name and reputation to do that for them.”
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Groundhog,
There is also HeliJet YVR (South)/CXH (near seabus terminal) to CBF7 (Victoria Heliport Dallas Road). They do 'interline' meaning a travel agent or airline can include them on your long haul ticket (at their sector fares). I took them once, in theory to Whistler - but ended up in Squamish as they were VFR, but highly recommend them for their short trips.
There is also HeliJet YVR (South)/CXH (near seabus terminal) to CBF7 (Victoria Heliport Dallas Road). They do 'interline' meaning a travel agent or airline can include them on your long haul ticket (at their sector fares). I took them once, in theory to Whistler - but ended up in Squamish as they were VFR, but highly recommend them for their short trips.
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I liked that you could insert almost ANY large corporate name there and it would be believable.
I liked that you could insert almost ANY large corporate name there and it would be believable.
