Using handheld GPS on commercial flight
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Tightslot,
Are you being serious?
Are portable GPS devices not sold specifically for use as aircraft navigation?
I've been a professional airline pilot for almost 20 years. I've used many such devices. I know my passengers have as well.
This whole idea of interference from a GPS which only receives signals (no transmitting capability whatsoever) is ridiculous.
These things ARE USED FOR AIRBORNE NAVIGATION. LEGALLY! Get in practically any general aviation aircraft and you'll see that. They are built for aviation use.
I don't think a passenger switching on the same thing on a commercial flight is going to change things up.
Are you being serious?
Are portable GPS devices not sold specifically for use as aircraft navigation?
I've been a professional airline pilot for almost 20 years. I've used many such devices. I know my passengers have as well.
This whole idea of interference from a GPS which only receives signals (no transmitting capability whatsoever) is ridiculous.
These things ARE USED FOR AIRBORNE NAVIGATION. LEGALLY! Get in practically any general aviation aircraft and you'll see that. They are built for aviation use.
I don't think a passenger switching on the same thing on a commercial flight is going to change things up.
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TWApilot - I have simply asked that you read previous posts: This may involve your acceptance of the possibility that you are not a definitive authority as a pre-requisite.
There are numerous threads on the subject, in this, and other forums. Most particularly I would draw your attention to posts by radeng who can speak with some experience.
I would further draw your attention to previous threads/posts where the difficulty of effectively policing the use of electronic devices that may not be fully understood either by the crew, the airlines, the passengers, the manufacturers themselves or most commonly some combination of them all, is discussed.
In short - there are a number of intelligent views on the subject. No one person has a monopoly on correct answers, including yourself. Taking the time to actually read previous threads/posts will explain further.
There are numerous threads on the subject, in this, and other forums. Most particularly I would draw your attention to posts by radeng who can speak with some experience.
I would further draw your attention to previous threads/posts where the difficulty of effectively policing the use of electronic devices that may not be fully understood either by the crew, the airlines, the passengers, the manufacturers themselves or most commonly some combination of them all, is discussed.
In short - there are a number of intelligent views on the subject. No one person has a monopoly on correct answers, including yourself. Taking the time to actually read previous threads/posts will explain further.
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Tightslot,
I do not pretend to be an authority on this or any other subject.
Also, it is not required or even suggested that one be an authority on anything to post on this board or any other public board.
I also do not have time to read the scores of back posts on whatever subject I choose to post on. I have a job and a life.
When someone reads a thread and chooses to comment on it, they should feel free to do so without having their feet put to the fire because they are not as versed in the subject as the "experts."
It is people such as yourself cause most people reading boards like this to be lurkers instead of posters. That is a shame. Prior to posting, should a person make certain they've spent sufficient time reading endless pages of back postings and perhaps even outside study to make certain they are not berated and accused of embarrassing themselves since they don't know as much as the "experts" on the subject who read the boards?
That would be absurd. This is a public board for the exchange of RUMORS (as stated in the title) and OPINIONS. I do not say facts, because anyone taking something posted on any public message board as a fact does so at their peril, and that borders on foolishness.
Persons such as yourself take the fun out of sites such as this. How many people would like to post, but choose not to because of responses such as yours?
What a shame.
I do not pretend to be an authority on this or any other subject.
Also, it is not required or even suggested that one be an authority on anything to post on this board or any other public board.
I also do not have time to read the scores of back posts on whatever subject I choose to post on. I have a job and a life.
When someone reads a thread and chooses to comment on it, they should feel free to do so without having their feet put to the fire because they are not as versed in the subject as the "experts."
It is people such as yourself cause most people reading boards like this to be lurkers instead of posters. That is a shame. Prior to posting, should a person make certain they've spent sufficient time reading endless pages of back postings and perhaps even outside study to make certain they are not berated and accused of embarrassing themselves since they don't know as much as the "experts" on the subject who read the boards?
That would be absurd. This is a public board for the exchange of RUMORS (as stated in the title) and OPINIONS. I do not say facts, because anyone taking something posted on any public message board as a fact does so at their peril, and that borders on foolishness.
Persons such as yourself take the fun out of sites such as this. How many people would like to post, but choose not to because of responses such as yours?
What a shame.
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There are numerous threads on the subject, in this, and other forums. Most particularly I would draw your attention to posts by radeng who can speak with some experience.
It's not really a question of being an 'authority' on anything...its simply a case of knowing that a GPS system designed for use on an aircraft can safely be used in an aircraft.
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Well, at the risk of really throwing A1 on the flames ...
It is important to say that TightSlot very rarely intervenes. I would say that the kind of replies given in this thread are the strongest I have seen from this most mild of moderators.
The reason that this subject has produced a strong reaction is that it has surfaced here many, many times and all of the questions - and multiple replies - are available. TightSlot is operational cabin crew and has to monitor equipment usage in everyday work and can give good information.
Whilst this forum (and all of PPRuNe) is open for people to post their views etc., bear in mind that we are here because others give their free time to keep the whole show on the road. This system was set up for professional pilots and they have made space available for those of us that wish to play by their rules. If we do not like the rules, we can go. Whilst it is a 'public' board, it is privately owned and run.
As I have said, in the many moons that I have been part of this forum, I have seen nothing but patience and tolerance towards all. What may have tipped the balance is the "Are you being serious?" When TS gets back from work (and regular life, just like TWApilot) to moderate this forum for free - it might be rather galling to have people be so disparaging.
It is important to say that TightSlot very rarely intervenes. I would say that the kind of replies given in this thread are the strongest I have seen from this most mild of moderators.
The reason that this subject has produced a strong reaction is that it has surfaced here many, many times and all of the questions - and multiple replies - are available. TightSlot is operational cabin crew and has to monitor equipment usage in everyday work and can give good information.
Whilst this forum (and all of PPRuNe) is open for people to post their views etc., bear in mind that we are here because others give their free time to keep the whole show on the road. This system was set up for professional pilots and they have made space available for those of us that wish to play by their rules. If we do not like the rules, we can go. Whilst it is a 'public' board, it is privately owned and run.
As I have said, in the many moons that I have been part of this forum, I have seen nothing but patience and tolerance towards all. What may have tipped the balance is the "Are you being serious?" When TS gets back from work (and regular life, just like TWApilot) to moderate this forum for free - it might be rather galling to have people be so disparaging.
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OK - enough now!
There are so many irritating things about TWApilot's last post that I've lost the will to lose my temper. If you genuinely cannot understand why you should search for and then read the information that already exists, then there will be nothing that I can say that will change your mind.
Since this thread is no longer about the use of GPS it can be safely closed.
There are so many irritating things about TWApilot's last post that I've lost the will to lose my temper. If you genuinely cannot understand why you should search for and then read the information that already exists, then there will be nothing that I can say that will change your mind.
Since this thread is no longer about the use of GPS it can be safely closed.
