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outnabout 30th Apr 2017 01:21

Outback Pilots on Ch 7
 
I see the first promos this morning on Ch 7 Mate for Outback Pilots. Part of the promo features a PC12 up North, and separately, the crew at William Creek.

Regrettably, the footage that TV producers decides makes for good viewing is usually not what the Regulators wish to see.

I wish anyone involved with these sort of programs all the best of luck. I thought the ongoing nightmare that dogged Keeping Up With The Jones would have served as sufficient warning...

OZBUSDRIVER 30th Apr 2017 01:42

Is it the usual Discovery channel formula? Death and disaster awaits:ugh:

megan 30th Apr 2017 02:25

I'm sure Trevor would have held tight reins.

swh 30th Apr 2017 02:42

Qantas has this onboard on the IFE.

PLovett 30th Apr 2017 07:30

I heard about it some time ago and was wondering when it would hit the screen. Any date for the screening?

Berealgetreal 30th Apr 2017 11:14

The one out of PNG on Suzi Air s a good one to watch.

outnabout 1st May 2017 22:49

I did hear a rumour that apparently Trev rang the Powers That Be and said "it is a telly show, things may be exaggerated or edited for effect".

Apparently got the response - if we see something that breaches the regs, we will ping ya.

So that's helpful.

Checklist Charlie 2nd May 2017 02:55


we will ping ya
Surely you didn't expect any other response from those that create a solution and then go looking for a problem.

CC:rolleyes:

josephfeatherweight 2nd May 2017 03:49


Apparently got the response - if we see something that breaches the regs, we will ping ya.
I'm all for the usual Community-Against-Sensible-Aviation-bashing, but what were they meant to say - "If we see something that breaches the regs, we'll turn a blind-eye???"
I don't know why ANYONE would get involved in this sort of TV production - strikes me as a recipe for disaster. When the cameras are rolling, the producers have hyped the atmosphere and it's human nature for a keen, young pilot to "push it".
I wouldn't touch it with my 10-foot pole...

megan 2nd May 2017 04:34


I wouldn't touch it with my 10-foot pole..
One didn't.

Dick Smith 2nd May 2017 06:00

But remember the series in Alaska with the really cute owners daughter who was also a pilot.

Trevor would find it hard to compete with that!

It should promote Aus outback aviation so great!

Desert Flower 2nd May 2017 11:01


Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight (Post 9758365)
I don't know why ANYONE would get involved in this sort of TV production - strikes me as a recipe for disaster

The trouble is some people have big egos, so they do it anyway. The old saying "Fools step in where angels fear to tread" comes to mind :ugh:

DF.

Pinky the pilot 2nd May 2017 11:32


The one out of PNG on Suzi Air s a good one to watch.
Bulls**t!:mad::ugh:

For a start it wasn't in PNG but Irian Jaya. And it was overhyped and overdramatised as well!:ugh:

There was a thread on that particular show but I do not have the ability to insert the appropriate link to it here.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 3rd May 2017 01:31

Doing those 'short fielders' on those 'up and down' strips was all part of the day's work, wasn't it Mr Pinky....

ONYA, and I do agree that it is all 'hyped up' for the 'couch potatoes'.....

Cheeerrsss..... :ok::ok:

Pinky the pilot 3rd May 2017 05:50


Doing those 'short fielders' on those 'up and down' strips was all part of the day's work, wasn't it Mr Pinky....
Em nau!:ok:

Duck Pilot 3rd May 2017 08:22

Maybe I should sell my PNG DVD production, most of the flying footage was taken by a good mate who was my FO at the time. All flown in a Twin Otter with full audio recorded through the intercom, operating out of POM and TBL. We even interviewed our ground crew, very entertaining although there are a couple of aircraft in it that are no longer flying due to CFIT accidents.

I thought it would have been good to capture the flying at the time (2001) to make a doco, I've even still got the raw footage stored electronically.

Pinky the pilot 3rd May 2017 10:01

Duck Pilot; Why don't you investigate the possibilities of turning all that into a proper documentary?

I should think that there would be some TV production Company somewhere who may be interested.

There have been times when I really wish that I had a Video Camera in my taim bilong PNG. They did exist, but they were the bulky things that held the whole VHS cassette.

One of the Brothers at the Catholic Mission in Kerema had some excellent footage of taking off in an Islander, the subsequent feathering of the right hand prop and an assymetric return to Kerema.:eek:

The audio quality of the footage was so good that you could even hear, above the sound of the remaining engine operating at 25"/2500rpm, the 'slap' of the pre-landing Checklist tiles being turned down, and the expletives:eek: I let go as I completed the checklist!:mad::ugh::=

emeritus 3rd May 2017 13:01

Outnabout....

When they say.."If we see something that breaches the regs, we will ping ya' , what they are really saying is ..."if we see something that breaches the regs..AND WE CAN BE CONFIDANT OF A SUCCESFUL PROSECUTION.. we will ping ya ".

Bullies..always been and always will be.

Emeritus

Iron Bar 5th May 2017 10:37

Have just seen two episodes on QF IFE. An embarrassment to all those who allowed themselves to be associated with it. Especially one operator who I thought would know better. Confected, staged, sensationalised and manipulated, with the pilots edited to appear careless, flustered and more worried about being late than anything else.

