Clothes to fly in?
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Clothes to fly in?
I am not talking about what to wear on an Airplane disaster movie but comfortable clothing that you can stow all your bits and pieces in and get at them in flight. Things like a newspaper, PDA, earphones, paperback etc.
Once you are in the queue at the gate you will have your hands full with passport, boarding card, paper, book, hand luggage, coat or jacket etc. Once in the aircraft you have to sort out again often with an incredibly small seat back pocket in which, at the end of the flight, you leave your glasses, medication, or whatever.
How about proper cargo pants? Not high-street fashion pants but strictly comfortable clothing for flying.
How about big patch pockets on the shins that can take your newspaper and paper back? How about patch pockets on the thighs that you get at from the knee end, not the hip end?
Hip pockets with secure zips as you will not be able to get at these once strapped in but your money can still fall out.
What would be your perfect clothing?
Once you are in the queue at the gate you will have your hands full with passport, boarding card, paper, book, hand luggage, coat or jacket etc. Once in the aircraft you have to sort out again often with an incredibly small seat back pocket in which, at the end of the flight, you leave your glasses, medication, or whatever.
How about proper cargo pants? Not high-street fashion pants but strictly comfortable clothing for flying.
How about big patch pockets on the shins that can take your newspaper and paper back? How about patch pockets on the thighs that you get at from the knee end, not the hip end?
Hip pockets with secure zips as you will not be able to get at these once strapped in but your money can still fall out.
What would be your perfect clothing?
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For LH flights, I have cargo pants and also a 'fishermans' type gilet that takes loads of stuff.
Also, ditch the paperbacks and get an eBook, you can take as many novels as you like in something about A5 size and thin.
PS: I am always careful to choose pants and gilet in colours that cannot be confused with 'Soldier of Fortune' readers apparel - nonetheless, I won't be winning Hard Amies's approval for being sartorially elegant.
Mind you, he was a bit of a pillock, as he insisted that people should wear lounge suits for long flights.
Also, I usually carry a shemagh if going to a hot sunny country, not the Gulf type with the skull cap (keffiyah) and the holder down (ercal), but the north african type that you can easily rig 'desert style' if you encounter very sunny or dusty conditions.
Useful things, shemaghs. I've even used mine as a tablecloth for a picnic.
For LH flights, I have cargo pants and also a 'fishermans' type gilet that takes loads of stuff.
Also, ditch the paperbacks and get an eBook, you can take as many novels as you like in something about A5 size and thin.
PS: I am always careful to choose pants and gilet in colours that cannot be confused with 'Soldier of Fortune' readers apparel - nonetheless, I won't be winning Hard Amies's approval for being sartorially elegant.
Mind you, he was a bit of a pillock, as he insisted that people should wear lounge suits for long flights.
Also, I usually carry a shemagh if going to a hot sunny country, not the Gulf type with the skull cap (keffiyah) and the holder down (ercal), but the north african type that you can easily rig 'desert style' if you encounter very sunny or dusty conditions.
Useful things, shemaghs. I've even used mine as a tablecloth for a picnic.
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I wholeheartedly agree with any gilet type of jacket, as you'll probably spend a lot of time indoors standing about in queues, so it will help you stay cooler than a long sleeve jacket and you're less likely to end up having to carry it because you're too hot. Lots of pockets to keep stuff in (usually zipped), and unlike trousers, no chance that things will fall out every time you sit down.
The benefit of a jacket over cargo pants, is that you can remove it in flight, and on many carriers there is invariably a small coat hook on the seat back of the row in front, so no need to keep it out of reach in the locker. If you're a tall and well-built chap like myself, then there is nothing more uncomfortable than being jammed into your hideous charter seat with bulging pockets making your seat even more snug and uncomfortable for the next few hours.
The benefit of a jacket over cargo pants, is that you can remove it in flight, and on many carriers there is invariably a small coat hook on the seat back of the row in front, so no need to keep it out of reach in the locker. If you're a tall and well-built chap like myself, then there is nothing more uncomfortable than being jammed into your hideous charter seat with bulging pockets making your seat even more snug and uncomfortable for the next few hours.
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Pontius Navigator, an "outdoor sports" shop has a wide assortment of trousers with extra pockets; but the problem with those is that you'll have to remove all metal items in the security check, where you can just take off a gilet for the event.
