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BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions IV

Old 18th Feb 2011, 15:04
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the handing over a pre-typed letter
What tosh - it implies that the letter was all done in the 'typing pool' (do companies still have those?) beforehand with a presumption of guilt. A company like BA will have had HR prepare the letters and had them vetted by Legal in advance when faced with a situation like this, i.e. strike added to history of behaviour of some during past strikes. There will also have been a 'you're cleared' letter. It's just a case of slotting in Dear [Your Name Here].
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 15:24
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Or so

Tomorrow is the first day of "or so", as in
Failing a willingness by BA management to take its employment relations seriously and start negotiating, we would anticipate giving the company formal notice of this fresh ballot within the next ten days or so.
by Len McCluskey.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 15:35
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Tomorrow is the first day of "or so", as in
But tomorrow's Saturday. Len will be on the golf course & Duncan will be watching football!
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 16:26
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Tsk tsk, Finky. You know Duncan has to pot on the tomato plants at this time of year.


Seriously, the "or so" uncertainty just adds more quasi-pressure on BA to come begging to their Union Masters to achieve a settlement. Whether there is actually any substantial effect of forward bookings will be an on-going mystery ... there are far too many other factors in play that have nothing to do with BASSA/Unite.

But my shiny sixpence is being laid on people basically getting on with their lives, and jobs, and booking with BA.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 17:08
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Does anyone else think it odd that there has not been a single posting on the other thread since 10.30 yesterday morning?
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 19:06
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Things have been very quiet generally, largely because most people have said what they want to say [on numerous occasions].

Until Planet BASSA has established a connection with The Big Giant Head at Unite, and obtained some sort of agreement to spend more money on another pointless ballot [90% of the remaining BASSA members voted YES to a Strike!!!] there is very little more to say.

There is, of course, the possibility that certain Legal people are also trying to establish communication with The Big Giant Head and explain how deep the sh 1t is potentially going to be. And The Big Giant Head might be wondering how he let Little Tomato Head get him into this situation in the first place.

Seriously, I would like to think that BASSA/Unite are actually doing some thinking and talking, instead of posturing and posting risible garbage for the rest of us to read. However, the SWP are probably drafting new poster designs in case this really IS the Great Revolution they've been waiting for.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 20:53
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Does anyone else think it odd that there has not been a single posting on the other thread since 10.30 yesterday morning?
I've just been watching a news report about the protests in Bahrain. Maybe the Bassa militants are over there in disguise having a practice for T5.
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Old 18th Feb 2011, 22:29
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Does anyone else think it odd that there has not been a single posting on the other thread since 10.30 yesterday morning?
I think thatís because itís all rather over for crew, for PAX perhaps not if all they see is news paper headlines about ballots causing them to worry about bookings.

My Partners perspective: sheís working to the new crewing compliments with no issues and has just received a pay rise. If there is a further ballot DH has already stated that itís highly unlikely to result in a strike regardless of the vote.
In the unlikely event that there is actually a strike it wonít adversely impact her either, she will simply go to work as indeed most will.

I imagine many of the strikers also see things as simply by now.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 01:59
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Why have BA not convinced the general mass that they will be ok? If they are ok, then it is easy.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 06:06
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Why have BA not convinced the general mass that they will be ok?
I'm not sure whether or not you're referring to CC or pax?

If the former then the vast majority of BA CC are working normally & will not take IA.

If the latter, BA's bookings continue to grow & the balance sheet is improving.

Bassa are on a hiding to nothing. Holley's last hope is that the tribunal will somehow find in his favour & thereby reinforce his campaign,

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Old 19th Feb 2011, 06:16
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Putting my money where my mouth is

I have booked a pair of seats on the BA0115 for 25 May and two seats on BA0174 for 9 June.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 06:40
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Putting my money where my mouth is

Here Here! Same here too.

2 F tickets to MIA, out May 27th.

Those thousands who have seen sense, made sacrifices and pulled together, warrant and deserve the continued support of the flying public.

Backing BA more than ever.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 09:11
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Why have BA not convinced the general mass that they will be ok? If they are ok, then it is easy.
Litebulbs - could I ask what makes you think the public don't think it's okay?

I am still flying BA if they fly the route. I don't see empty seats on the flights.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 10:51
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Do I count as the general public? I don't work for BA, but have flown on them 20+ times in the last year.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 10:58
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Is there a date published for the result of DH's Tribunal?
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 11:04
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Is there a date published for the result of DH's Tribunal?
I don't think there will be a published date for the result. The decision will be ready when the Tribunal has determined its verdict. I'm not familiar with the exact processes of the ET, but if other Tribunals are anything to go by, a draft decision will be given to both parties for a review (for factual accuracy, commercially sensitive information etc).

If, as expected, the decision does not go DH's way, then if history is anything to go by, lies and half-truths will circulate as to why.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 11:07
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 11:12
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Do I count as the general public? I don't work for BA, but have flown on them 20+ times in the last year.
Of course. But you are just one of the many millions of the general public, however your post implied that the general public en masse are not convinced, if I have understood your original point.

My point was that the public en masse are convinced and while you may or may not be, your views are not that of the general population en masse, as flights are full and bookings are up.

I respect the views of the fringe/minority believers to hold unconventional or illogical beliefs such as the flat earth society. It does not mean however that until the last one of them admits they are wrong, that the world is in fact, flat.
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 11:16
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Old 19th Feb 2011, 11:26
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Well I'm one of the great unwashed in that I'm not yet convinced. I'm holding off booking longhaul BA for next Christmas for a family wedding, where the cancellation and subsequent rebooking of flights is not an option ....


................... but I live in hope.
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