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The heavier aircraft, such as triple sevens and 330s generally feel to accelerate a little less sparkingly than the narrow bodies.
This is partly because of the greater mass, but also partly an illusion due to you sitting further away from the ground - ie higher.
As a rough guess, your MD83 will take off at about 165-180mph.
It may feel to climb quite steeply, if you are sitting further back, as the cabin is long and narrow - I guess that is an optical illusion.
But don't worry, I've flown 000s of miles in them as a pax, the most recent flight being in November last year - they are an aeroplane with a great record and I'd happily go on one tomorrow.
By the way, sometimes airlines can be a bit funny about using minidisks, 'cos they have lasers in them - if your music is so important, I'd be inclined to record a few music cassettes and take an old cassette player, just to be safe.
Have a great trip and holiday.
The heavier aircraft, such as triple sevens and 330s generally feel to accelerate a little less sparkingly than the narrow bodies.
This is partly because of the greater mass, but also partly an illusion due to you sitting further away from the ground - ie higher.
As a rough guess, your MD83 will take off at about 165-180mph.
It may feel to climb quite steeply, if you are sitting further back, as the cabin is long and narrow - I guess that is an optical illusion.
But don't worry, I've flown 000s of miles in them as a pax, the most recent flight being in November last year - they are an aeroplane with a great record and I'd happily go on one tomorrow.
By the way, sometimes airlines can be a bit funny about using minidisks, 'cos they have lasers in them - if your music is so important, I'd be inclined to record a few music cassettes and take an old cassette player, just to be safe.
Have a great trip and holiday.
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I was using the term "climb" loosely as Tommy is obviously not a pilot (yet), but what I really mean is pitch angle, which in reality will be different to the climb gradient.
As you say, licensing considerations mean that a twin will tend to outperform a tri or four jet, until one stops
Still it feels very steep at the back of that long tube though
, with no C class dividers to block the view - the damn things a re slightly longer than a 321 if I recall (not a spotter, honestly!)
I was using the term "climb" loosely as Tommy is obviously not a pilot (yet), but what I really mean is pitch angle, which in reality will be different to the climb gradient.
As you say, licensing considerations mean that a twin will tend to outperform a tri or four jet, until one stops
Still it feels very steep at the back of that long tube though
, with no C class dividers to block the view - the damn things a re slightly longer than a 321 if I recall (not a spotter, honestly!)
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MD80 series - length 45.1m
A321 - length 44.51m
I didnt know that until F3G mentioned it
The MD80 series in my own technical/operational experience as an operator is one of the best built aircraft around, build quality and longevity of systems/structure are miles (or km's) ahead of new Airbus or Boeing products as is its' performance (or at least equal, certainly much better per $ capital investment)
It is good old technology that works and will have at least another 15-20 years viable future with the new Stage 4 hushkits that actually reduce consumption and increase engine life (by reducing the operating temperatures and increase thrust, something to do with higher flow co-efficient i.e how easily the air comes thru the engine
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A321 - length 44.51m
I didnt know that until F3G mentioned it
The MD80 series in my own technical/operational experience as an operator is one of the best built aircraft around, build quality and longevity of systems/structure are miles (or km's) ahead of new Airbus or Boeing products as is its' performance (or at least equal, certainly much better per $ capital investment)
It is good old technology that works and will have at least another 15-20 years viable future with the new Stage 4 hushkits that actually reduce consumption and increase engine life (by reducing the operating temperatures and increase thrust, something to do with higher flow co-efficient i.e how easily the air comes thru the engine
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Are you able to use cassette players on board aircraft.
I dont mind using one of them, i dont care about having tv all i need is some music to relax to.
Do MD80s also have a rear exit and is it true the aircraft has its own staircase without the aiport having to use a truck thingy.
I dont mind using one of them, i dont care about having tv all i need is some music to relax to.
Do MD80s also have a rear exit and is it true the aircraft has its own staircase without the aiport having to use a truck thingy.
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Yes...
Yes...it has a rear airstair and usually a forward (side front entrance) airstair like many other aircraft of its size which folds in under the forward door...
In an emergency the whole tailcone can be jettisoned to aid evacuation thru the rear exit - look for the 45' body line just aft of the engines - now not a lot of people know that Michael!
PS. just dont pull the emergency handle which is in the cabin above the rear doorframe as I recall as you wont be very popular...pull, clang, 'sh1t' etc.
