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Fris B. Fairing 26th May 2017 06:15

I like this type of program because I have a very short attention span and I need to be reminded of what I saw several minutes previously.

outnabout 6th Jun 2017 23:35

Watched this again last night.

Blimey!!

601 6th Jun 2017 23:42


Yeah maybe but it's fun to watch an Aviation program from your own country isn't it.
Doesn't matter that it was made here or anywhere else, it is still :mad:

After spending 50 odd years in GA, there is very relationship between what is real life and this :mad:

geeup 7th Jun 2017 01:45

Think I've missed my calling..

Band a Lot 7th Jun 2017 03:41

Personally I would have checked the fuse before the cannon plug on the actuator!


Part 1 -- Maintenance on Class B aircraft other than balloons

1. Removal or installation of landing gear tyres, but only if the removal or installation does not involve the complete jacking of the aircraft.
2. Repair of pneumatic tubes of landing gear tyres.
3. Servicing of landing gear wheel bearings.
4. Replacement of defective safety wiring or split pins, but not including wiring or pins in control systems.
5. Removal or refitting of a door, but only if:
(a) no disassembly of the primary structure or operating system of the aircraft is involved; and
(b) if the aircraft is to be operated with the door removed--the aircraft has a flight manual and the manual indicates that the aircraft may be operated with the door removed.
6. Replacement of side windows in an unpressurised aircraft.
7. Replacement of seats, but only if the replacement does not involve disassembly of any part of the primary structure of the aircraft.
8. Repairs to the upholstery or decorative furnishings of the interior of the cabin or cockpit.
9. Replacement of seat belts or harnesses.
10. Replacement or repair of signs and markings.
11. Replacement of bulbs, reflectors, glasses, lenses or lights.
12. Replacement, cleaning, or setting gaps of, spark plugs.
13. Replacement of batteries.
14. Changing oil filters or air filters.
15. Changing or replenishing engine oil or fuel.
16. Lubrication not requiring disassembly or requiring only the removal of non-structural parts, or of cover plates, cowlings and fairings.
17. Replenishment of hydraulic fluid.
18. Application of preservative or protective materials, but only if no disassembly of the primary structure or operating system of the aircraft is involved.
19. Removal or replacement of equipment used for agricultural purposes.
20. Removal or replacement of glider tow hooks.
21. Carrying out of an inspection under regulation 42G of a flight control system that has been assembled, adjusted, repaired, modified or replaced.
22. Carrying out of a daily inspection of an aircraft.
23. Connection and disconnection of optional dual control in an aircraft without the use of any tools for the purpose of transitioning the aircraft from single to dual, or dual to single, pilot operation.
24. Inspections or checks set out in the following documents in circumstances where the document clearly states that the maintenance may be carried out by the pilot of the aircraft and the maintenance does not require the use of any tools or equipment:
(a) the aircraft's approved maintenance data;
(b) the aircraft's flight manual or an equivalent document;
(c) any instructions issued by the NAA that approved the type certificate for the aircraft.
25. For an aircraft that is installed with an oxygen system for the exclusive use of ill or injured persons on an aircraft used to perform ambulance functions--replenishing the oxygen system installed on the aircraft.

ACMS 7th Jun 2017 07:13

Yes true but I'd rather watch something on Aviation no matter how silly than the other crap on cooking dating etc.....

ACMS 7th Jun 2017 10:09

Ok I change my mind.......I nearly threw the remote at the TV..

Scott the plumber flying the 182.......come on mate what a load of BS....you make a good actor!! Did they script you in that crap?

Band a Lot 7th Jun 2017 12:40


Originally Posted by ACMS (Post 9795296)
Ok I change my mind.......I nearly threw the remote at the TV..

Scott the plumber flying the 182.......come on mate what a load of BS....you make a good actor!! Did they script you in that crap?



I would ask "where is the blow torch" or do you hire them on site?


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111fairchild 7th Jun 2017 12:48

Long time reader, first time posting etc.

I can't help but notice the common theme in many previous posts is an overall negative impression of the show. I however enjoy a bit of the spotlight on the Aussie GA scene. Especially when we've got guys and girls trying to get a start in the industry and they don't even know where any of these places are as suggested in another recent thread.

The show has done well to cover a variety of niche operations across a massive geographical area and with a balance of fixed wing and rotary. I will admit that there is the odd slip up with subtitles and editing scenes, but overall it doesn't detract greatly from the entertainment.

If you find your watching it and can't help yourself from rolling your eyes... lighten up :) Not everyone is in aviation to pump up their own tyres by denigrating and casting aspersions on others. Although you are certainly entitled to your own opinions.

