1 of 2 likely scenarios:

1. Wrong bleed configuration selected in FMS, resulting in Vspeeds and N1 data dropping out; or
2. Turned pitot heats on too early and cooked the probes, resulting in Vspeed and N1 data dropping out. Can't do anything about it until they have cooled down<40 degrees.

Old trap for newbies. But on the upside they didn't takeoff. Wouldn't be the first operator I know to just blast off.

Better not to take off than become a long lawn dart.

Could also be a mission equipment failure.

Video of the 604 doing search training has been leaked....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3UblQ3kOg5o

This has become a basket case, reduced capability, it will be over 6 months before the west gets any SAR capability. Cairns 2 months late, Essendon who knows.

Todays Australian

Troubled Bombardier Challenger rescue jets ready to fly

The long-delayed launch of the Australian Maritime Safety Authority’s new $604 million rescue jets is set for take-off this month, with the troubled Cobham-operated Bombardier Challenger aircraft finally receiving regulatory approvals needed to fly.

But the approvals have come with significant changes to the 12-year contract awarded to Cob-ham, with sources saying that as many as a dozen amendments have been made that could potentially reduce the search-and-*rescue capabilities of the jets.

Sources say the contract amendments include changes to the minimum allowed weight of safety stores and devices, and reduced fuel capacity when on standby.

The reduction to the minimum drop weight was made after a test of the aircraft was abandoned when supplies dropped from the plane — including a 38kg plastic tub — struck the jet’s engine cowling. AMSA said it was aware of the incident, which was reported to CASA as required.

AMSA and Cobham declined to comment on the contract changes, saying its terms were commercial in confidence. But the maritime safety authority did say that Cobham had redesigned its stores delivery system to accommodate the different speed of the new aircraft to ensure stores did not hit the fuselage in the future.

A spokeswoman for Cobham said the company was “fully *focused” on the launch of the first aircraft into service and that they would meet “all of the capability requirements set out by AMSA”.

With the amendments and aircraft redesigns in place, Cobham was able to successfully complete a proving flight on Monday under supervision from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.

“Cobham has received an air operator’s certificate to operate the CL604 aircraft. AMSA expects Cobham to commence service this month,” an AMSA spokesman said.

The commencement of the contract cannot come soon enough, with AMSA increasingly left without sufficient long-range search-and-rescue aircraft as its previous contract with Aero*Rescue and its fleet of Dornier aircraft comes to an end.

The Australian revealed last month that the four Cobham-*operated Challenger jets were supposed to be operating since August, when the first of four custom-fitted Challenger 604s was to begin flying out of Perth, but instead all of Western Australia has been without the long-range search-and-rescue aircraft since they ran into regulatory hurdles.

AMSA admitted that Cobham had experienced a number of delays in modification, integration and certification of the aircraft.

It said it would not make any payments to Cobham until the aircraft were fully operational.

The Cobham aircraft were to progressively replace the AeroRescue Dornier aircraft based in Perth, Cairns and Essendon.

While two of those Dorniers — one based in Brisbane and one based in Melbourne — are still in operation under the AeroRescue contract, they are some six hours away from Perth should an emergency situation unfold there.

A second Challenger aircraft to operate out of AMSA’s Cairns base was due to begin service in October but it too has been left without the jet. The third Challenger is scheduled to begin operations from Essendon this month and the fourth ancillary aircraft from March next year.

AMSA said Cobham was aiming to have all bases online by the end of February next year.

When is late - too late, almost 4 months and no SAR aircraft in Perth. Nearly two months late for Cairns, by all accounts an incomplete and barely tasks capable aircraft will be there next week, using an inexperienced crew cobbled together from the ranks of people who can say they have been " checked". Adopt the position RCC, you are about to get a rogering.

Whats that old saying, "better late than never", which is the case here, but that saying would not go down well for some poor suffering sole in distress.

Maybe something like "better never than ever"

C604 in Cairns
 

XND is currently having a jolly taxy around Cairns taxiways and rwy15 at the moment. I believe that may be why JQ952 just conducted a missed approach...hopefully not the same reason as in Perth.

