Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight)
Reload this Page >

Fodder for the Ryanair haters...

Wikiposts
Search
Passengers & SLF (Self Loading Freight) If you are regularly a passenger on any airline then why not post your questions here?

Fodder for the Ryanair haters...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12th Sep 2012, 15:27
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N. Spain
Age: 79
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

If you're in the city, I've found 20 so far. In the province, obviously,
there are less.
SJ
True but for me the point is this. This woman is being torn to shreds here by contributers posting assumptions disguised as facts. None of them know what her situation was or the reason why she didn't print her return boarding passes. Maybe it was a simple case of forgetting to do it, maybe she had other things on her mind to worry about. The point is, we don't know the circumstances but that doesn't stop the "zero tolerance" experts who obviously never made a mistake in their perfect lives.
Shack37 is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 16:00
  #82 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 816
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is not that we are all perfect and have never made any mistakes. It is that when we have screwed up we accept the consequences and then get on with things, particularly where the matter is legal or related to a contract which we have agreed to.

Very recently I exceeded the checked baggage weight limit for a different airline by a couple of kgs. I had to pay an excess baggage fee. Irritating, yes. Did I start a Facebook campaign, seek someone else to blame, enage the media, demand an apology, fish for compensation.... no I didn't.

O'Leary is right on this one, although his way of speaking about it was not ideal. There is virtually nowhere on Earth where in the space of two weeks you cannot print off some pages from the interent; and presumably she managed to print her boarding passes for the outbound sector so cannot claim ignorance for the inbound sector.
Torque Tonight is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 16:05
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Cape Town / UK / Europe
Posts: 728
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I seem to remember an occasion some years ago when O'Leary appeared on "Watchdog" and he got so caught out that he actually stormed off! I think that it may have been Nicky Campbell interviewing
I'd like to see that clip because I find it hard to imagine that O'Leary would be 'caught out' and would 'storm off'. He's too damned smart!
Tableview is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 16:05
  #84 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: UK
Age: 72
Posts: 13
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SLF occasional vistor to this site ... been travelling on business for over 30 years; 95 countries at the last count and goodness knows how many airlines - many of them now defunct. My company is going through tough financial times and forced me to take Ryanair for the first time this week. I was dreading the thought - however ..... my observations are:-
1) The website was not particulalry difficult to navigate,
2) the flights departed on time and clearly this was a priority (can't over emphasise how important this is to business passengers !!)
3) The fare - booked 5 days before departure - was £127.00 the next cheapest my company travel coordinator could find was £497.00 on a certain German carrier. BA didn't feature !!
4) The Ryanair crew were friendly and efficient - and they got me to my meeting, and home to my loved ones, on time.

Overall, I was quite impressed - particuarly with the price! Many of the knockers on here I suspect work for more traditional airlines - the ones who think you should feel privileged to fly with them (anyone from BA reading this? Anyone remember the marquees in the Terminal 4 car park and flights leaving without passengers - how's that for poor treatment of your customers?). So far, a very happy Ryanair customer.

Last edited by DeepDene; 12th Sep 2012 at 16:19.
DeepDene is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 16:06
  #85 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Frog Land
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It seems to me that some people would prefer a return to the "glory days" of aviation when people actually got dressed up to fly, gourmet food on all flights, etc.

If I fly Ryanair, I know what to expect. They get me from A to B. Yes, they play cheesy announcements (especially the trumpet one when landing on time) but I could not give a fig for a sector of 1-2 hours.

The rules of the company are so well publicised that I fail to see how anyone can continue to complain.
ChatterBox33 is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 17:16
  #86 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Blighty
Posts: 5,675
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 17 Posts
It seems to me that some people would prefer a return to the "glory days" of aviation when people actually got dressed up to fly
Would it really be so bad, if people made an effort to look a little more presentable at Stansted ?
davidjohnson6 is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 17:30
  #87 (permalink)  
Tabs please !
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Biffins Bridge
Posts: 954
Received 376 Likes on 225 Posts
I had the misfortune to go to Luton Airport recently. I have seen better dressed people hanging around a dole office waiting for the doors to open. The sad truth is that flying has largely become a race to the bottom and in many cases, has reached that point.
B Fraser is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 18:13
  #88 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 82
Posts: 490
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, there were glory days. I worked for BEA before it became BA. It was a prestigious airline and proud of it. But that was in the middle of the last century. We are now in the 21st century and short-haul flights are just bus services. There is nothing at all romantic about being herded like cattle into an aluminium tube and breathing 129 other people's exhalations whilst attempting to read as trolleys clank past you. I am sure our American friends will tell you the same with their short-haulers. If you want romance and quality you can still get it but you pay the price. I am hoping that when we visit New Zealand we can fly Emirates Club Class for a real treat. It'll cost us most of our retirement savings but it'll be worth it. In the meantime I am perfectly happy to use Ruinair and Squeasyjet for what they are - bus services.
Sunnyjohn is offline  
Old 12th Sep 2012, 22:41
  #89 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N. Spain
Age: 79
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

