BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions IV
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Is there an outcome yet in DH's tribunal and so what was the outcome? If not when is it due?
It will be especially interesting to find out how Bassa reacts, if they finally understand or if the will cry wolf once more...
It will be especially interesting to find out how Bassa reacts, if they finally understand or if the will cry wolf once more...
"It is not because BA want to sack crew" - disagree. I don't believe BA want to sack all striking crew. But if Unite handed them the opportunity to sack the "ring leaders" \ key extremists then I think they would take it.
As I asked above - why would BA want to stop "illegal" \ "unprotected" strike action now which only allows for protected strike action in a few months that hits summer bookings?
I think that course of action would result in problems if any of the extremists or ring leaders went for an ET. It would have to be all the strikers or none realistically.
As I asked above - why would BA want to stop "illegal" \ "unprotected" strike action now which only allows for protected strike action in a few months that hits summer bookings?
I think that course of action would result in problems if any of the extremists or ring leaders went for an ET. It would have to be all the strikers or none realistically.
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Just as an aside, email from the BA Exec Club just now:
I realise that there may have been some uncertainty around your travel plans during recent months or indeed you may have been hoping to make a booking during the dates affected by Unite's strike action.
To avoid any concerns you may have had about losing your status and to reassure you of your value to us, we have renewed your Gold membership for another year.
Have not flown with them once in 2010.....
I realise that there may have been some uncertainty around your travel plans during recent months or indeed you may have been hoping to make a booking during the dates affected by Unite's strike action.
To avoid any concerns you may have had about losing your status and to reassure you of your value to us, we have renewed your Gold membership for another year.
Have not flown with them once in 2010.....
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I see from the CC Thread that some Union bloke will be spouting on the Politics Show tomorrow 
... I am just so excited by the prospect of hearing something meaningful that I may go and prune some roses.
I doubt very much he will have anything to say, other than the usual blather about "BA Management", "Imposition" and other things written on his little cards of 'things to say when interviewed by the Meeja'.
Days to go Len?
Very few ... so what will happen then?
... I am just so excited by the prospect of hearing something meaningful that I may go and prune some roses.I doubt very much he will have anything to say, other than the usual blather about "BA Management", "Imposition" and other things written on his little cards of 'things to say when interviewed by the Meeja'.
Days to go Len?
Very few ... so what will happen then?
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Striking = Cricket . Law Courts = Water Polo
Len McCluskey is going to be on the Daily Politics show on BBC2 at noon tomorrow (Tuesday 8th).
No doubt he will be complaining that as a hard hitting batsman he is togged up in his best cricketing gear - white pads, studded boots, formidable leather gloves, tough helmet etc.
Whereas those absolute rotters BA have insisted that he plays Water Polo.
No doubt he will be complaining that as a hard hitting batsman he is togged up in his best cricketing gear - white pads, studded boots, formidable leather gloves, tough helmet etc.
Whereas those absolute rotters BA have insisted that he plays Water Polo.
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If Andrew Neil is interviewing him, he will not get an easy ride.
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Dear Baggers, I'm sure someone will post the iPlayer link that you're not allowed to watch [as a non-Licence payer] 
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it could be all talk and no information
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Chances are LM will just say "there will be an announcement later this week" and then stone-wall any and all supplementary questions.
Alas we "cousins" over here will have to go without viewing the program with Mr. LM tomorrow, and will miss any breaking news he might have on offer.
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Nothing missed, he waffled on a bit about his members, Andrew Neil mentioned he was voted in by only 7% of Unite members and that was really about it. and LM gave his view on bankers bonuses and the use of social media.
All very boring.
All very boring.
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I think that Len's interview with Andrew Neil was most enlightening. He was obviously totally unprepared to discuss BA. That can only mean that they have now realised that there is no way of pursuing IA as a result of their flawed ballot.
The Bassa membership aren't going to be at all happy.
The Bassa membership aren't going to be at all happy.
Still too early to say IMHO. Unite have till Friday of course, and delaying the announcement till then will prolong the dipute for the maximum possible time, to the benefit of certain senior BASSA members (but no-one else 
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I think that there will be an announcement either way on Friday. BASSA are seemingly desperate to strike regardless of both the dangers to their members and the utter pointlessness of it all, so my money is still on a strike announcement come Friday.
).I think that there will be an announcement either way on Friday. BASSA are seemingly desperate to strike regardless of both the dangers to their members and the utter pointlessness of it all, so my money is still on a strike announcement come Friday.
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The presenter and question-asker was Andrew Neil._ Not one word about cabin crew or BASSA or BA or airlines was mentioned by either AN or LM._ I have no reason to suppose that this was a condition of Len McCluskey appearing on the programme._ However had there been such condition then this would explain the no mention of the topic._ It would also be consistent with LM’s relaxed and confident mood throughout the entire programme.
I did record the programme, but have now deleted it.
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Edited to add AN asked LM about strikes during Royal Wedding - AN rapidly attached a whole range of organisations i.e. an unfocussed question._ As a reflex action LM brushed this aside as being a decision of members and not a decision of Unite.
I did record the programme, but have now deleted it.
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Edited to add AN asked LM about strikes during Royal Wedding - AN rapidly attached a whole range of organisations i.e. an unfocussed question._ As a reflex action LM brushed this aside as being a decision of members and not a decision of Unite.
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I fail to see how any number of re-ballots will provide them with a result which includes legal protection.
The very fact that the strike mandate came from a ballot that had to be reworded so that it didn't include issues related to a previous strike, links the new ballot to previous industrial action, making any strike illegal.
BASSA have blamed so many people and raised so many 'issues' in the past two years that there's nothing left for a clean protected strike.
So I guess plan B is an unprotected strike... lets see how that goes.
The very fact that the strike mandate came from a ballot that had to be reworded so that it didn't include issues related to a previous strike, links the new ballot to previous industrial action, making any strike illegal.
BASSA have blamed so many people and raised so many 'issues' in the past two years that there's nothing left for a clean protected strike.
So I guess plan B is an unprotected strike... lets see how that goes.
This wont change much, if anything an increased pro-strike majority (of those balloted) is likely. The next ballot will probably return a similar number of yes-voters, a reduced number of no voters (as some may have followed DH's helpful advice and left BASSA) and a reduced number of non-voters (assuming BASSA actually bother sorting out their membership list).
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Bizzarely, this makes more sense than it should!
I agree that they will run another ballot but I don't think that they'll be in a great hurry. After all it costs a few £1,000s to run it properly, & even more to make a complete Horlicks of it.
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