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MR120,
Thanks for posting those links. The article from The Register makes for hilarious, though ultimately sobering, reading. Sobering because the author rightly points out that the danger of explosive devices in hold baggage being detonated by cellphones in the cabin far exceeds the threat posed by the antics of "Chemical Alis" in the lavatory.
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Thanks for posting those links. The article from The Register makes for hilarious, though ultimately sobering, reading. Sobering because the author rightly points out that the danger of explosive devices in hold baggage being detonated by cellphones in the cabin far exceeds the threat posed by the antics of "Chemical Alis" in the lavatory.
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According to the Dragonair website the clear plastic bag and the 100ml limit per item also applies in Japan, Korea and Taiwan effective today
http://www.dragonair.com/icms/servle...=3045&lang=eng
http://www.dragonair.com/icms/servle...=3045&lang=eng
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Allowances....
ACMS.... I stand to be corrected here, and I'm sure you'll find out on the 21st March, or shortly thereafter, but your toothpaste, deo stick will be permitted, but they must be placed in a clear, resealable (ziplock) 1 L (size) bag. You'll only be alowed the 1 bag so all your stuff must fit in the same bag. The liquids will have to be in bottles no bigger than 100ml and placed in the same bag. I guess the average traveller will have 1 tube of toothpaste, 1 deo stick (or 1 100ml size aerosol deo can) plus aftershave in a bottle no bigger than 100ml all in the same 1L size ziplock. This apparently has to be carried through screening seperate to your carryon and can be placed inside your carryon after screening. Exceptions for medicine (with accomplanying medical certificates / Dr. Notes) will be allowed and treated seperately, as will baby milk / formula.
As regards the duty free, anything you buy airside SHOULD be placed in a clear plastic bag and sealed with the receipt showing. When going through security screening (as in a transit Pax) they will inspect that the duty free bag, with the unopened duty free still sealed inside with the receipt. If it's all good, then no problem, if the seal's been broken (too thirsty
) then say goodbye to it as it will be taken off you. I know from 1st hand experience in the US that they are using tamper proof DF bags to seal your booze and liquids in, everything else is in an open bag. If you buy your duty free in DXB (say) and it's not put in a sealed bag with the receipt.... it's going to come to tears
, even if the bottle is not opened (I guess...... this hasn't been confirmed as far as I know...) so I suggest if you're going to be buying DF, check with the shops first that they do have sealled bags before you buy.
Happy Days........
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As regards the duty free, anything you buy airside SHOULD be placed in a clear plastic bag and sealed with the receipt showing. When going through security screening (as in a transit Pax) they will inspect that the duty free bag, with the unopened duty free still sealed inside with the receipt. If it's all good, then no problem, if the seal's been broken (too thirsty
) then say goodbye to it as it will be taken off you. I know from 1st hand experience in the US that they are using tamper proof DF bags to seal your booze and liquids in, everything else is in an open bag. If you buy your duty free in DXB (say) and it's not put in a sealed bag with the receipt.... it's going to come to tears , even if the bottle is not opened (I guess...... this hasn't been confirmed as far as I know...) so I suggest if you're going to be buying DF, check with the shops first that they do have sealled bags before you buy.Happy Days........
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I had my 150ml toothpaste taken off me boarding UA in Singapore a few days ago. 100 ml would have been ok I was told. I was deeply grateful for this prompt and decisive action to save us all from disaster at 30,000 feet. Could I have squeezed out 33% of the contents?
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HKPax,
I guess they nailed you at SIN because you were boarding a US flight. I believe the authorities at Changi have enough common sense to impose these absurd restrictions only on passengers flying to the US or UK. The shoes-off regulation at SXM is no doubt due to the fact that US airlines dominate the heavy-jet traffic in and out of SXM.
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I guess they nailed you at SIN because you were boarding a US flight. I believe the authorities at Changi have enough common sense to impose these absurd restrictions only on passengers flying to the US or UK. The shoes-off regulation at SXM is no doubt due to the fact that US airlines dominate the heavy-jet traffic in and out of SXM.