I recommend a small backpack as carry on: keeps both your hands free and you can manoeuvre far easier than with a rollerbag. Good thing is that many backpacks come with a lot of side pockets. I like to have pockets in my (button-down) shirt for passport and boarding pass.
I recommend a small backpack as carry on: keeps both your hands free and you can manoeuvre far easier than with a rollerbag. Good thing is that many backpacks come with a lot of side pockets. I like to have pockets in my (button-down) shirt for passport and boarding pass.
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Otto, agree about bulging pockets but I am suggesting leg pockets not hip pockets. As for a gillet, agree it is fine for the little things like phones, PDA, ear phones etc, but less so for books and papers.
As for hanging the jacket on the seat in front, I haven't really found enough space, especially if the seat is reclined or you are sitting next to a stranger.
F3G, agree a Kindle would be a good idea and certainly not for a leg pocket. However having done a cost benefit analysis I reckon I could buy a shelf load of books for the price of a reader ad that before I have even paid for the reader books.
As for hanging the jacket on the seat in front, I haven't really found enough space, especially if the seat is reclined or you are sitting next to a stranger.
F3G, agree a Kindle would be a good idea and certainly not for a leg pocket. However having done a cost benefit analysis I reckon I could buy a shelf load of books for the price of a reader ad that before I have even paid for the reader books.
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Kindle is not my choice, for various reasons.
I have a Hanlin V3, but also very much like this one, which has the benefit of a discount on the titles.
COOL-ER ereader for ebooks from COOLREADERS
On the cost benefit analysis, it is the ability to carry multiple books that does it for me, as I have a library of reference books and standards for work and carrying 30-35 books isn't an option
I have never calculated the payback period, but can see where you are coming from.
My gilet has two deep pockets on the inside, that wil take papers and books.
Kindle is not my choice, for various reasons.
I have a Hanlin V3, but also very much like this one, which has the benefit of a discount on the titles.
COOL-ER ereader for ebooks from COOLREADERS
On the cost benefit analysis, it is the ability to carry multiple books that does it for me, as I have a library of reference books and standards for work and carrying 30-35 books isn't an option
I have never calculated the payback period, but can see where you are coming from.
My gilet has two deep pockets on the inside, that wil take papers and books.
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F3G, thanks for the link, looked at it. What p^sses me off is the world-wide fixed price. How come it is $299 in Cayman, Dubai, South Africa etc but only £189 including VAT in UK?
Really is a Global market - from the same shop in every high street to the sam eprice in every country. So much for tourist shopping.
Really is a Global market - from the same shop in every high street to the sam eprice in every country. So much for tourist shopping.
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We use the largest carry-on and avoid hold baggage which saves charges and cuts time.
As for having to empty your pockets at security, Luton Airport has added an extra layer of security for masochistic travellers. Watches, car keys, cameras, phones, MP3, etc, ie any thing electronic, has to go through separately - you can't leave it all in the pockets of the gillet.
It wouldn't be so bad if they warned you before you entered the security queue and provided plenty of space afterwards so that you can get dressed again.
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it wouldn't be so bad if there was world-wide consistency in security searches. I invariably have two legs to do from the Isle of Man. For some inexplicable reason, they still insist on doing your shoes, whereas LGW and LHR don't.
I also like to look reasonably smart when travelling, so like to travel with a jacket. I've a couple of Camel Active ones which have a sort of crumpled chic to them, so that they still look OK after several hours crammed in the overhead. At least in PE they take it off you and hang it in a wardrobe. Which is nice.
Several years ago, I tried to start up 'Toga Airlines'. You turned up with a long robe and a pair of sandals, and nothing else, and had a special, fast track security channel which you could breeze through.
Maybe the Arabic Dishdash is the answer we have all been looking for?
I also like to look reasonably smart when travelling, so like to travel with a jacket. I've a couple of Camel Active ones which have a sort of crumpled chic to them, so that they still look OK after several hours crammed in the overhead. At least in PE they take it off you and hang it in a wardrobe. Which is nice.
Several years ago, I tried to start up 'Toga Airlines'. You turned up with a long robe and a pair of sandals, and nothing else, and had a special, fast track security channel which you could breeze through.
