Ryanair Flight Booked 5th Jan- Increased Tax - Confused......

[h73kr]

....can anyone please give me a definitive answer. Basically, booked tickets with Ryanair on the 5th January. Will I need to pay more tax or not?

Any definitive advice would be most welcome, thanks in advance.

[PPRuNe Pop]

As I understand it from the press reports today yes you will. What's more, also in the press, if you do not pay BEFORE your due date and turn up at the airport they WILL turn you away.

Best advice seems to be to contact them as swiftly as you can.

This has to be one of the worst possible decisions by this government. Sorry!

[Getoutofmygalley]

You haven't said when the flights are that you have booked!

It has been widely publicised this weekend on the news that Ryanair along with most other airlines (BA excluded) will expect all pax to stump up the extra tax or you will not be allowed to fly.

Ryanair have gone as far as to say that you need to pay it BEFORE you get to the airport or you might be denied travel.

But, if you really want a definitive answer regarding Ryanair flights, why not try telephoning Ryanair? Details of how to contact them can be found on their web site.

[h73kr]

Flights are 3rd Feb and 6th Feb. Fair point, should contact Ryanair but presumably it wil be premium rate call if I know them. Just hoped someone here might know for sure. I saw Simon Calder on TV suggesting it only being a problem with Ryanair if you booked before end of December, as they took it in to acount in the prices thereafter. What a ball ache this whole flying busines is becoming, first 'security' debacle, now this!

[Bangkokeasy]

I fear this is very much the thin end of the wedge; in the UK, the lunatic fringe has got the airline industry firmly in its sights. There is something perverse in their logic, it being that, because flying may still be affordable, it should be taxed, presumably because it is the only method of transport left that has not yet been milked to the limit. In reality, the only truly "green" thing a person can do is not to be born at all.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

h73kr, your second post should be correct, in that you should not need to pay any more.
I am surprised that no one before your second post spotted that you booked a month after the tax was introduced by Brown.
It's not like us at PPRuNe to get it wrong.

[Based]

Ryanair have the information up on their website now. Any bookings made before December 7th will have the additional taxes automatically charged to the credit card used for the booking!

[jack_essex]

If you booked your tickets in Jan 07 then you will not have to pay any extra. It says that bookings made on or after 7th Dec 06 already include the increased Air Passenger Duty Tax.

Well this is the way I understood the website :-) But you never know!

[skydriller]

Originally Posted by Based

Ryanair have the information up on their website now. Any bookings made before December 7th will have the additional taxes automatically charged to the credit card used for the booking!

Is this actually allowed? If so, how? You only autherised the ticket price as originally quoted to come off your card, so anything else is fraud, no?

[James 1077]

Originally Posted by skydriller

Is this actually allowed? If so, how? You only autherised the ticket price as originally quoted to come off your card, so anything else is fraud, no?

I think that it is allowed in the same way as if you pay for a car rental and you damage the car they will just take the money off your card without you signing anything. Credit card companies treat goods and services differently to allow for these eventualities.

[h73kr]

I looked at their website before posting here but found nothing at the time, and I can't call their number from work, and by the time I get home their offices are long closed. Thanks to all the above who replied and put my mind at rest. Now all I have to do is phone them at some time to prepay for having the audacity to take one piece of luggage per person, oh the glamour of aviation!

'Yes Sir, the flight is indeed 1p, but you still have to pay the :-

-The Baggage Fee
-The Check-in Fee
-The Providing Cabin Crew Fee
-The Providing Flight Deck Crew Fee
-The Ops/Crewing/Maintrol Staffing Fee
-The Baggage Loading Fee
-The Baggage Unloading Fee
-The Refuelling Fee

etc etc....

[gdiphil]

A political point

I sometimes wonder if it is me who is going mad, or the politicians. We all accept with greater or lesser amount of grumbles the amount of tax we have to pay. But, to have to pay a retrospective tax really gets my goat. Then I get to thinking about the political sanity of the individual who has imposed this and who also expects to be the next Prime Minister without being voted into the job by the electorate. Presumably he wants to get the job again at the next general election but he seems to have done the one thing which can offend everyone, that is, tax pleasure. I don't mean flying itself of course, but the fact that a lot of us these days use our remaining net income to enjoy ourselves by buying a cheap flight/holiday or indeed an expensive one. And now it is firmly implanted in our psyche that we will have to, and indeed in the future may be hit again, to pay a tax which is unexpected and undesired. And what is more we are brought into conflict with the other party to our contract by an outsider demanding that we alter our relationship. Now, is this the action of someone who is sane, who should be exercising political acumen? Or is this man a fool from a political standpoint? In my wilder mad moments I find myself as the greatest supporter of the Scottish National Party and their desire for Scotland to be independent. It is a Scotsman who has imposed the strangest and clearly the most aggravating way of ensuring our safety in airports and on aircraft. And it is Scotsman who is seizing money on an poorly thought through eco-scam. But I'm only an Englishman and what do I matter these days?

[masalaairlines]

Originally Posted by James 1077

I think that it is allowed in the same way as if you pay for a car rental and you damage the car they will just take the money off your card without you signing anything. Credit card companies treat goods and services differently to allow for these eventualities.

Yes... but you give them prior consent to do this. Not with Ryanair. I have checked their terms and conditions.

I just spotted the sections on Taxes (Article 4) or Credit/Dabit Cards (Article 17) of the General Terms and Conditions and it mentions nothing about them allowing to collect funds off my account automatically without authorisation. Indeed they are not allowed to even store my Debit Card details to take money off at their fancy!

I have a problem in that they want to charge me for a flight I do not even intend to take (and I have already written to them 2 weeks ago to say I do not intend on taking it!) It was part of a multi-day trip where one flight was so seriously rescheduled by FR (more than 7 hours!!) that the whole purpose of the trip is useless.

I have already cut my losses and accepted the fact that Ryanair will steal the original fare (and tax) off me but now they want an extra £5 as a final spit in my face! At least Easyjet are making you voluntarily(?) pay the difference by going to the website and re-entering card details (decent).....however... Ryanair just help themselves.
Anyhow I have now written to them expressing an interest to cancel this booking, and not to debit the payment. (stating that they are also under no authority to do so without my consent). I recommend anyone else in the same shoes to do the same.

[CARR30]

Anyhow I have now written to them expressing an interest to cancel this booking

You need to tell them that you HAVE cancelled your booking.
Many of us spend our lives expressing interest in things we NEVER get to do.

[masalaairlines]

Originally Posted by CARR30

Anyhow I have now written to them expressing an interest to cancel this booking
You need to tell them that you HAVE cancelled your booking.

wise words! ... but only they CAN cancel this booking. I can only ASK them to cancel the booking.