Ryanair Cabin Baggage
As well as the danger of overweight cabin baggage falling from the overhead bins, there is a maximum that the structure holding the bins has been stressed to. Heaven knows what damage one of these would do if it fell down during turbulence or a 'heavy' landing.
No doubt in the law suit the passenger would claim 'but you allowed me to carry it on board therefore you are liable'!
Hand baggage is the most difficult aspect to police as check-in agents hardly ever see the hand baggage of the dedicated cheats. Yes, hand baggage counts towards your total baggage allowance, and it always has, even before the LoCos, but the main reason is passenger safety in times of extreme turbulence or in the worst case, an accident.
I have read that on the BA 737 which had an uncontained engine fire many years ago at MAn, one of the main reasons more pax didn't get out alive was because the under the seat hand baggage became strewn arond the cabin and pax fell over it only to be trampled by others panicking to get out.
So some of you think the airlines are being petty? No, we are trying to protect you from yourselves.
No doubt in the law suit the passenger would claim 'but you allowed me to carry it on board therefore you are liable'!
Hand baggage is the most difficult aspect to police as check-in agents hardly ever see the hand baggage of the dedicated cheats. Yes, hand baggage counts towards your total baggage allowance, and it always has, even before the LoCos, but the main reason is passenger safety in times of extreme turbulence or in the worst case, an accident.
I have read that on the BA 737 which had an uncontained engine fire many years ago at MAn, one of the main reasons more pax didn't get out alive was because the under the seat hand baggage became strewn arond the cabin and pax fell over it only to be trampled by others panicking to get out.
So some of you think the airlines are being petty? No, we are trying to protect you from yourselves.
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Can 'securely stowed under the seat in front' handbaggage 'escape' in this way? I suppose it might be possible on an aisle seat where there's (often?) no side restraint, but otherwise it has always seemed to me to be less likely to cause a problem (in these highly unfortunate circumstances) than stuff in the overheads.
I only ask because I'd like to know ...
I only ask because I'd like to know ...
"Cabin Baggage:
Ryanair allows each passenger (excluding infants) to carry one small piece of hand baggage on board. The hand baggage must not weigh more than 7kg and be less than 50cm x 35cm x 23cm (20x14x9ins) in dimensions. For the safety and convenience of all passengers, hand baggage must fit underneath the seat or in the overhead compartment."
That seems entirely clear, reasonable and straightforward to me. So those people who inist upon trying to bring wheeled cabin trunks, mountaineer's rucksacks and the like into aeroplane cabins shouldn't be surprised when they're told they can't.
LH allows a very generous business class allowance. And a damn nuisance it is too, as every businessman seems intent upon bringing his entire wardrobe into the cabin in addition to an enormous attache case - as a result it takes ages to board.
Pre-Sep 11th, I used to carry a 'standard airline carry-on bag' with me; however, I discovered that buzz had an absurdly low cabin bag limit. So everything now goes into the hold, except for a briefcase which also hold my 1.8 kg laptop. Which is fine - until LH loses your suitcase at 2230 on the hottest night of the year....
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Ryanair allows each passenger (excluding infants) to carry one small piece of hand baggage on board. The hand baggage must not weigh more than 7kg and be less than 50cm x 35cm x 23cm (20x14x9ins) in dimensions. For the safety and convenience of all passengers, hand baggage must fit underneath the seat or in the overhead compartment."
That seems entirely clear, reasonable and straightforward to me. So those people who inist upon trying to bring wheeled cabin trunks, mountaineer's rucksacks and the like into aeroplane cabins shouldn't be surprised when they're told they can't.
LH allows a very generous business class allowance. And a damn nuisance it is too, as every businessman seems intent upon bringing his entire wardrobe into the cabin in addition to an enormous attache case - as a result it takes ages to board.
Pre-Sep 11th, I used to carry a 'standard airline carry-on bag' with me; however, I discovered that buzz had an absurdly low cabin bag limit. So everything now goes into the hold, except for a briefcase which also hold my 1.8 kg laptop. Which is fine - until LH loses your suitcase at 2230 on the hottest night of the year....
People moan about Mo'L and Ryanair for many reasons; however, their Ts and Cs are clear and unequivocal. For that they deserve praise, not derision.
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Said it before, and I'll say it again, EZY allow one briefcase and one laptop computer as hand baggage. As far as I understand this, the total combined weight may be over the limit, but only due to the extra weight of the laptop. That means, provided your briefcase is under the limit, you can take on board a laptop as well. It is in the small print, honest. I think they choose to not advertise this, as it may encourage idiots. Clearly a degree of common sense is required.
This was definitely the case around six months ago, but check yourself - if you ask the staff, you may be told no. On one occasion, I actually had to point to the small print on my paper receipt. Maybe it is on their website.
In many ways it makes sense, as the days are over where the average 'laptop' is a huge beast weighing 5kg. In addition, many travellers like this are travelling without any hold luggage at all.
A bit of sanity from easyjet?
On another point, I noticed the comment above regarding the fire at Manchester, and the fact that many people died due to a failure to evacuate. If I recall correctly, the main reason this failure to evacuate was attributed to was due to extra rows of seats which were placed at the wing exits. This led to the removal of said extra rows at overwing exits for many years, but have now returned in Easyjet and Ryanair and some other airlines. No doubt they will not be removed again until we have a similar catstrophe with a packed plane on the runway. The amount of space that is being left at wing exit rows is nothing short of criminal, especially on thos aircraft where the procedure is to remove the window inwards. I would happily pay an extra 10 quid to get the exit rows cleared again. No doubt we'll have to wait for a few deaths.
This was definitely the case around six months ago, but check yourself - if you ask the staff, you may be told no. On one occasion, I actually had to point to the small print on my paper receipt. Maybe it is on their website.
In many ways it makes sense, as the days are over where the average 'laptop' is a huge beast weighing 5kg. In addition, many travellers like this are travelling without any hold luggage at all.
A bit of sanity from easyjet?
On another point, I noticed the comment above regarding the fire at Manchester, and the fact that many people died due to a failure to evacuate. If I recall correctly, the main reason this failure to evacuate was attributed to was due to extra rows of seats which were placed at the wing exits. This led to the removal of said extra rows at overwing exits for many years, but have now returned in Easyjet and Ryanair and some other airlines. No doubt they will not be removed again until we have a similar catstrophe with a packed plane on the runway. The amount of space that is being left at wing exit rows is nothing short of criminal, especially on thos aircraft where the procedure is to remove the window inwards. I would happily pay an extra 10 quid to get the exit rows cleared again. No doubt we'll have to wait for a few deaths.
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................EZY allow one briefcase and one laptop computer as hand baggage
Unfortunately, as soon as the airlines "give" a little bit, some pratt has to spoil things for everyone!
Anyhow, after the events of this week with the Washington aircraft, we may be back to almost zero cabin baggage before long!
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