I will admit that I do expect a certain degree of journalistic licence throughout the show. Because of this it doesn't come as any great shock when it does pop up. I am reminded of the story of the truck driver who used to get really stressed and annoyed when other drivers would cut in front of him and display other risky manoeuvres. When asked how often these incidents happened, he said at least a few times a day. When it was pointed out to him that these events were likely to continue happening, it greatly reduced his stress reaction because he could reliably predict their occurrences in the future. It then became a case of nothing new to get upset about, so why throw the remote at the TV? Lol.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 7th Jun 2017 13:18

Re ' so why throw the remote at the TV? Lol. '

Because the 'production' is worse than watching 'Skippy' the bush kangaroo....

You know, when the 'production' staff are trying to make a desiccated stuffed dummy 'come to life'.....

Tis the same effect I feel......

Not too many cheers.....nope....:yuk:

Stationair8 7th Jun 2017 21:53

Aeroplane Repo is the way to go!

Now getting back to Outback Pilots, did Repa finish that spraying job?

111fairchild 8th Jun 2017 00:14

The show seems to be a bit of a trigger for some. Flashbacks to skippy too. The last production of skippy was 47 years ago. Might go some way to explaining the use of special effects and props.

I hope you're not still affected by these one hour a week episodes in 47 years.

Sounds a bit pedantic and melodramatic to me.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 8th Jun 2017 01:38

As 'Skip' might say......

Tch Tch Tch Tch....

:E

Art Smass 8th Jun 2017 02:05


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 9795473)
Because the 'production' is worse than watching 'Skippy' the bush kangaroo....

:

tsk - denigration of Skippy - unorstraylian:=:p

currawong 8th Jun 2017 10:01

I think appearing on such a show might be career limiting.

:ugh:

gerry111 8th Jun 2017 10:07


Originally Posted by currawong (Post 9796361)
I think appearing on such a show might be career limiting.

:ugh:

But I reckon not for Trevor..

It's "reality TV" crap but I find it entertaining. :uhoh:

Pinky the pilot 9th Jun 2017 11:57


but I find it entertaining.
Oh come on, Gerry111; I find it quite hard to believe that your standards have slipped that far!:=:D:D

Glorified Dus Briver 12th Jun 2017 02:36


Originally Posted by Eclan (Post 9795502)
. I find it hard to understand how it got past the "pilot" episode.

I see what you did there :ok::D:}:}:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

YPJT 13th Jun 2017 14:22

Apparently tonight's episode was even more cringeworthy

Ethel the Aardvark 13th Jun 2017 16:21

The old saying ' there's money in sh!t'
And I am not talking about the outback flying plumber

outnabout 13th Jun 2017 19:32

So, as far as I could tell, the death defying feats from tonight's episode include:
Flying night VFR
Flying into an uncontrolled airstrip (Ayers Rock)
Flying without radar coverage (day AND night which - according to the Voice Of Doom commentator - NO pilot EVER wants to do!)
Flying into an airport after the tower has closed for the day (Alice)

FFS

fujii 13th Jun 2017 21:49

A plumber dressing a stone chip in a prop blade.

Clare Prop 14th Jun 2017 01:52

Anyone notice the ambient light on the night landing from final was completely different to the light from the go-pro on the wing, which looked like he was landing about ahem 10 minutes before last light? :ugh::D:}

ACMS 14th Jun 2017 05:55

Just watching it now, "oh no he has no radar on his aircraft, how will he separate himself"


Radar Radar, stop going on about bloody Radar......

Grrrrr

cattletruck 14th Jun 2017 10:23

Watched it with the volume down. Can't understand why they keep chopping through the number of running stories, at least the aircraft and scenery look nice.

Drudgingly made it to the end of the show and the biggest reward was a story on the Super Guppy on another channel had just started :ok:

Captain Dart 14th Jun 2017 10:57

Just saw the Guppy episode on 'Mighty Planes'. Now that is how to make an aviation reality show. Not too much emphasis on the inevitable 'deadline' and not one single 'But...there's a problem'. No 'reminder scenes'. No stupid over the top music crescendos every five minutes (even when a flight deck window shattered at altitude). Educational, even for pilots, and beautiful scenery. And a very interesting old aircraft with unpretentious and competent crews (one captain had flown the Space Shuttle).

Interesting that they disconnect multiple control cables to swing the nose open on the thing. Stratoliner/Stratocruiser? airframe, B52 mainwheels, 707 nosewheel, P3 engines, Herc props!

