First Choice - drunk punter tries to leg it at FL350
BBC NEWS | UK | Women try to open door mid-flight
Only when the criminals who get drunk and endanger and abuse other passengers and crew pay the full price for their deeds will this issue start to be addressed. The full price being paying the full cost of the diversion and all associated costs and some time alone to dwell upon their actions.
Only when the criminals who get drunk and endanger and abuse other passengers and crew pay the full price for their deeds will this issue start to be addressed. The full price being paying the full cost of the diversion and all associated costs and some time alone to dwell upon their actions.
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I’m slightly confused, which is of course a big step forwards from my normal state…
Lets say I’m on the emergency exit row… The door over the wing. The diagram pretty specifically shows me that if I pull the cover off, pull the lever down I can then pull the door towards me and then chuck it out the ‘window’.
How is that emergency door held in place by air pressure at 35,000 ft? Because the pressure is on the inside pushing out. But whats to stop me doing this, as, say we climb to 200ft with the runway still below?
Also, my ex girlfriend (nightmare) was on a Guatamala to UK flight, in the early 80’s, I assume BA has her dad was FCO and the front left door opened, she showed me the newspaper clipping so on this occasion she was not in a fantasy land lying her little brain out so how could that happen (given the air pressure). I believe it was a 747.
I thought, stupidly, that the “cabin doors to cross check” (or similar?) was about checking the arming of the door’s locks?
Lastly, I’ll just state it hear and now.. Any of you freaks planning on opening a door whilst I am on the flight will get the famous “Mr Quite Happy choke hold” so fast it’ll make your head spin followed by the Mr Quite Happy “method of incapacitation vs knee caps” whilst you sleep. Nobody will be walking you off my plane once we’ve diverted.
Lets say I’m on the emergency exit row… The door over the wing. The diagram pretty specifically shows me that if I pull the cover off, pull the lever down I can then pull the door towards me and then chuck it out the ‘window’.
How is that emergency door held in place by air pressure at 35,000 ft? Because the pressure is on the inside pushing out. But whats to stop me doing this, as, say we climb to 200ft with the runway still below?
Also, my ex girlfriend (nightmare) was on a Guatamala to UK flight, in the early 80’s, I assume BA has her dad was FCO and the front left door opened, she showed me the newspaper clipping so on this occasion she was not in a fantasy land lying her little brain out so how could that happen (given the air pressure). I believe it was a 747.
I thought, stupidly, that the “cabin doors to cross check” (or similar?) was about checking the arming of the door’s locks?
Lastly, I’ll just state it hear and now.. Any of you freaks planning on opening a door whilst I am on the flight will get the famous “Mr Quite Happy choke hold” so fast it’ll make your head spin followed by the Mr Quite Happy “method of incapacitation vs knee caps” whilst you sleep. Nobody will be walking you off my plane once we’ve diverted.
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So why divert then?
So why then, if the doors can't physically be opened in flight due to the pressure differential, does the plane have to make a precautionary diversion/landing if someone tries such a thing .. as seems to be the implication from the original report?
Is it to avoid mass hysteria developing because most other passengers don't realise the doors can't be opened at altitude having seen too many technically inaccurate air disaster/thriller movies?
Maybe the two things - pax attempts to open the door at 35k' and the captain's decision to divert - are not linked at all.
Is it to avoid mass hysteria developing because most other passengers don't realise the doors can't be opened at altitude having seen too many technically inaccurate air disaster/thriller movies?
Maybe the two things - pax attempts to open the door at 35k' and the captain's decision to divert - are not linked at all.
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Yer but no but, I take your point but passengers have been known to do far worse things than simply try to open an impossible-to-open door without the crew feeling the need to take a really really expensive step (both in cost and airline reputation) such as a diversion. I guess there are some first time fliers who may be disorientated and not realise what they are doing when they try to open an external door not meaning to cause a threat. Would a plane divert under these cricumstances?
What actually happens if someone at 35k' tries to shift the door handle to the open position and they are not detected for a moment or two?? Just curious really.
Surely there must be more to it than just wanting to get an idiot off the plane which would be welcome I'm sure. Suspect we dont have the full facts about his behaviour.
What actually happens if someone at 35k' tries to shift the door handle to the open position and they are not detected for a moment or two?? Just curious really.
Surely there must be more to it than just wanting to get an idiot off the plane which would be welcome I'm sure. Suspect we dont have the full facts about his behaviour.
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The women in the BBC story were also drunk, abusive and needed to be restrained until after landing.
I mean, just how much more do you need before you decide that these passengers are a menace that need to be offloaded after diverting?