I hope CASA ask some questions but my guess is that those involved will be able to show any apparent "questionable" activities didn't actually occur and were staged. (not sure about the legals of crop spraying)

It will probably rate, producers and media execs know the formula. But it will rate at the expense of the reputation of professional GA pilots. For entertainment and a look at bush flying, Suzi air head and shoulders above it. (Not-withstanding Pinky's comments)

outnabout 5th May 2017 23:56

Grab your remote, and get the popcorn ready.

First episode is scheduled for 8.30pm, Tues, May 16, on 7Mate.

Really hope that it doesn't get subject to the dramatic voiceovers and manufactured drama that most reality shows do (but fear I am going to be disappointed)

Flying Binghi 6th May 2017 00:59


Really hope that it doesn't get subject to the dramatic voiceovers and manufactured drama that.....

That's television...






.

kingRB 6th May 2017 01:39


Really hope that it doesn't get subject to the dramatic voiceovers and manufactured drama that most reality shows do (but fear I am going to be disappointed)



Spoiler Alert: It does

Pinky the pilot 6th May 2017 06:59

How convenient. I shall be out of the Country and unable to watch it.:ok:

Won't have to buy a new TV then...:ooh:

Engineer_aus 16th May 2017 05:45

I thought old mate Reppa has his planes taken off him and CASA grounded him?

ACMS 16th May 2017 12:53

So, just finished. What do you think?

I didn't think it was too bad, quite enjoyed it actually. Usual exaggerated weather issues flying into BDV, making it look worse than it was:}. I thought that Trevor's brother was keen to hand swing a 3 blade prop.:eek:

The croppy works bloody hard and the Heli Pilots are nuts.....

Sped up video a couple of times of the Helos but at least the Turbine Air Tractor actually sounded like a Turbine!!

Desert Flower 16th May 2017 13:37


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 9772801)
So, just finished. What do you think?

I didn't think it was too bad, quite enjoyed it actually. Usual exaggerated weather issues flying into BDV, making it look worse than it was:}. I thought that Trevor's brother was keen to hand swing a 3 blade prop.:eek:

Believe me I've seen pilots hand swinging bigger 3 bladed props than the ones one a C210!

DF.

gerry111 16th May 2017 14:36


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 9772857)
Believe me I've seen pilots hand swinging bigger 3 bladed props than the ones one a C210!

DF.

Somewhere I've read that bigger isn't necessarily better? :(

megan 17th May 2017 00:44


Believe me I've seen pilots hand swinging bigger 3 bladed props than the ones one a C210
Like a DC-3 or -4, and other big pistons, the procedure is in the manuals, piece of rope is involved.

no_one 17th May 2017 00:55

At least they didn't do this.....



Desert Flower 17th May 2017 11:43


Originally Posted by megan (Post 9773455)
Like a DC-3 or -4, and other big pistons, the procedure is in the manuals, piece of rope is involved.

Biggest I've seen was on an Aerocommander 500 (Shrike) & there was no rope involved.

DF.

BEACH KING 17th May 2017 12:11

The show was pretty good IMO.
The voice over.. repeating what just happened 30 seconds ago, annoys the F out of me.
It was a much more watchable reality TV show than the brain dead cooking, singing, renovation, real-estate and relationship **** than adorns every free to air channel at present. :ugh:

Desert Flower 17th May 2017 12:45


Originally Posted by BEACH KING (Post 9773865)
The voice over.. repeating what just happened 30 seconds ago, annoys the F out of me.

It's exactly the same on Outback Truckers. And they are both over dramatised to hell. My hubby (an ex truckie) often comments on the obvious mistakes in the trucking one, while I go off about the ones in any program to do with aircraft.

DF.

outnabout 23rd May 2017 22:03

I did hear a rumour that Repa is not the only one who is grounded these days....

patagonianworelaud 23rd May 2017 22:52

The commentary is crap and they subtitles erroneous:-

"Business Centre this is Rescue 510", and getting "airbourne". If that is their production standard it makes you wonder about anything else that is said.

The crop duster bloke is a task master, it seems. Putting the second pilot straight to work after he's just flown 2000km to get there, and in a day, too. What would that be, around 8 - 10 hours ferry time??

The whole program is beset with errors ..............

YPJT 23rd May 2017 23:20

Patagonianworelaud

The commentary is crap and they subtitles erroneous:-

"Business Centre this is Rescue 510", and getting "airbourne". If that is their production standard it makes you wonder about anything else that is said.
Nothing that couldn't be fixed by getting a pilot to run an eye / ear over the subtitles. Clearly the starring crew wouldn't have time to go to studios to do that stuff. Might be easier if they just sorted the intercom audio recording issues in the helo.

Maybe a lot of errors but tell me one reality TV show that is 100% factual. Its for entertainment, not an educational documentary.

zanzibar 24th May 2017 11:57

I'm with Pata.

Sloppy editing which casts a shadow over the whole production. The masses wouldn't know the shortfalls but even a semi decent pilot would. Mind you the masses probably think Reality Shows are just that and not fabricated, staged and over-dramatised rubbish.

Jabawocky 25th May 2017 00:01

So who have CASA got their claws into over it?

:uhoh:

601 25th May 2017 00:13


fabricated, staged and over-dramatised rubbish
..................:ok:

ACMS 25th May 2017 11:53

Yeah maybe but it's fun to watch an Aviation program from your own country isn't it.

airag 26th May 2017 05:36

Bushpilots
 
Watched 5 minutes , nearly vomited , had to change channels . About as expected !


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