Annoyed with other pax attitudes... Nimes to Luton & back again
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Maybe you should read F3Gs comments again, he was simply illustrating how easy it can be to jump to, incorrect, assumptions. Which is exactly what you've just done, again.....
Maybe you should read F3Gs comments again, he was simply illustrating how easy it can be to jump to, incorrect, assumptions. Which is exactly what you've just done, again.....
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Just thought I'd add my experiences to this one.
I have flown Ryanair on several occassions now and never had a problem with them, you just have to obey their rules, its not hard. Also regarding boarding Ryan air have when I have flown with them always anounced boarding of priority boarders and people with young children first. So in Ryanairs defence the family with the child should of been ready for boarding at the gate near the front of the queue, I'm not suggesting the women who finally moved was in the right, just trying to defend Ryanair.
With regard to other pax being annoying on flights I encountered it myself on a recent longhaul trip returning to the UK. The first one was a pax who moved from his own seat, about 3 hours into a 10 hour flight, into a free seat in front of me. This wasn't a problem, he the preceded to recline his seat fully, this again wasn't a problem. The problem arose while and after having an inflight meal about 4 hours out. This bloke, and he wasn't British, didn't return his seat to the upright position while he ate although he sat upright the whole time, this meant for me to eat I either had to sit upright cramped up or reclined and uncomfortable to eat. After the meal he sat back but the proceded to figit the whole way while I was trying to watch the in flight entertainment in the back of his seat. Around this point he also for some reseaon tried to recline the empty seat next to him, in front of my girl friend, at which the two of use lent forward onto it to stop him.
On the same flight we had someone sat next to the window over the wing then 3 spare seats and then me and my girlfriend. This bloke had a fasination with opening the blinds (on the left hand side on a transatlantic flight) and looking out of the window. This caused us to be blinded by sunlight bouncing off the wing and entering the cabin. We asked cabin crew if they could ask him to stop which they did. This unfortunatley just turned this middle aged bloke into a naughty school kid. For the last hour or so he kept snatching cheeky looks out the window or partly opening the blind, thus blinding us every time.
To cap the trip off for our connecting flight I was assinged a window seat having put up with aisle seats on 5 previous sector on the trip I was looking forward to a bit of a change only to board the plane to find some bloke sat in it. I ended up sitting on the aisle again and my girlfriend sat in the middle next to this bloke. He was sat as wide legged as possible taking up room where my girlfriends legs were meant to be and proceded to fall asleep!
Being fairly reserved as we are the two of us complained only once about the whole episode and that only seemed to bring out the naughty boy in a middle aged man.
At the end of the day the nightmare pax are out there you just have to deal with them. We took 6 flights and only encountered problems on 2.
Anyway at the end of the day what point is there getting worked up about it these pains in the neck are only in our lives for a short space of time. Plus it gives me at least something to talk about on here
I have flown Ryanair on several occassions now and never had a problem with them, you just have to obey their rules, its not hard. Also regarding boarding Ryan air have when I have flown with them always anounced boarding of priority boarders and people with young children first. So in Ryanairs defence the family with the child should of been ready for boarding at the gate near the front of the queue, I'm not suggesting the women who finally moved was in the right, just trying to defend Ryanair.
With regard to other pax being annoying on flights I encountered it myself on a recent longhaul trip returning to the UK. The first one was a pax who moved from his own seat, about 3 hours into a 10 hour flight, into a free seat in front of me. This wasn't a problem, he the preceded to recline his seat fully, this again wasn't a problem. The problem arose while and after having an inflight meal about 4 hours out. This bloke, and he wasn't British, didn't return his seat to the upright position while he ate although he sat upright the whole time, this meant for me to eat I either had to sit upright cramped up or reclined and uncomfortable to eat. After the meal he sat back but the proceded to figit the whole way while I was trying to watch the in flight entertainment in the back of his seat. Around this point he also for some reseaon tried to recline the empty seat next to him, in front of my girl friend, at which the two of use lent forward onto it to stop him.
On the same flight we had someone sat next to the window over the wing then 3 spare seats and then me and my girlfriend. This bloke had a fasination with opening the blinds (on the left hand side on a transatlantic flight) and looking out of the window. This caused us to be blinded by sunlight bouncing off the wing and entering the cabin. We asked cabin crew if they could ask him to stop which they did. This unfortunatley just turned this middle aged bloke into a naughty school kid. For the last hour or so he kept snatching cheeky looks out the window or partly opening the blind, thus blinding us every time.
To cap the trip off for our connecting flight I was assinged a window seat having put up with aisle seats on 5 previous sector on the trip I was looking forward to a bit of a change only to board the plane to find some bloke sat in it. I ended up sitting on the aisle again and my girlfriend sat in the middle next to this bloke. He was sat as wide legged as possible taking up room where my girlfriends legs were meant to be and proceded to fall asleep!