PPS. F3G dont lie to yourself, come to terms with your 'spotting' cravings you know you want to, you know it makes sense
Yes...it has a rear airstair and usually a forward (side front entrance) airstair like many other aircraft of its size which folds in under the forward door...
In an emergency the whole tailcone can be jettisoned to aid evacuation thru the rear exit - look for the 45' body line just aft of the engines - now not a lot of people know that Michael!
PS. just dont pull the emergency handle which is in the cabin above the rear doorframe as I recall as you wont be very popular...pull, clang, 'sh1t' etc.
PPS. F3G dont lie to yourself, come to terms with your 'spotting' cravings you know you want to, you know it makes sense
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I thought the MD83 was quiet.
Is take off quite powerful, does it push you back in your seat.
I know take off on an Airbus A320,A321 and Boeing 757 take offs push your back however take offs on a Boeing 777 and Airbus A330 seem to be more gentle.
Also can i use a cassett on board the plane.
Is take off quite powerful, does it push you back in your seat.
I know take off on an Airbus A320,A321 and Boeing 757 take offs push your back however take offs on a Boeing 777 and Airbus A330 seem to be more gentle.
Also can i use a cassett on board the plane.
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A "cassette"??? Yes, I believe so. And also a windup gramophone if you wish... 
You may find older people around you using strange devices known as CD, and most people under 40 or so using something called an MP3 player. But perhaps these things haven't made it as far as York yet?
You may find older people around you using strange devices known as CD, and most people under 40 or so using something called an MP3 player. But perhaps these things haven't made it as far as York yet?
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Tommyinyork: You can not use Minidisks and CD players on board aircraft.
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Well i remember my dad once using a video camara on an Air Malta 737-200 from LBA 11 years ago on take off and again on a BY 767-300 on route from Gerona to Manchester 8 years ago.
So i could use my camara this time maybe.
So i could use my camara this time maybe.
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Tommy, did this thred not start because you were travelling JKK and were expecting a MYT flt and if the JKK MD's had inflight entertainment?
I think your milking this a bit now..
I think your milking this a bit now..
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Here's some info from the Spanair website
"The use of electronic appliances in not permitted on board for security reasons. Please remember the use of any of these appliances can interfere with the aircraft¡¦s communications and navigation systems. Electronic appliances should always remain switched off.
¡P Mobile telephones should always be switched off while you are on board.
¡P Radio equipment.
¡P Compact disc players.
¡P Remote controlled games.
¡P Personal computers.
¡P Television sets or portable video recorders.
¡P Cordless microphones.
¡P Pocket ventilators.
¡P Shaving machines.
In case of doubt, please consult the cabin crew."
I think that you will find that they class mini disk as a CD player, because it uses a laser reader. The statement is ambiguous concerning cassettes, it doesn't specify them, but it also says "Electronic appliances should always remain switched off" - so maybe you need to email them to clairfy and also pack a good book
Here's some info from the Spanair website
"The use of electronic appliances in not permitted on board for security reasons. Please remember the use of any of these appliances can interfere with the aircraft¡¦s communications and navigation systems. Electronic appliances should always remain switched off.
¡P Mobile telephones should always be switched off while you are on board.
¡P Radio equipment.
¡P Compact disc players.
¡P Remote controlled games.
¡P Personal computers.
¡P Television sets or portable video recorders.
¡P Cordless microphones.
¡P Pocket ventilators.
¡P Shaving machines.
In case of doubt, please consult the cabin crew."
I think that you will find that they class mini disk as a CD player, because it uses a laser reader. The statement is ambiguous concerning cassettes, it doesn't specify them, but it also says "Electronic appliances should always remain switched off" - so maybe you need to email them to clairfy and also pack a good book
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God this airline really does suck. What do they expect me to do for 4 and a half hours. Sit down and do nothing. At least listening to a cassette is allowed anyway.
I hope they use an A320 or A321, nothing agaisnt the MD83 but entertainment is essential on flights above 2 hours.
I hope they use an A320 or A321, nothing agaisnt the MD83 but entertainment is essential on flights above 2 hours.
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Ermmm, I appreciate that this forum is aviation based and all but Tommy I need to raise one concern.... Your going on holidays dude... Inflight entertainment is handy and all but any charter flight I have ever gone on I have to say I havent really been bothered about it.... It's the Trans Atlantic / Pacific sectors that its handy for... Just go and enjoy your holiday dude... Drink in excess and have a good time.. And for the flight over and back? A good book.. Or even the JK AHM if you can get your hands on it