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As the issue of seating has been closed on the other forums, heres a continuation of that thread.
re GLS-SFB and other flight issues.
Globespan have leased their only 767's to Air India. They are currently leasing 2 x 767's from NEOS and are attempting to refit these with a cut down business class (with 38" pitch as opposed to 50"). Premium and ecconomy is in doubt as no one at Globespan will confirm what the seating will be.
As of today the known situation is :
Globespan are leasing 2 x 767 from NEOS as theirs have gone to Air India to make them even more money.
The original seating in these NEOS 767's was 280 seats single class, 232 config, no personal IFE.
They are attempting to refit to some kind of business, premium, ecconomy config but have refused to confirm when questioned.
The current status of GLA-SFB flights for the 2007 summer season is unknown. GS have stated that passengers on these flights who have already booked will receive an e-mail/telephone call within the next 48 hours detailing the changes.. This doesn't bode well for those who have now paid for business/premium seating and could now be dumped in a cramped seat without the additional services they have paid for.
I will be posting whenever I get more news but so far its not looking good for GS. Selling seats on aircraft they dont have, charging customers for services they wont get and for those who have checked their website, you'll notice the 50" seat pitch has been removed from flights and been replaced with 'Generous Seat Pitch'... Generous in Aircraft speak can be as little as 30"... Economy and Premium have the same wording.....
Watch this space..............
If you have abooking with Globespan I would be very worried right now and I advise calling them ASAP to confirm you are getting what you have booked and will actually be able to fly on the dates you need.
It is indeed a worrying time if you are a Globespan customer.
re GLS-SFB and other flight issues.
Globespan have leased their only 767's to Air India. They are currently leasing 2 x 767's from NEOS and are attempting to refit these with a cut down business class (with 38" pitch as opposed to 50"). Premium and ecconomy is in doubt as no one at Globespan will confirm what the seating will be.
As of today the known situation is :
Globespan are leasing 2 x 767 from NEOS as theirs have gone to Air India to make them even more money.
The original seating in these NEOS 767's was 280 seats single class, 232 config, no personal IFE.
They are attempting to refit to some kind of business, premium, ecconomy config but have refused to confirm when questioned.
The current status of GLA-SFB flights for the 2007 summer season is unknown. GS have stated that passengers on these flights who have already booked will receive an e-mail/telephone call within the next 48 hours detailing the changes.. This doesn't bode well for those who have now paid for business/premium seating and could now be dumped in a cramped seat without the additional services they have paid for.
I will be posting whenever I get more news but so far its not looking good for GS. Selling seats on aircraft they dont have, charging customers for services they wont get and for those who have checked their website, you'll notice the 50" seat pitch has been removed from flights and been replaced with 'Generous Seat Pitch'... Generous in Aircraft speak can be as little as 30"... Economy and Premium have the same wording.....
Watch this space..............
If you have abooking with Globespan I would be very worried right now and I advise calling them ASAP to confirm you are getting what you have booked and will actually be able to fly on the dates you need.
It is indeed a worrying time if you are a Globespan customer.
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Latest from GS. flights to SFB will be using 767 and 757. GS have refused to confirm the source of the 757 and as yet there are no confirmed agreements with any leasing agents with GS for them to aquire 757's. The deal with Iceland Air went pear shaped and fell through so it wont be theirs, there is a possiblity it could be Excel Airways but that hasn't been confirmed. If the do end up with a 757, it will seriously impact the sched as that aircraft wont make it across the pond in a single hop so the direct flight option goes out the window.
The only 767'sGS are left with are leased from NEOS. These are ex KLM aircraft and were refitted on Greensboro to a single calss, 280 seats so would have to be refitted again to offer 3 class layout. thats a lot of dosh to put out on a short term lease..
GS have refused to confirm anything. Cant confirm aircraft, cant confirm seating, Cant guarantee 50" or even 38" seat pitch at this time, cant confirm booking wont be changed or even cancelled... this simply isn't good enough.
The only 767'sGS are left with are leased from NEOS. These are ex KLM aircraft and were refitted on Greensboro to a single calss, 280 seats so would have to be refitted again to offer 3 class layout. thats a lot of dosh to put out on a short term lease..
GS have refused to confirm anything. Cant confirm aircraft, cant confirm seating, Cant guarantee 50" or even 38" seat pitch at this time, cant confirm booking wont be changed or even cancelled... this simply isn't good enough.
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Well if there is 50 inches worth of seating, are these 767's 300's? If so are they the same door wise as the GSM fleet.
Most 767-300's have a 6 door config 2 front 2 middle and 2 aft, GSM's dont they have 4, 2 front 2 aft, and 4 mini exits on the wing.
