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Old 8th Sep 2010, 13:01
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David's Star

Not immune to a bit of sick humour myself and found the lambasting of Prince Harry over the Hitler Fancy Dress a bit much. However:

The sick idiot that decided to sport a 'Bassa' yellow star deserves a long run of extremely bad luck - something I'm sure karma will sort out nicely. Beginning in the job department I hope.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 13:57
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Has anyone got a picture of this badge? Was it a six or five pointed star? I think that there may be a bit of an over reaction to the issue.......Until I see a picture then I don't think it appropriate to make any conclusions....
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 14:21
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If its a five pointed star they were being offensive to Jews, if six pointed being offensive to Satanists. I can see downsides either way.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 15:02
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In Europe the yellow star has historically and from time to time been enforced garb for Jews since at least as long ago as the Middle Ages. The Nazis resurrected this mark of Cain but they certainly didn't invent it. Enforced upon a Jewish wearer, the star has always been intended as a badge of shame. A Jew might voluntarily wear the star to draw attention and sympathy to the plight of his ancestors but when a Gentile wears the yellow star it must surely signify nothing more than self abasement. The particular sub species of a union under discussion seem to have quite a knack for taking totems which are of great and justifiable importance to certain sections of society and debasing them. But of course there may be no truth to any of this stellar activity anyway.

The Star of David is the hexagram or six sided star composed of two overlapped triangles. The pentacle or five pointed star design is the one more favoured for amusing festivities at certain times of the year. Mind you though, in his Greater Ritual of the Pentagram, Aleister Crowley used both devices in his secret formulation of Abrahadabra.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 15:36
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But of course there may be no truth to any of this stellar activity anyway.
It definitely happened, Sky News monday evening a sacked crewmember was being interviewed outside the Kempton building wearing a 6 pointed yellow star with BASSA in the centre. I was so shocked i couldn't remember his name!
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 15:49
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Originally Posted by cdtaylor_nats View Post
If its a five pointed star they were being offensive to Jews, if six pointed being offensive to Satanists. I can see downsides either way.
I think you have that the wrong way around!!
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 16:10
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But as yet, in the mysterious fashion of the Bible, there has been no sign of the star in the sky, only the rumours of its passing.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 16:27
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Perhaps we need to wait for the 3 Wise Men, although I have little conviction that Holley, Woodley and ... the other one ... are likely to fall into that category.

Whatever, I just keep booking flights with BA.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 16:48
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Unlikely to find 3 wise men and a virgin in BASSA.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 16:55
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Unlikely to find 3 wise men and a virgin in BASSA.
From that I assume that a certain other British TATL carrier doesn't have BASSA representation?

However, to complete the set, we also need an Innkeeper and a Carpenter. Do kitchen fitters count?

We already have the donkey [DH] and the sheep and the oxen ... they're members and reps, of course.

Hey, the BASSA Christmas Strike Pantomime is almost complete! Lizanne as the Infant? Or the Angel?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:15
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The Book of Revelations would allow one to put on a slightly different production of the jolly old British Christmas panto scenario. John of Patmos records the divine birth in Revelations 12 as I remember.

Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on his heads. His tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her child the moment it was born.

That should type cast nicely I'd have thought.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:22
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Profound post, cavortingcheetah

Q 1 ... red dragon. Are any of the BASSA leadership Welsh?

Q 2 ... seven heads. Hasn't BAA had to reduce it's airport holdings? Or is that Continents?

Q 3 ... ten horns. Hmmm ... no response

Q 4 ... seven crowns. Is there a Star Alliance link?

Q 5 ... swept a third of the stars from the sky. OK, a few airlines have gone down in recent years.

Scary, innit!!
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 17:55
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Thanks, Lotpax. Being called clever by someone of your standing is very high praise indeed!

Yes, I was flying ChicoG and boy was it a long flight! However, in answer to Betty's question, it was to a very nice place, thanks and I won't mention the fact I'm now sat by the roof top pool..

Anyway, to business. I'll make this my last post on the subject for fear of driving poor old MPN11 to drink! (And the mods for that matter)

Have you actually registered at the PCCC website and investigated what they might offer you, or are you happy just sitting back niggling at them?
It's a fair point as no I haven't registered. Maybe I should before I comment but in my defence, I do know a fair bit of the background of PCCC. Probably more than your average crew member.

Do you have any interest in what possibly be more sensible representation, or do you think the current BASSA leadership are worthy of support?
Yes and no respectively.

All I see is you constantly criticising the PCCC, which puts you in the BASSA or moaners barrel.
What you see is me asking questions of one of the founding members and me voicing my opinion. It is my opinion. I do not expect everyone to agree with it. Maybe you'd prefer another organisation full of blinkered followers? I may not agree with all HiFlyer says but from what I have seen and what I know of HighFlyer, I don't think even he/she would want that. In suggesting that by voicing my opinion, I am in the BASSA barrel, you sound no different to a BASSA supporter in reverse. Isn't that the exact attitude that PCCC are trying to move away from? (I'm not actually sure what a moaners barrel is but I like the sound of it!)

Do you see a need for change, and if so, what are you actually doing about it?
Again, a fair point. Yes, I do see the need for change but at the moment, the combination of stupidly busy rosters and a recent major upheaval in my personal life have prevented me from doing anything apart from making tentative enquiries into the possibility of a LGW council of some sort. From my admittedly limited knowledge, I don't think a LGW union will ever be an option as it would be impossible to get the figures needed for recognition. We just don't have enough crew. Even if we could, I suspect that the higher ups in BA would have kittens at the idea of a 4th union joining the fray!

And on that note, I will promise that I will now shut up about the subject.

It's OK, MPN11. You can come back out now...

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Old 8th Sep 2010, 18:02
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JetSetLady, I apologise if my comments suggested any slur. You rock.

I humbly stand corrected.

A fabulously enlightening post.

Cheers,
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 18:30
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Dear JSL, I'm glad to see you posting. And I was driven to drink a long time ago, but that's another story. I would just ask that you call me "MPN11" - an abbreviated name implies a certain familiarity which we do not share [sadly] and "MPN-11" in full has significance.

Anyway, where were we? Oh, yes ... good luck to you and all your colleagues, whichever way you all choose to go. <hugs>

I fly BA ... why not?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 18:46
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Damn! Wrote a reply and got kicked off line again. Anyway, the gist was apologies, MPN11. Forgot the number and it wouldn't let me scroll down! The connection here is a little contrary. All changed now.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:00
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No probs, JSL.

As long as you work from LGW, you're a good person xxx
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:25
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Why don't you two book a room?
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 19:30
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It's an interesting thought. However, some of us try to stay reasonably adult and professional.
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Old 8th Sep 2010, 20:00
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Ignorant or arrogant?

Is this t****r completely ignorant of the fact he was wearing a symbol of fascist Nazi hatred and genocide; or is he so arrogant to believe his 'plight' (ooh, I'm one steward down on my transatlantic aeroplane) is comparable to the plight of millions of people during the 1930's and 1940's (made to wear said symbol, have businesses ran down, classed as 'sub-human', 'resettled' to holding areas, murdered by poison gas).

I'm not Jewish, gay, from Eastern Europe, or any other of the things the Nazi's irrationally hated, but I was particularly angered to see this person wear his 'badge'.

Words cannot describe how stupid his actions were.
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