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Tommyinyork 3rd Jun 2004 17:53

Jkk
 
Hi im off to Tenerife on 25th June on a Friday night flight. The flight number is JKK however in the brochure it says it is MYT and i also depart at 22:00 hours and return at 7am the following week on the Saturday morning. Who am i flying with and is there an error.

BOAC 3rd Jun 2004 18:04

This site shows it to be 'Spanair'. Presumably a MYT sub-charter.

Tommyinyork 3rd Jun 2004 18:07

Any idea on the aircaft type, im hearing its an MD83 however a few are saying A320.

Im flying from Teesside.

GARDENER 3rd Jun 2004 18:18

Tommy,
The airline is Spanair pretty sure it will be the MD83 unless it goes tech....then you will have to walk!! It is a MYT sub which is normal out of MME this season as there is no MYT based A/C...well there never has been except SSV. Have a good flight!

Tommyinyork 3rd Jun 2004 18:22

What are the Spanair MD83s like. Only been on an Airtours one.

BobAgg 3rd Jun 2004 21:00

The MD83's are fine, just a big slim tube, reminds me a bit of myself! Can't remember any form of entertainment at all, apart from the lovely Spanish ladies serving the drinks!

Don't be alarmed if smoke starts piling in from the Air Conditioning Vents all along the top of the cabin, it's happened on every JKK MD83 I've been on! It's when it starts piling in from the front of cabin I'd start a blind panic!

Enjoy your flight!!

Bob!

WHBM 3rd Jun 2004 21:34


What are the Spanair MD83s like. Only been on an Airtours one.
Just like the Airtours one except that the FAs will say "Buenos Dias" instead of "Eee oop love" !

Tommyinyork 4th Jun 2004 06:14

Just wondering whats the MD83s capacaity and speed.
I remember it having 5 abreast on the Airtours one, but im not sure if that was a one off.

BOAC 4th Jun 2004 07:44


TE RANGI 4th Jun 2004 19:26

Hey Tommy,
Please check your PMs.

Tommyinyork 5th Jun 2004 05:50

Is there inflight entertainment on board. It is the 21st century so if there isnt it wont be to good, unless i can listen to my mini disk.
Also are the crew English or Spanish, because im thinking if they are using MyTravel staff for the flights.

DUBXH 9th Jun 2004 23:30

MD83 and Inflight entertainment?? NOOOOOOO !!!

Spanair are looking at getting rid of those things not investing in them... The only entertainment you will get is some Blonde sweidish number walking up the aisle...

Sure the furthest you are going with them is the Canarys so just sleep for the four hours.. :o)

Tommyinyork 10th Jun 2004 10:59

There not that old though, the were only built in 1989 so they have about another 10 years in the skies.

DUBXH 10th Jun 2004 12:12

Tommyinyork... Thats true and they were a fantastic aircraft when built but looking at them now they are a bit dodgy... Not to mention that the likes of SK and AZ are phasing them out too which in turn is going to make it a little bit difficult to source out station maintenence...
They are ideal for the likes of MAD-ACE/LPA/FUE/TFS/N but for the golf / student charters they are putting them on is just mere suicide really... They are a nose heavy Aircraft and on top of that space isnt one of their virtues... However.. Enjoy your trip and with any luck the weather will be better than home :o)

BobAgg...

About a year ago there was a JK MD out on a remote stand in DUB and the skipper having a smoke standing at the door to the Aircraft then proceeded to flcik it away onto the apron unaware that he was being watched by the local Police... Nice little fine he picked up there :o)

asterix4816 10th Jun 2004 12:17

Bloody MD83s are the bain of my life.

I should explain. I work on checkin at PIK and trying to explain to a hard ass glasgow family that i cant seat them 4 in a row cos that would leave a single is not fun!!

I mean who ever thought it would be a good idea to put 5 seats in a row!!

Phew that felt good.

Tommyinyork 10th Jun 2004 13:16

Cant they use a Boeing 717 on charter flight?
Thats a more up to date version of an MD83 and ive heard there not bad planes at all.

surely not 10th Jun 2004 14:44

Tommy the 717 is a much smaller aircraft and doesn't have the economics of the MD83.

Just start getting used to the facts that it is an MD83; no in-flight entertainment; Spanish crew; it's a MYT Tour operator flight operated by Spanair; the aircraft is quite capable of getting you safely there and back.

Have ag good holiday

:D

Tommyinyork 11th Jun 2004 08:28

I will be happy if i can listen to my minidisk on the aircraft, im not to bothered about TV because all airlines show these days on flights is The Vicor of Dibley. Its music that i need.
Does anyone know what take off feels like on a MD83 because when i have been on a A320, A321 and 757 take offs have been quite poweful however when been on an A330 and 777 take off hasnt been so powerful.
What is the MD83s take off speed.

TightSlot 11th Jun 2004 12:04

Hi Tommy

The speed an aircraft uses for take-off is different on every flight. It is based on a series of calculations involving (among other things) the aircraft weight, configuration and performance as well as aspects of the weather such as the pressure and temperature at the time. A pilot would be able to give you a much more detailed explanation than this. The power used for take off would also vary depending on all of the above as well as the runway length and the requirements to clear any obstructions with an engine out - again, pilots will explain this in much greater detail and with more accuracy: You may find it helpful to post in the Questions forum for a fuller explanation.

Most aircraft will use the lowest safe power setting for take-off given the prevailing conditions on the day - often known as a reduced thrust or derated power setting. This reduces engine wear and therefore extends engine life. It is uncommon for an aircraft to use full power on take-off.

The MD83 may not be the newest aircraft in the world, but it is a fairly successful, well established type (not dodgy!) - and any "nose-heaviness" will be safely trimmed out for flight. I'm sure that it will be a straight forward, slightly dull flight - enjoy your hols!
:D

Boss Raptor 11th Jun 2004 12:19

Spanair operation = good, very professional use them all the time on Spanish domestic services

MD83 = good

Quieter in flight than a B737-300/A320 or similar with the rear mounted engines except if you are in the last 4 rows

However Spanair also have the A320 and A321 so might turn out to be one of those

Spanair are also in Star Alliance

B717's are used by Ae Bal out of PMI, not Spanair mainline but a subsiduary and not used on Spanair charter services


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