Is the reason they cant have 50" because they are 200's or that there is a problem with this middle door option?
Most 767-300's have a 6 door config 2 front 2 middle and 2 aft, GSM's dont they have 4, 2 front 2 aft, and 4 mini exits on the wing.
Is the reason they cant have 50" because they are 200's or that there is a problem with this middle door option?
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Not the same door config as GSM.
Lease a/c have 2 doors either side in front of wing, 2 emergency doors behind wing and 2 doors at the back.
Should be no problem with seat pitch, this door config is for high capacity.
Lease a/c have 2 doors either side in front of wing, 2 emergency doors behind wing and 2 doors at the back.
Should be no problem with seat pitch, this door config is for high capacity.
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Merde!!!
I have just booked a business class single SF-GLA and noticed the 50" seat pitch had been removed. I am flying back from Sanford on 29th March, anyone got any idea which aircraft I'll be on?
I have just booked a business class single SF-GLA and noticed the 50" seat pitch had been removed. I am flying back from Sanford on 29th March, anyone got any idea which aircraft I'll be on?
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this threat was closed on A A and R and the mod advised a move 2 P and S L F i opened a thread on the seat pitch guide being removed from globespans site early in january and you CLOSED it is this not the place for pax 2 find out what is going on, if you had spent 9,000euro for yourself and 7 family members for a service that u are not going 2 get you would be asking questions . i hope globespan get sorted out because the service onboard is great and the crew will be the ones suffering .
this threat was closed on A A and R and the mod advised a move 2 P and S L F i opened a thread on the seat pitch guide being removed from globespans site early in january and you CLOSED it is this not the place for pax 2 find out what is going on, if you had spent 9,000euro for yourself and 7 family members for a service that u are not going 2 get you would be asking questions . i hope globespan get sorted out because the service onboard is great and the crew will be the ones suffering .
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A search of your previous posting history reveals something of an obsession with Globespan: Mods find that this sets off alarm bells, since single issue posting can sometimes topple over into vendetta.
Run with this if you wish, but please resist the temptation to give us daily updates on every twist and turn in the saga.
Run with this if you wish, but please resist the temptation to give us daily updates on every twist and turn in the saga.
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i used this forum to find out about the service and the seat ect i go to orlando 5-6 times a year so globespan and i will be spending a lot of time together as they have the only direct service from my country 2 orlando i have travelled with them three times bfs-sfb in five months so if i had anything bad 2 say about them it would have come out by now and if someone wanting 2 know what is going on is to boring for you that is your problem
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Moderator : Sorry mate, I thought forums were used to give people access to information they normally wouldn't have.
I dont have a vendetta agains GS but I, like many other travellers, do have an interest.
I would hope that anyone who had any information on an Airline would use such outlets to pass that information on. An apparently small change to the airline may jeopardise hundreds of peoples travel plans or the level of service they are parting with their hard earned cash to enjoy.
I for one am delighted there are such forums available and use them extensiveley to research each and every trip I make and any piece of information, no matter how small or trivial it may seem, can make the difference between making, keeping or cancelling a booking.
The more people who access this info the better as it will put pressure on the airlines to improve the service they offer or lose custom. Your forums are packed with this type of inforamtion and I appreciate your efforts in keeping it alive.
I don't have an issue with moving the threads to another location, or closing it completely but please dont chastise those using the web to pass on even the smallest piece of information. That snippet of data can make a world of difference to so many people.
Any hoo.....
More news today....
GS will be using a 757 and 767 to SFB this summer. The 757 is leased from Iceland Air and its been repainted in GS colours and is due to start in April if not before. Business seating pitch is reduced by 25% from 50" to 38" as no internal refit is being done. Data is available on the layout etc on the Iceland Air site. Look under their Saga Class entries.
767's are being reffitted but the one used on the SFB route may have the same 38" pitch so they can squeeze in the extra passengers they cant get on the 757.
GS are planning a single hop 757 excursion to FL from the UK... Bit worrying.
Distance to SFB from GLA : 4200 miles
Range of a loaded 757-200 : 3900ish
Short by : 300. Better get your wellies and water wings ready or hope for a strong tail wind.
Their excuse for it being able to make it is "we will be limiting the cargo on these flights to extend the range".....YEAH RIGHT. Do you seriously think they are going to dump precious cargo income so joe public can take that extra towel to the beach???? Dont think so.
Keep an eye out for your change notifications when you get bumped to the 757, and watch out for the 'Extra' flying time they stick in... It wont mention a stop as it isn't officiallly a stop, refuelling doesnt get a mention.
