BA Strike - Your Thoughts & Questions
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From: Tracey Island
An overiding puzzle to me in this dispute is if only a couple of thousand CC went on strike, why the heck have the other 8,000 or so BASSA members not resigned their BASSA membership in protest at BASSA's actions? I know a few have resigned, but it appears to be a small number. Presumably anyone still a member of BASSA must be in agreement with the dispute, despite working through the IA 
From this, it follows that even if BA sack the 2,000 or so strikers, the remaining BASSA members will still be in dispute.
Perhaps explains why WW has not summarily dismissed those who went on strike last time.
From this, it follows that even if BA sack the 2,000 or so strikers, the remaining BASSA members will still be in dispute.
Perhaps explains why WW has not summarily dismissed those who went on strike last time.
Resigning is pointless, far better to remain in and change things....vote in moderate stewards and vote against the strike.
I think somewhere along the line the figures have been distorted by both sides.......There cannot be more members working than striking surely?? If this was the case the only sensible option would be to call off the strikes...
I think both sides need to do a lot of growing up.....
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From: Thailand
From Sky News:
British Airways and the Unite union are set to resume talks today in a bid to avert the five-day strike scheduled to begin on Monday.
The latest talks are aimed at averting another round of strikes
The announcement came hours after BA revealed a record annual pre-tax loss of £531m.
The results, covering a 12-month period to the end of March, include an estimated £40m to £45m loss from the first round of cabin crew strikes earlier this year - but not the fall in revenue caused by the disruptions caused by the volcanic ash cloud.
Peter Harwood, chief conciliator at Acas, confirmed the two sides would resume negotiations.
He said: "Following Monday's meeting, I believe that there is a window of opportunity this weekend for a negotiated settlement to be achieved.
"If an agreement is not reached this weekend there is every possibility that additional pressures on both sides will ensue which will make a final resolution more problematic."
In an interview with Sky News' Anna Jones, BA chief executive Willie Walsh called on Unite's leaders to show "leadership" by persuading the Bassa branch to agree to a deal.
It is thought the next round of strikes could cost the airline £100m - as well as a potentially devastating drop in ticket sales as the uncertainty caused by the stand-off continues.
The latest talks are aimed at averting another round of strikes
The announcement came hours after BA revealed a record annual pre-tax loss of £531m.
The results, covering a 12-month period to the end of March, include an estimated £40m to £45m loss from the first round of cabin crew strikes earlier this year - but not the fall in revenue caused by the disruptions caused by the volcanic ash cloud.
Peter Harwood, chief conciliator at Acas, confirmed the two sides would resume negotiations.
He said: "Following Monday's meeting, I believe that there is a window of opportunity this weekend for a negotiated settlement to be achieved.
"If an agreement is not reached this weekend there is every possibility that additional pressures on both sides will ensue which will make a final resolution more problematic."
In an interview with Sky News' Anna Jones, BA chief executive Willie Walsh called on Unite's leaders to show "leadership" by persuading the Bassa branch to agree to a deal.
It is thought the next round of strikes could cost the airline £100m - as well as a potentially devastating drop in ticket sales as the uncertainty caused by the stand-off continues.
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From: Thailand
That 
Woodley has turned up for supposedly conciliatory talks and instantly blabs his fat mouth off to Sky TV.
How are you supposed to negotiate with these morons?
The only thing he didn't do was use the magic "macho" word again.
Woodley has turned up for supposedly conciliatory talks and instantly blabs his fat mouth off to Sky TV.How are you supposed to negotiate with these morons?
The only thing he didn't do was use the magic "macho" word again.
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From: SALISBURY
Radio 4 Any Answers 1400 hrs
'John', a persecuted Bassa member, was given 5 uninterrupted minutes by the unbiased BBC to pedal the usual Bassa c**p. In particular he was allowed to pedal a total untruth as to how he was being forced to take a 2/3 pay cut. Dimbleby was very sympathetic & continued to use this rubbish during the subsequent interviews.
Unfortunately it's not yet available on the BBC i player.
Why do I have to pay my licence fee?
Unfortunately it's not yet available on the BBC i player.
Why do I have to pay my licence fee?
