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Originally Posted by J230 (Post 10460200)

I am currently getting my ASIC and of course it is taking longer than they say it will. I called the company I am doing my application through the other day and they actually sounded surprised when they found out how long it had been pending. :ugh:

Welcome to frustration alley! This is my 6th renewal using the CASA card thus far have waited just on 6 weeks, was told could be 10 weeks.....status 'pending', sh!t so is my death!
Every time I get stripped searched at a security check point for a nail file etc I just shake my head when I enter the cockpit to do a cockpit safety equip check.....CRASH AXE....check!

From the CASA web site:
Replacement of an ASIC - $108.00

From the link above:
As at 30 June 2010 there were 265 328 valid issued cards (126 806 ASICs and 138 522 MSICs)

Also from the link above:
There are 25 entities that have the machines to make the cards

265,328 / 25 * $100 = $1,061,312

Not a bad earner to own a printer.

Hence why the ink only lasts one year. ;)

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Originally Posted by YPJT (Post 10460239)

All these ID requirements were about 5 years in the making. During the industry consultation airlines, airports, issuing bodies and unions were all involved. The arguments made above were raised throughout the course but the Department was acting on recommendations from the Australian National Audit Office that found flaws in the existing processes. So I guess on here we can get it off our chests but like it or not, it is not going to revert in any way.

A summary of the audit here shows in some way why things were tightened up.

I had a good chuckle at some of the items in that audit,
firstly at some basic incompetence

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It is difficult to obtain a reliable count of the total number of current ASIC and MSIC cards, or the currency of all cards on the AusCheck database. This is despite the database being established to provide a comprehensive record of all ASIC and MSIC applicants and cardholders.

and then at the rigorous and meaningful and comprehensive background checks

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Based on an extract of the AusCheck database in June 2010, AusCheck processed 97 per cent of its background checking activity within one day and 99 per cent was completed in five business days or less.

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So for years you might have been using your document and it is perfectly legit, however now because of some glitch or data error in a state's BDM registry there is no match and your ASIC application comes to a complete halt.
There are problems with quite a few of them.

And I thought it was discrimination against us Sandgropers - don't tell Griffo!