Maybe the Arabic Dishdash is the answer we have all been looking for?
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I'm the opposite way round.
Tis not the pants to fly in,but a small samsonite hand carrier aeris-comfort-beauty-case-strap - Delivery in United Kingdom by Samsonite that does me.
I can pack in easily ,& kid you not,
Husbands wallet & my purse.
Flat oblong document wallet,containing passports,tickets,& other paperwork.
Moblie phone.
2 or 4 packs of cigarettes,(depending on long,or short haul).
Car & house keys.
Magnetic strip that keeps the aircon on in hotel rooms.
Packet of polos.
2 tubes of earplugs.
Lypsall.
Mini deodrant.
Small pack of clean up wipes.
Rolled up joggy bottoms,a vest top & a clean pair of knickers.(long haul)
Can usually fit the duty free perfume & mascara in too.
The case doubles up as a great footrest on short haul too.!!
Tis not the pants to fly in,but a small samsonite hand carrier aeris-comfort-beauty-case-strap - Delivery in United Kingdom by Samsonite that does me.
I can pack in easily ,& kid you not,
Husbands wallet & my purse.
Flat oblong document wallet,containing passports,tickets,& other paperwork.
Moblie phone.
2 or 4 packs of cigarettes,(depending on long,or short haul).
Car & house keys.
Magnetic strip that keeps the aircon on in hotel rooms.
Packet of polos.
2 tubes of earplugs.
Lypsall.
Mini deodrant.
Small pack of clean up wipes.
Rolled up joggy bottoms,a vest top & a clean pair of knickers.(long haul)
Can usually fit the duty free perfume & mascara in too.
The case doubles up as a great footrest on short haul too.!!
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Deninitley ROHAN for me, even though I'm an old man. Trousers to wear are their BAGS, but if you want a blazer get one from ORVIS. (about £195)
The one that I use can be crumpled up in the luggage rack and at the end of a 13 hour flight it will look as smart as when new. I've used their products for years.
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Orvis Men's Travel Blazer Jackets / Traveller's Hopsack Blazer -- Orvis UK
The one that I use can be crumpled up in the luggage rack and at the end of a 13 hour flight it will look as smart as when new. I've used their products for years.
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Orvis Men's Travel Blazer Jackets / Traveller's Hopsack Blazer -- Orvis UK
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Do tell 
As for the case, Mrs PN has one of those but simply not large enough. She now uses a maxi-size cabin trolley. Shame really as the other would clip on to the handle.
As for the case, Mrs PN has one of those but simply not large enough. She now uses a maxi-size cabin trolley. Shame really as the other would clip on to the handle.
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Its a small plastic key fob,an inch wide,& 3 inches long.
I think we half-inched it from a hotel in Thailand somewhere.
We use it if we are just say nipping down for brekkies,or over to the shop.
Slots in,& the room is still cool when you come back.
We don't use it when we are out for the day,as i am enviromently conscious..
I think we half-inched it from a hotel in Thailand somewhere.
We use it if we are just say nipping down for brekkies,or over to the shop.
Slots in,& the room is still cool when you come back.
We don't use it when we are out for the day,as i am enviromently conscious..
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Deninitley ROHAN for me, even though I'm an old man. Trousers to wear are their BAGS, but if you want a blazer get one from ORVIS. (about £195)
Rohan Rohan Bags - 31" Bags - Mens Outdoor Clothing - Rohan
Orvis Men's Travel Blazer Jackets / Traveller's Hopsack Blazer -- Orvis UK
Rohan Rohan Bags - 31" Bags - Mens Outdoor Clothing - Rohan
Orvis Men's Travel Blazer Jackets / Traveller's Hopsack Blazer -- Orvis UK
My original question though was about true cargo pants that are similar to flying suits. I have been tempted to have a flying suit cut down to provide just the pants.
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Ladies & Gentlemen, we have to announce a Diversion for a grumble
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I used to visit the IOM three times a year to see my mother and found their searching to be far stricter than any other. As I have mentioned before, their metal arch is set more sensitively than any other. When I asked them why the metal tags on my boots did not set off the arch at ANY other airport but ALWAYS at IOM, they denied it saying, "All arches are set to a standard for all airports." Rubbish.