What ever time you are set to depart, add 4 hours and that should be the local time you are to arrive. Anything else and your stopping somewhere.
As always, as soon as I have any more I'll post...... Moderator willing
I dont have a vendetta agains GS but I, like many other travellers, do have an interest.
I would hope that anyone who had any information on an Airline would use such outlets to pass that information on. An apparently small change to the airline may jeopardise hundreds of peoples travel plans or the level of service they are parting with their hard earned cash to enjoy.
I for one am delighted there are such forums available and use them extensiveley to research each and every trip I make and any piece of information, no matter how small or trivial it may seem, can make the difference between making, keeping or cancelling a booking.
The more people who access this info the better as it will put pressure on the airlines to improve the service they offer or lose custom. Your forums are packed with this type of inforamtion and I appreciate your efforts in keeping it alive.
I don't have an issue with moving the threads to another location, or closing it completely but please dont chastise those using the web to pass on even the smallest piece of information. That snippet of data can make a world of difference to so many people.
Any hoo.....
More news today....
GS will be using a 757 and 767 to SFB this summer. The 757 is leased from Iceland Air and its been repainted in GS colours and is due to start in April if not before. Business seating pitch is reduced by 25% from 50" to 38" as no internal refit is being done. Data is available on the layout etc on the Iceland Air site. Look under their Saga Class entries.
767's are being reffitted but the one used on the SFB route may have the same 38" pitch so they can squeeze in the extra passengers they cant get on the 757.
GS are planning a single hop 757 excursion to FL from the UK... Bit worrying.
Distance to SFB from GLA : 4200 miles
Range of a loaded 757-200 : 3900ish
Short by : 300. Better get your wellies and water wings ready or hope for a strong tail wind.
Their excuse for it being able to make it is "we will be limiting the cargo on these flights to extend the range".....YEAH RIGHT. Do you seriously think they are going to dump precious cargo income so joe public can take that extra towel to the beach???? Dont think so.
Keep an eye out for your change notifications when you get bumped to the 757, and watch out for the 'Extra' flying time they stick in... It wont mention a stop as it isn't officiallly a stop, refuelling doesnt get a mention.
What ever time you are set to depart, add 4 hours and that should be the local time you are to arrive. Anything else and your stopping somewhere.
As always, as soon as I have any more I'll post...... Moderator willing
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Do you know when this is all about to start? I am a bit p'ed off coz I specifically booked GSM business class for the extra leg room. One very unhappy customer here if it is a change to the a/c I thought I was going to fly. Is there any compensation if you do not get what you paid for?
Do you know when this is all about to start? I am a bit p'ed off coz I specifically booked GSM business class for the extra leg room. One very unhappy customer here if it is a change to the a/c I thought I was going to fly. Is there any compensation if you do not get what you paid for?
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757 planned start April or March if they can get it organised in time.
Best to call them and get some info direct. 08700 541 222 is the best number. if its engaged, try again and wait for it to time out before hanging up.... it may ring for quite a while.
Best to call them and get some info direct. 08700 541 222 is the best number. if its engaged, try again and wait for it to time out before hanging up.... it may ring for quite a while.
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GS are planning a single hop 757 excursion to FL from the UK... Bit worrying.
Distance to SFB from GLA : 4200 miles
Range of a loaded 757-200 : 3900ish
Short by : 300. Better get your wellies and water wings ready or hope for a strong tail wind.
Distance to SFB from GLA : 4200 miles
Range of a loaded 757-200 : 3900ish
Short by : 300. Better get your wellies and water wings ready or hope for a strong tail wind.
Although i think it tech stopped in Bangor on the way out for fuel.
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Well I'd like to say that I support your quest fully mm0wkj. I'm millimetres from booking Edinburgh - Hamilton and I'm aware of all the uncertainty regarding GSM and their plans for 2007. The prices are great and airports are convenient but I, like you, would like assurance that if I spend more money on "Premium" that I get what I pay for.
What comeback, in legal terms, would one have if booked on Business class & actually receive the service payed for? Obviously a good insurance policy might help!
I'd like to say, however that I've flown GSM 3/4 times to PFO on the 738 and thought they were fantastic - the crew were great. I trust these issues will be resolved soon, however I don't know whether to book my flight or not
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What comeback, in legal terms, would one have if booked on Business class & actually receive the service payed for? Obviously a good insurance policy might help!
I'd like to say, however that I've flown GSM 3/4 times to PFO on the 738 and thought they were fantastic - the crew were great. I trust these issues will be resolved soon, however I don't know whether to book my flight or not
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