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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:17
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Please leave your mobile phone ON!

A British airline's going to be one of the first ever to allow people to use their mobiles while they're flying.

From next year they'll be allowed on BMI flights from Heathrow within Europe.

It'll cost more than a pound a minute on top of your usual mobile call rate.


Basically you would use your phone as normal - they will install a local network on board - like sitting next to a mast. You can use a blackberry and get email via your phone. Reason they're not allowed currently is because it interferes with communications when phones try to search for networks on ground if have one with you that won't happen. This is a trial and in planning stages - hope to bring in in 2006.



Here's a bit more info on it....

British company BMI Airlines and Portuguese carrier TAP are set to give inflight mobile phone and laptop e-mail services a trial run, the Swiss-based information technology firm OnAir said Tuesday.

OnAir, a joint venture of Geneva-based SITA Information Networking Computing and European giant Airbus, said the trials would be the first ever on commercial flights, after a series of in-house dummy runs.
The services are scheduled to be offered from late 2006.
OnAir said that by then it expected the technology, which is being developed with help from Siemens, to have a green light from regulators.
"These airlines are investing in the future and will have a definite edge on their competitors when it comes to bringing this technology to the market," said OnAir chief executive George Cooper, a former pilot.
"These are ideal partnerships for OnAir as our research findings indicate that in-flight use of mobile phones is the number one communications choice among airline passengers, particularly on short and medium haul flights."
BMI is set to test the service on an Airbus 320 flying from London's Heathrow airport to destinations within Britain and elsewhere in Europe, while the TAP trial is planned for an Airbus 321, also on European flights.
"We believe that business passengers flying within Europe will very much welcome this new capability," said TAP chief executive Fernando Pinto in a statement.
The new system, which relies on widely used GSM technology, aims to allow passengers to make calls, and send text messages and e-mails to people on the ground using their own mobiles and laptop wireless Internet access.
"We are sure that many travellers will welcome this expansion of their ability to keep in touch while in the air," said Cooper.
Airlines have provided onboard air-to-ground fixed telephones on some seats at a premium charge.
The move to virtually unhampered in-flight telephony would end the airliner's status as one of the last few havens from mobile telephones.
In a nod to the potential annoyance caused to passengers who want a quiet flight, OnAir said the trials will also guide the airlines on "usage patterns and some of the social issues in using mobile phones on aircraft."
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:40
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Damm is there no end in sight to these nuisance devices! If some jerk thinks he's going to sit next to having hios "HI I'm on the plane" or other totally useless conversation I afraid he/she will become the victim of an AIRAGE attack!
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:45
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And i wouldn't want to sit next to a phone radiating next to me or a mast as i would like to keep the brain tumour chances to a minimum and please don't talk about how really they don't do harm because that's what they said about smoking.
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:47
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I guess that's BMI and TAP off my airline list then!!!!!!!!!!!

Surprised MOL hasn't thought of this!
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:51
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Lighten up and embrace new technology folks; keeps us all in a job powering the economy!

It was bound to happen sooner or later - if your airline doesn't install it soon, it will be your airline the the business traffic shuns...

Could stick everyone who wants a mobile on in a section on their own?
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 16:58
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Could stick everyone who wants a mobile on in a section on their own?
Yeah, in the cargo hold

bad idea imho, esp. on short-haul - but the 1/minute + international call charges may put most people off + annoy the beancounters, hopefully.
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Could stick everyone who wants a mobile on in a section on their own?
What--you mean out on the wing? Great idea!
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HAHAHA cool but there's still that thing with there being radiation, hopefully there'll be an organic airline that is radiation reduced like instead of low-cost airlines low-radiation airlines
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:02
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A quick call to bmi showed that they knew nothing of this. So I shall e-mail the MD to appraise him of my views since they so kindly supplied me with his e-mail address.....

The last thing I would ever wish to have to endure on any flight would be a succession of mobile phone conversations.
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>Could stick everyone who wants a mobile on in a section on their own?

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Like they did with addicts of the pernicious weed . . .
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:08
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The trick is to sit and stare directly at the person who is making the call.

The first thing they do is drop the volume of the conversation, followed by a turning away of the head. This is often followed by a termination of the conversation.

I have only practiced this on London Buses and various European restaurants up until now and it really works a treat.

If the subject is particularly stubborn, leaning towards him or her whilst still staring often helps. In desperation the final ploy is to ask the person to speak up a bit, as you missed the last part of the conversation.

To date that has never failed !!!

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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:19
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To Mr Nigel Turner, bmi:

"Dear Mr Turner,

I read with utter astonishment that bmi are to run a 3 month trial permitting the use of OnAir's voice and text service for cell phones from the cabin of Airbus A320 aircraft during 2006.

I can think of very little else which would serve to worsen the existing misery of short haul air travel than exposure to unrestricted mobile phone users with their irritating ring tones, shouted conversations and general lack of consideration for others. In an airborne environment, I would be unsurprised if it led to increased instances of 'air rage'. The whole notion is utterly crass and I will certainly ensure that I do not travel on any bmi flights should any such idiocy be allowed to continue beyond the trial period.

The only acceptable use for mobile phones would be to restrict them to outgoing calls only - and from within a purpose-built soundproof booth installed in the cabin. But that would require you to give up seat space, so would probably impact upon your revenue stream.

You may feel that the tone of this e-mail is somewhat terse. I assure you that it barely hints at the anger I feel."
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Add my signature to the one BEagle.
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:25
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It won't have as much impact as e-mailing him yourself at [email protected]

It won't be much fun for the cabin crew trying to explain that you are not allowed to make cell phone calls from this A320 even though you did so from that A320 yesterday.....

The whole idea is madness!
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Free for crews I trust!.
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HAHAHA cool but there's still that thing with there being radiation, hopefully there'll be an organic airline that is radiation reduced like instead of low-cost airlines low-radiation airlines
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:38
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Email in the pipeline to Mr Turner.

Thanks BEagle
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 17:53
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philip2004uk, Why the constant pre-occupation with mobile phone radiation? The telephone frequencies are around those used by sixties primary radar and, consequently, around those used for jamming same. Jamming - as in very heavy, glycol cooled equipment at the back end of Vulcans. Believe me, if mobile phone 'radio waves' had any effect on you then there'd be no one left around from the V force. Certainly not ECM fairies.
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sorry i pressed something like back page and refresh and it posted twice
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Old 20th Sep 2005, 19:30
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Well, I've had a reply from Mr Turner. He states:

"The phones will be restricted to a strict protocol. I.e., no incoming, outgoing under strict circumstances.

It's all about blackberries and laptops really"


Which doesn't really sound much like:

Bmi to trial mobile use on flights

Two European airlines are to allow passengers to use their own mobile phones on commercial flights within western Europe.
British carrier bmi and TAP Air Portugal have both agreed to introduce OnAir's voice and text service for cell phones in separate three-month trial runs, OnAir's Chief Executive George Cooper said.

The planes, which will be the first to allow passengers to make and receive calls with their own mobile phones while onboard, will give OnAir the chance to assess its service before its general release, slated for 2007, he said.


as widely reported in the media.

Ar$e, elbow, Turner.....?
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