Pax ignoring seat belt sign
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Pax ignoring seat belt sign
I flew EasyJet recently. After landing and taxiing was over a pax stood to collect his bag from the o/h bin. This was before the seatbelt sign had been switched off. A Flight Attendant promptly told him to sit down and no other pax stood up. I was impressed. On numerous BA flights the cabin crew take no notice and, consequently, the practice is now rife. Isn't it time rules were enforced?
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BA cabin crew are a bit lax on insisting passengers remain seated until the seat belt sign is off.
During the cabin crew dispute a few years back, I flew on a BA chartered Air Finland aircraft (complete with their cabin crew). As we pulled up to the stand some passengers got out of their seats, only to be met with a severe "Sit Down!" over the PA from the cabin crew, no fluffy explanation, just straight to the point.
It might go against the BA product to be abrupt in a similar situation but after all (as cabin crew routinly tell us on the PA) they are there for our safety!
During the cabin crew dispute a few years back, I flew on a BA chartered Air Finland aircraft (complete with their cabin crew). As we pulled up to the stand some passengers got out of their seats, only to be met with a severe "Sit Down!" over the PA from the cabin crew, no fluffy explanation, just straight to the point.
It might go against the BA product to be abrupt in a similar situation but after all (as cabin crew routinly tell us on the PA) they are there for our safety!
Ask the pilots to do an emergency stop if pax refuse to stay seated, always works, they fall over like skittles. Before anyone says what about sueing the airline, it doesn't count.
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But they did not know if the delay would be two minutes or ten! they did not wait; as soon as they perceived that the plane had stopped they were out of their seats. And it would not affect what time they actually got to de-board. My point was that EJ have good discipline and BA do not. I think the EJ cc are just way more professional than than the BA team.
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My point was that EJ have good discipline and BA do not. I think the EJ cc are just way more professional than than the BA team.
I can't say I've noticed a lack of professionalism, but then on all the BA flights I have flown on recently, the engines have been shut down and the seat belt signs turned off pretty well as soon as the aircraft has come to a halt on the stand, so the question didn't arise.
And if for any reason the aircraft has to stop on the taxiway before reaching the gate, for example to hold for another aircraft, there will invariably be a PA announcement warning pax to stay seated.
If you want an example of unprofessionalism, try this post from a couple of days ago about EZY playing the safety announcement while passengers were still taking their seats and stowing their carry-ons:
http://www.pprune.org/passengers-slf...ml#post7928644
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Ask the pilots to do an emergency stop if pax refuse to stay seated, always works, they fall over like skittles. Before anyone says what about sueing the airline, it doesn't count.
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But they did not know if the delay would be two minutes or ten! they did not wait; as soon as they perceived that the plane had stopped they were out of their seats. And it would not affect what time they actually got to de-board. My point was that EJ have good discipline and BA do not. I think the EJ cc are just way more professional than than the BA team.
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I remain seated until the engines are shut down. They I join the mob. Some airlines use the seat-belt signs but not all.
If the engines are spooling down the aircraft ain't going anywhere.
(Of course you might have to be towed into the gate with engines shut down, but the cockpit has always mentioned this when it happened to me.)
If the engines are spooling down the aircraft ain't going anywhere.
(Of course you might have to be towed into the gate with engines shut down, but the cockpit has always mentioned this when it happened to me.)
Since nobody can deplane until the aircraft doors are open, I tend to stay seated until the already standing passengers start to perform the Boeing Shuffle (other aircraft types are available).
If I'm in an aisle seat I will always respond to a request from my row mates to make way. Returning on a flight recently and seated in a D aisle seat, the woman in E actually climbed over me - no words spoken, not even an apologetic smile - and took her place amongst the standees for 3-4 minutes thereby saving that vital three seconds.
What's the etiquette here? Can anyone think of a pointed yet appropriate remark to make in such a social situation?
If I'm in an aisle seat I will always respond to a request from my row mates to make way. Returning on a flight recently and seated in a D aisle seat, the woman in E actually climbed over me - no words spoken, not even an apologetic smile - and took her place amongst the standees for 3-4 minutes thereby saving that vital three seconds.
What's the etiquette here? Can anyone think of a pointed yet appropriate remark to make in such a social situation?
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Have to agree with Farci; if you want to see the herd reflex in action then there's no better place to do it than a deplaning aircraft. Stand up, wait for five minutes, get off the plane, be first at the carousel, wait ten minutes while everyone else's luggage comes off first...fascinating.
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Or, when flying non-shengen, get to the 'other passport' queue ahead of a dozen or so other passengers meaning I can connect to my once-an-hour train/bus more often than not.
Not all flights require this but there are times when I do have to leg it. Same when I've checked a bag, but that isn't often.
Yes it's only an hour, but ...
Not all flights require this but there are times when I do have to leg it. Same when I've checked a bag, but that isn't often.
Yes it's only an hour, but ...
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Pax ignoring seat belt sign
This is my absolute pet hate. Good on the Easy Jet cc! I always feel like shouting, "Sit the **** down!" but of course I never do... Although I did shout at a woman on a Jet Konnect domestic flight in India who was still talking into her phone as we started the take off roll.
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Yep, always amuses me how so many stand up only to wait minutes before deplaning begins. Even more amusing when it involves a bus ride. I remain seated reading my book until the herd are off. I'm last on the bus - and first off!
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......stop taxiing. Inform ATC, and inform the passengers of the valid reason.
Air Botswana are pretty unreliable - this is being kind. However, if you try to stand up before the seat signs are switched off you get screamed at by the cabin crew. I just love it when this happens
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Yes hold up all the other arrivals, after all the safety of my passengers is paramount and I can't legally move the aircraft unless they're all sitting down and strapped in.