Being fairly reserved as we are the two of us complained only once about the whole episode and that only seemed to bring out the naughty boy in a middle aged man.
At the end of the day the nightmare pax are out there you just have to deal with them. We took 6 flights and only encountered problems on 2.
Anyway at the end of the day what point is there getting worked up about it these pains in the neck are only in our lives for a short space of time. Plus it gives me at least something to talk about on here
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I have flown Ryanair on several occassions now and never had a problem with them, you just have to obey their rules, its not hard.
I speak from experience with this one - my Stepdad - normally a lovely wonderful man - gets on an aircraft and becomes Mr. Hyde. He almost had an EZY flight to Nice turn back to Luton about 5 mins after takeoff over going to the toilet before the seatbelt signs were turned off...
He is the kind of pax I despise
As an aside - I remember when I was in the "sky café" or whatever it is called at CDG, a prattish Brit businessman was in front of me. The poor girl behind the counter could not understand his *awful* attempt at ordering a croissant in French, and he eventually got so annoyed he resorted to calling her a "bloody frog".
And this was no doubt a pillar of our community in England...
Also regarding boarding Ryan air have when I have flown with them always anounced boarding of priority boarders and people with young children first. So in Ryanairs defence the family with the child should of been ready for boarding at the gate near the front of the queue, I'm not suggesting the women who finally moved was in the right, just trying to defend Ryanair.
Onion - I sympathise with you. I doubt I would have been able to hold my tongue
Curiously enough, that is more or less exactly what the Duke of Wellington said when the first passenger trains were introduced in the 19th century.
He was quoted as being against them on the grounds that the common people would want to travel, and that might lead to revolution. Substitute "pond scum" for "the common people" and it all begins to sound very familiar!
He was quoted as being against them on the grounds that the common people would want to travel, and that might lead to revolution. Substitute "pond scum" for "the common people" and it all begins to sound very familiar!
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Martin
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Aah Onion, the window blind thing! Don't take my comments as being aimed at you personally because I don't know if you were on an overnight flight or not. As for lowering the window blinds, personally I have a little problem with that depending on the time of day. If I'm travelling say AMS-JFK westbound during the middle of the day I don't particularly want to be in near total darkness. It's daytime and I'd like my daylight please. To save making a fuss I tend to abide however I get a bit grumpy about it. Eastbound is another matter. I recently flew overnight from Vancouver to Amsterdam. At this time of the year on such northerly tracks it's daylight all the way. Whether I wish to sleep or not, it's technically night time and I'll lower the window shade no problem. There are posters who would say that it is inconsiderate to others not wanting to lower the blind (on a daytime westbound flight). My contention is that it is just as inconsiderate wanting to force daylight away from those who may prefer to be in daylight during daytime. I'm not looking for confrontation but just pointing out that there are two sides to this problem.
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Spot on.
My "local" route is not popular with Lager Louts, Club 18 - 30 types or Hen Parties ( shame). More likely the clientel are city/legal/lovie types visiting their second/third homes. Nevertheless put them within 50 metres of the gate for the free seating flight and young children are at risk of being trampled underfoot....and don't get me started at the nonsense that goes on during boarding itself.
And why do they insist on doing the same when flying with the alternative, full service, pre-allocated seat outfit?
My "local" route is not popular with Lager Louts, Club 18 - 30 types or Hen Parties ( shame). More likely the clientel are city/legal/lovie types visiting their second/third homes. Nevertheless put them within 50 metres of the gate for the free seating flight and young children are at risk of being trampled underfoot....and don't get me started at the nonsense that goes on during boarding itself.
And why do they insist on doing the same when flying with the alternative, full service, pre-allocated seat outfit?
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Avman the flight in question was a eastbound from the west coast of the states. So the blind situation was annoying. I agree on westbound flights its slightly different. What annoyed me most about the situation was the way the middle aged bloke became a naughty little boy stealing peeks out the window after he had been asked to close it. That was more irritating than having the sun on us before he was asked to close it.
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Talking of pre-boarding for children....which this touches on, asked at Gatwick recently if pre-boarding was available as we were travelling with an infant (Monarch to Cuba). Answer - 'No, if we let you, everyone with infants will want to pre-board'. Erm, yeah, that's the idea - doh!
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Talking of pre-boarding for children....which this touches on, asked at Gatwick recently if pre-boarding was available as we were travelling with an infant (Monarch to Cuba). Answer - 'No, if we let you, everyone with infants will want to pre-board'. Erm, yeah, that's the idea - doh!