There is virtually nowhere on Earth where in the space of two weeks you
cannot print off some pages from the interent; and presumably she managed to
print her boarding passes for the outbound sector so cannot claim ignorance for
the inbound sector.
Agree with everything you say. What we don't know is why she didn't print them unless she explained on her Falsecook rant but I can't access that, not being a member.
People come on here with moans about many things and get either sympathy or flamed but at least the flamers are aware of the details of the whinge they're flaming.
Maybe someone who has read her bark can enlighten us all.
Shack37 is offline  
Old 13th Sep 2012, 15:18
  #90 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Coventry
Age: 48
Posts: 1,946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you embellished it due to having taken severe instant dislike of this woman. A good example of not letting the facts ruin a good rant.
No, I made a simple, logical assumption. We know she stayed in a villa, we know she was there for more than 14 days.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to assume that she had opportunities somewhere during the last 14 days of her stay, or on the way to the airport, to find a printer that would do the job in hand.

For anymore than 1x€60 I would have gone into Eroski and bought a printer myself.

doesn't stop the "zero tolerance" experts who obviously never made a mistake in their perfect lives
More like the "zero knowledge" Ryanair "experts" who decide to take on the airline on a legal point where they have no claim of any substance to make. It might be totally absurd that they charge you this much for a single sheet of paper, but that is their policy, take it or easyJet it.

Of course I make mistakes, I usually do so several times each day. However, I have the decency to know that "most" of my mistakes are my own fault. I'm still not sure who to blame for the ones that aren't, can anyone help me out there?
jabird is offline  
Old 13th Sep 2012, 16:49
  #91 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N. Spain
Age: 79
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Of course I make mistakes, I usually do so several times each day. However, I
have the decency to know that "most" of my mistakes are my own fault. I'm still
not sure who to blame for the ones that aren't, can anyone help me out
there?
OK, if there is no cost or pain involved I'll cop for one of them.
Shack37 is offline  
Old 19th Sep 2012, 23:22
  #92 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Coventry
Age: 48
Posts: 1,946
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just for the record, I have tried various FB searches, and contacted the poster directly, but no luck with either.

There are a few Ryanair hate groups out there, but the airline still has far more "fans" than the haters - I'd say by about 8:1.
jabird is offline  
Old 20th Sep 2012, 01:25
  #93 (permalink)  
Paxing All Over The World
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hertfordshire, UK.
Age: 67
Posts: 10,152
Received 62 Likes on 50 Posts
RYR are a bunch of A1 class $hits but everyone knows that. If they don't - by the time they have flown one sector with them - they know that!

The key to this stated problem and the irritation of the original traveller, is that the group of people who ONLY knew old service - many of then of the still expect full sarvice.

Tthey might not travel very often and so be unaware of the changes. But, in another ten years, that generation will (mostly) either know - or be too old to travel. I only travel RYR if I have no choice but that's my choice.

The 18 year olds that are travellin gon their own account for the first time - don't think twice about these things.

It's called life - which is not the same things as progress!
PAXboy is offline  
Old 20th Sep 2012, 02:28
  #94 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: UK.
Posts: 4,390
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
the ones who think you should feel privileged to fly with them (anyone from BA reading this?
Certainly did in 1980 but King & Marshall sorted that out. Always good to do a 'Putting people first' re-run, though.
Presently in Sydney and met up with friends who came out a few days ago in Singapore economy. They felt that the CC appeared to consider them a nuisance and unworthy of their attention. Regrettably, having recently dealt with (one or two, not all) SIN ground staff, I wasn't surprised.
Basil is offline  
Old 20th Sep 2012, 15:48
  #95 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Edinburgh
Age: 39
Posts: 642
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jabird
Just for the record, I have tried various FB searches, and contacted the poster directly, but no luck with either.

There are a few Ryanair hate groups out there, but the airline still has far more "fans" than the haters - I'd say by about 8:1.
That's because the vast majority of people who use them have done exactly what has been asked of them and have gotten from A to B for much less than the fare stated on another airline and have been perfectly happy with the service they got and didn't expect, want or demand more than they were getting. Quite what people moaning abut FR, especially on Facebook, hope to achieve is beyond me, even if they charged my own mother £60 for a boarding card I'd still book with them without hesitation if I felt they were offering me a good deal and no amount of "it's unfair" moaners would change my mind.
edi_local is offline  
Old 20th Sep 2012, 16:44
  #96 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Lemonia. Best Greek in the world
Posts: 1,759
Received 6 Likes on 3 Posts
Basil,
yup, they need PPF again. As you say, it doesn't hurt to re-run it....
Ancient Observer is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.