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I couldn't agree more with the ziploc shares!!!! I went through SFO last week..... they were insisting shoes off and belts off too! This was a quiet time for screening... but I had 1 carry on... 1 laptop removed from carryon for separate screening, separate tray for mobile phone, coins etc.... separate tray for shoes.... then a separate try for my trouser belt! It took a couple of minutes to offload all this for screening.... and then a few more at the other end to get dressed again.... with 5 separate trays to account for....... almost left my watch behind in the panic! Thankfully there were only 2 people behind me..... god only know's what is going to happen on a busy holiday weekend...... lots of claims for mislaid items and oportunist thefts to occur.........
The easyest solution is to pack all your toiletries in your hold baggage and stink out the flight instead! Mind you..... if you're in the US, the chance of your hold baggage arriving at the correct destination with you at the same time is remote....
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Thankfully there were only 2 people behind me..... god only know's what is going to happen on a busy holiday weekend...... lots of claims for mislaid items and oportunist thefts to occur......... The easyest solution is to pack all your toiletries in your hold baggage and stink out the flight instead! Mind you..... if you're in the US, the chance of your hold baggage arriving at the correct destination with you at the same time is remote....
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i go to the U S 5 or 6 times a year it is a pain taking shoes ,belt,hat,watch,ect ect but if it makes travelling 1% more safe its has to be worth doing .
if i keep any metal on me at all i send the screening machine mad so i remove all into the tray. last year in newark i left my wedding ring in the corner of a tray i went back 30 seconds later it was gone it vanished into some security guards pocket assho1e
if i keep any metal on me at all i send the screening machine mad so i remove all into the tray. last year in newark i left my wedding ring in the corner of a tray i went back 30 seconds later it was gone it vanished into some security guards pocket assho1e
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OK - question for you all.
The cabin baggage rules from UK require you to have one bag x by y by z in size and chapesses have to put their hand bag into it to pass through the BAA security shambles. But are you allowed to carry that (stereotypically British) accessory - the umbrella - in addition to your suitably sized bag as well? You can wear/carry a coat, so perhaps such an item might be on the approved list??
I ask because I am charged by Mrs Hac to bring back a Chinese parasol from my next HK trip and I have little enthusiasm for my carefully selected purchase to be consigned to the pile of confiscated (and no doubt expensive) items as I pass through HK and subsequently UK security on my way home....
The cabin baggage rules from UK require you to have one bag x by y by z in size and chapesses have to put their hand bag into it to pass through the BAA security shambles. But are you allowed to carry that (stereotypically British) accessory - the umbrella - in addition to your suitably sized bag as well? You can wear/carry a coat, so perhaps such an item might be on the approved list??
I ask because I am charged by Mrs Hac to bring back a Chinese parasol from my next HK trip and I have little enthusiasm for my carefully selected purchase to be consigned to the pile of confiscated (and no doubt expensive) items as I pass through HK and subsequently UK security on my way home....
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HAC
I have just looked at the CX cabin baggage guide, issued pre clear plastic bag era, and you are allowed an umbrella.
However, a Chinese umbrella has those nice bamboo spokes, poking of eye out for the use of, and more rigid than the normal metal spokes. I do not know in the current climate whether you could hand carry such a potential weapon or not.
I suppose you could pack it in a fishing rod case and mark it fragile, ha ha.
Incidentally, you may also carry crutches on board, which I suppose you might need if Mrs HAC does not get her umbrella.
Good luck
I have just looked at the CX cabin baggage guide, issued pre clear plastic bag era, and you are allowed an umbrella.
However, a Chinese umbrella has those nice bamboo spokes, poking of eye out for the use of, and more rigid than the normal metal spokes. I do not know in the current climate whether you could hand carry such a potential weapon or not.
I suppose you could pack it in a fishing rod case and mark it fragile, ha ha.
Incidentally, you may also carry crutches on board, which I suppose you might need if Mrs HAC does not get her umbrella.
Good luck
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Thanks P pa for that.
I've just been through IoM security and took the opportunity to ask one of the staff about an umbrella. He said it depended on the airline, and it would be OK with BA. Now that suggests thay it isn't a security issue....despite the spikes and things. Ho hum.
I've just been through IoM security and took the opportunity to ask one of the staff about an umbrella. He said it depended on the airline, and it would be OK with BA. Now that suggests thay it isn't a security issue....despite the spikes and things. Ho hum.