BEACH KING 16th Jun 2017 22:40

Everyone on here that thinks the show is rubbish, appear to be very well updated on the goings-on.
So..it begs the question. Why do you continue to watch if it is sooo bad?
I'll watch it over Summer Bay any day, because I like watching anything to do with aircraft.
At an airport. I will watch aircraft taxiing, takeoff, land etc for no other reason than it is more interesting than anything else at the time (unless of course a smoking hot young lady happens to be in eyeshot).
The show is produced for the masses who have no idea of aircraft. If it were 100% accurate in our view, the show would probably be unwatchable by the proletariat who have not the slightest understanding of aircraft.
Apparently it rates quite well and is distributed internationally, so that can only bolster our tourism industry....which provides the vast majority of employment for most on here.
The plumber bloke (who I met recently at YBAS) waiting inline for the hire car at Uluru made me chuckle. Why couldn't one of the local Plods pick him up to go fix their own ****house ?

Desert Flower 17th Jun 2017 01:14


Originally Posted by fujii (Post 9801519)
A plumber dressing a stone chip in a prop blade.

So? Is he not supposed to do that because he's a plumber who happens to be flying his own aircraft? Is the flying padre not supposed to dress the prop on his own aircraft because he's a padre? :ugh:

DF.

megan 17th Jun 2017 01:23


The show is produced for the masses who have no idea of aircraft. If it were 100% accurate in our view, the show would probably be unwatchable by the proletariat who have not the slightest understanding of aircraft
Unfortunately their understanding is not going to be enhanced by watching this show, quite the reverse. Heroic pilots taking off with a hill X miles away and directly in their path, death defying flying at night, no radar (sob), and having to land after the tower closes (wail). The average Joe is going to have all their negatives of light aircraft reinforced.

Band a Lot 17th Jun 2017 02:38


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 9804442)
So? Is he not supposed to do that because he's a plumber who happens to be flying his own aircraft? Is the flying padre not supposed to dress the prop on his own aircraft because he's a padre? :ugh:

DF.



A plumber like a padre, is not qualified to file a prop.


Owning your own aircraft does not make anyone qualified to fly it.


The OP was indicating that the wrong qualification was being used to file a prop.

But did he have a MA? or was a LAME in the background giving "direct supervision and then signed the MR"?

fujii 17th Jun 2017 04:06


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 9804442)
So? Is he not supposed to do that because he's a plumber who happens to be flying his own aircraft? Is the flying padre not supposed to dress the prop on his own aircraft because he's a padre? :ugh:

DF.

It's not pilot approved maintenance. LAME job.

Jungmeister 17th Jun 2017 05:35

Its an OK production but as with anything that you have some knowledge of there are glaring errors. I notice that the during the much feared crosswind landing by the plumber a couple of weeks ago, the wind sock was hanging like a limp sausage as he flashed past!

fujii 17th Jun 2017 06:08

I wonder what the truck drivers think of the show about their industry.

Desert Flower 17th Jun 2017 06:53


Originally Posted by fujii (Post 9804490)
It's not pilot approved maintenance. LAME job.

So what are you supposed to do if you're in the middle of the outback, & the nearest LAME is several hundred kilometres away? Guess I had better erase all the memories I have of pilots dressing props & doing other things over the years then. And some of them have been pretty high up in the game too - such as a very senior military person!

DF.

outnabout 17th Jun 2017 07:00

Desert Flower, the legal thing to do is ground the aircraft, fly in an engineer, and have him / her dress the prop and sign the MR. Legally, it is immaterial if the LAME is next door or in the next state....

Cloudee 17th Jun 2017 07:37


Originally Posted by Desert Flower (Post 9804565)
So what are you supposed to do if you're in the middle of the outback, & the nearest LAME is several hundred kilometres away? Guess I had better erase all the memories I have of pilots dressing props & doing other things over the years then. And some of them have been pretty high up in the game too - such as a very senior military person!

DF.

What you are supposed to do is do whatever you need to do but don't do it on national television.

Desert Flower 17th Jun 2017 08:15


Originally Posted by outnabout (Post 9804588)
Desert Flower, the legal thing to do is ground the aircraft, fly in an engineer, and have him / her dress the prop and sign the MR. Legally, it is immaterial if the LAME is next door or in the next state....

Yes you made your point - no need to post it twice. :ugh:

DF.

PLovett 17th Jun 2017 09:43


Originally Posted by fujii (Post 9804536)
I wonder what the truck drivers think of the show about their industry.

Their's was on immediately before this one. Also cringeworthy but with more substance to the troubles they face while on the road.

601 17th Jun 2017 10:58


Its an OK production but as with anything that you have some knowledge of there are glaring errors.
As I keep telling my First Mate, it is a TV show, not real life.

aroa 18th Jun 2017 09:49

Plumber...PPL. ?? Carrying his tools of trade and goods for sale...Mmm NO CPL or AOC ??

Reg 206 and all that. Is that plumbers and photographers have been roasted and toasted for that..! LAMEs too!! But that's the 'Sky cops' for ya...!!

Oh ...and dont forget 2 (7)d...allowing an aircraft to be used for a commercial purpose.
They can do ya twice...how good is that .

But remember...Empty skies are Safe Skies.


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