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From: West Sussex
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From: SALISBURY
Rusland 17
Blatant untruths are not the same as getting both sides of the argument. If I want Bassa propaganda I can easily get that on the CC forum.
I was brought up to believe that the BBC was an unbiased news system. It probably was 50 years ago.
I was brought up to believe that the BBC was an unbiased news system. It probably was 50 years ago.
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From: the OFCR......and probably somewhere over China zzzzzzzz
some complete and utter ****-wits going by the name of the socialist workers party have stormed ACAS and are alleged to be sat 1 floor under the round table talks. How on god's green earth will that help the Unite case? How on earth is it going to benefit pax if the talks are disrupted?? What a bunch of tits! 
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Ironically the retards have placards saying "No more job cuts" or words to that effect.
How many jobs will disappear when the airline fails due to this witless union?
These people are as thick as !!!!!.
Added: Woodley is "furious" with the outside interference. I don't suppose him sneering and bitching on TV before the talks possibly encourages these primates, does it?
Give me strength.
How many jobs will disappear when the airline fails due to this witless union?
These people are as thick as !!!!!.
Added: Woodley is "furious" with the outside interference. I don't suppose him sneering and bitching on TV before the talks possibly encourages these primates, does it?
Give me strength.
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From: UK.
1. SOCIALIST
2. WORKERS
3. PARTY
I guess 2 outa 3 aint bad
I must be regressing to childhood - a ten year old could have come up with that
If someone told me WW had paid them to turn up I'd almost believe it
2. WORKERS
3. PARTY
I guess 2 outa 3 aint bad
I must be regressing to childhood - a ten year old could have come up with that
If someone told me WW had paid them to turn up I'd almost believe it
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From: SALISBURY
I'll bet that there were some Bassa members among them. I just hope that I never have to rely on these retards in the unlikely event of an emergency.
My comments are NOT aimed at the majority of excellent BA CC who have looked after me for many years.
My comments are NOT aimed at the majority of excellent BA CC who have looked after me for many years.
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From: The Winchester
some complete and utter ****-wits going by the name of the socialist workers party
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From: West Midlands
Book or not?
So here is the situation. Need to book a flight to Istanbul for a trip to Gallipoli in September. Cheapest by £5 is easyJet, next is BA. Its usually a no brainer for me because I like BA. Full service, better flight times and not having to put up with a scrum at the gate.
Because of the uncertainty at the moment - and the fact that I have to book in the next week or so - unless it is settled soon I will have to look at easyJet, Turkish or Pegasus instead. This will cause BA to lose more custom and must be replicated a thousand fold by other punters out there.
Because of the uncertainty at the moment - and the fact that I have to book in the next week or so - unless it is settled soon I will have to look at easyJet, Turkish or Pegasus instead. This will cause BA to lose more custom and must be replicated a thousand fold by other punters out there.
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From: UK
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From: Liverpool
Finding it hard to believe Derek Simpson thought it was appropriate to give a running commentary on the talks throughout this afternoon on Twitter 
Derek Simpson (derekamicus) on Twitter
Pretty much sums up the professionalism of Unite!
Derek Simpson (derekamicus) on Twitter
Pretty much sums up the professionalism of Unite!
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From: UK
Looks like this is where today's drama got started: -
Right to Work conference shows opposition to BA boss Willie Walsh|22May10|Socialist Worker
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Right to Work conference shows opposition to BA boss Willie Walsh|22May10|Socialist Worker
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One of the highlights of the day came when a striking British Airways (BA) cabin crew worker addressed the rally. He received a standing ovation, after explaining how the BA’s cuts affected staff and how their situation was misrepresented in the media. He pointed out that his basic salary was only £12,000....
....many supporters wanted to actively show their support for the strikers. They heard that BA boss Willie Walsh was holding talks nearby.
Some 200 conference participants marched from its venue at Friends Meeting House to Euston Towers, where Walsh was meeting Unite union negotiators at the Acas conciliation service.
....many supporters wanted to actively show their support for the strikers. They heard that BA boss Willie Walsh was holding talks nearby.
Some 200 conference participants marched from its venue at Friends Meeting House to Euston Towers, where Walsh was meeting Unite union negotiators at the Acas conciliation service.