I think they have the (not unworthy) intention of ensuring that they are not revealed as being the transit point into the UK mainland for undesirables. Islands may be thought of as 'soft'.
Thank you for reading Ladies & Gentlemen, the Diversion is now complete.
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it wouldn't be so bad if there was world-wide consistency in security searches. I invariably have two legs to do from the Isle of Man. For some inexplicable reason, they still insist on doing your shoes, whereas LGW and LHR don't.
I think they have the (not unworthy) intention of ensuring that they are not revealed as being the transit point into the UK mainland for undesirables. Islands may be thought of as 'soft'.
Thank you for reading Ladies & Gentlemen, the Diversion is now complete.
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PaxBoy, given your diversion, how about belts?
A problem with cargo pants is they tend to be weighted down and hence need a belt.
But security tells you to remove belts. Why?
Is it the metal buckle? Is it the potential of the belt as a weapon?
My cargoes would therefore have a sewn in belt that could only be removed with the trousers attached. At a stroke this would overcome th eproblem of having to empty ones pockets of metal. Simply strip your pants off and put them in the scanner.
And what of braces?
A problem with cargo pants is they tend to be weighted down and hence need a belt.
But security tells you to remove belts. Why?
Is it the metal buckle? Is it the potential of the belt as a weapon?
My cargoes would therefore have a sewn in belt that could only be removed with the trousers attached. At a stroke this would overcome th eproblem of having to empty ones pockets of metal. Simply strip your pants off and put them in the scanner.
And what of braces?
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Belts are a good question and I always wear one, due to carrying my mobile phone on a belt pouch. The removal is, I think, to help reveal anything sewn into the belt that might not be read by the arch.
I have used cargo pants in the past and found them very useful but that was before the current times and I do not know if they are viewed differently. I have worn braces on a suit once when travelling (through MAN to IOM as it was a journey I particularly recall, just over two years ago) and there was no concern from anyone.
I support the gilet idea as being very useful as it takes weight out of your hand case (phone, MP3 player, eBook reader and digi camera add up) and allows you to get more into the hand case. (or to enable your female travelling companion to get more things into YOUR hand case.
Ouch, that hurt)
Of course, any airport that has the new millimetre wave scanners will undress you - without you having to do a thing!
I have used cargo pants in the past and found them very useful but that was before the current times and I do not know if they are viewed differently. I have worn braces on a suit once when travelling (through MAN to IOM as it was a journey I particularly recall, just over two years ago) and there was no concern from anyone.
I support the gilet idea as being very useful as it takes weight out of your hand case (phone, MP3 player, eBook reader and digi camera add up) and allows you to get more into the hand case. (or to enable your female travelling companion to get more things into YOUR hand case.
Ouch, that hurt)Of course, any airport that has the new millimetre wave scanners will undress you - without you having to do a thing!
Everything goes in the carry on: phone, Blackberry, iPod, small digital camera, phone and BB chargers (if a long stay camera and iPod chargers go in check in bags), and book. I am not sure if the eReader thingy is available here. Passport etc in a travel wallet. First time I flew long haul was BA in 95 and I still have the little amenity bag they gave me in business that has ear plugs, eyeshades, Vicks inhaler and my day's tablets for the bp.
At the security line, all I am left with in my hand is my passport and b/c. I don't have a laptop so no fuss there.
I only ever wear standard shirt and trousers to board the plane although recently I started wearing a casual tailored jacket for trips back to EU that the lovely SQ girls hang up for me whatever class I am in!
On the plane, if long haul, I change into jogging pants and a RUSH t-shirt and original kit goes folded back in the bag.
The carry on bag is close to the limit for airlines other than SQ but I have not had a problem other than a connecting flight from AKL to ZQN on ANZ where I had to transfer some stuff to the check in bag.
At the security line, all I am left with in my hand is my passport and b/c. I don't have a laptop so no fuss there.
I only ever wear standard shirt and trousers to board the plane although recently I started wearing a casual tailored jacket for trips back to EU that the lovely SQ girls hang up for me whatever class I am in!
On the plane, if long haul, I change into jogging pants and a RUSH t-shirt and original kit goes folded back in the bag.
The carry on bag is close to the limit for airlines other than SQ but I have not had a problem other than a connecting flight from AKL to ZQN on ANZ where I had to transfer some stuff to the check in bag.