Whats was that?
 

Something broke on the take off roll. Abort. Get used to it
Its like an old holden

Aborted Takeoff
 

What was the reason in Perth??

sad day today seeing the EN base packing up the office and loading the aircraft with boxes and more boxes

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gsTw9eSIQ6w

....#1 is a goer!!!

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ationa-432488/

6 months late

better late than never?

Interesting to see the Dash 8's placed in Thursday Island, Darwin and Broome with Challenger is Perth, Melb and Cairns, perhaps some crossover on taskings

Farce
 

The press say Cobham created 30 new jobs, they didn't mention Cobham they ditched 30 experienced operators. Now everyone will be high fixing that there is an airframe in Cairns, they forget that it's drop system is dangerous and half the new sensors don't work. Let alone the long road to be travelled before the crew get their act together. Vomit worthy

https://resonatinglife.files.wordpre...10/02/sole.jpg

Sole in distress.

https://www.stormylifejackets.com.au..._mp-low-56.jpg

Soul in distress.

Any questions?

It's Christmas: treat yourself to a new pair of shoes, Iccy!

Yes, Iccy, just one question.

Did the soulless EBA negotiations wrangle those sole-less shoes for the pilots too?

AFAP not at the table in SAR Pilot Award ??

...and could this SAR farce have been averted if Professional Pilots were involved at the very start to negotiate professional terms and conditions?

(Yeah, I know that's two. But the second question is rhetorical)

pithblot

There are Dashs on Thursday Island now?

As for crossover, the Dashs are often first on scene, but don't drop stores anymore. So no crossover. Unless Cobham wants to cut into their new contract at a (no doubt) lower rate than the 604.

Just to be clear pithblot you do realise that there are two distinct and markedly different contracts being talked about here?

Come on Bloggs, dig deep and help me out, non sparking remember.

I know nuthink! :}

So the Jets up and running finally, but behold Christmas is upon us and word has it that the poor people at Cobham don't like working over Christmas....No coverage out of Cairns 24-26th.

Lets make a broadcast to tell all to not get into trouble up north. When are AMSA going to harden up and not tolerate this, they are being dictated to!!!

Never fear though 24/7 coverage is happening down south. Oh thats right the Sydney to Hobart is on.

SMG I'm with you. Let's launch a proper Coastguard and do things like most other nations instead of the "KMart" approach...

Merry Xmas!

so she went from Cairns to Learmonth with a few laps before returning.....

It was only time, when everything seemed to be going well here in the tropical north the inevitable happened, during a training flight the deployment of our store has struck again, this time the thrust reverser, XND is grounded.

Here come CASA!!!

I recall some newbie expert stating that this was impossible on this forum a few months ago. What now, the crews are unhappy with a toxic environment prevailing. The service is going to be on a razors edge of safety, you simply can not afford a store hitting the airframe, let alone an engines thrust reverser, are you serious AMSA? What if the bucket cracked open, or a rope got caught?

Sounds like everything is fine.
Nothing to see here.

It flew yesterday so whatever issue there was must have been resolved quickly.

Where's the jet, Dornier ferries across Oz to provide SAR coverage off Cairns and no sign of the jet...Hmm

What's the go here, I landed in Cairns around midday & a 328 is back at AeroRescue, have they reopened the base up here again? I thought they had all closed up & selling the aircraft, if that's the case what happens if they do sell the aircraft? Who will be there to cover then?

Have another look Code.name and you will see it again, back from Melbourne yet again, who know's how long for this time.

Aero rescue has moved back in to provide SAR service?

It appears that no-one really cares anymore, this story is so bad you could not have scripted it, although it was certainly predicted.
No SAR aircraft in Perth for over 6 months now, nothing in Essendon, no spare, 1/2 a plane in Cairns which is not a pretty hanger queen. Well behind on crew with a non sustainable roster.
But there's more, an engine fire on the ground in ADL toasted a powerplant, thank god it wasnt airborne.
Thats going to set things back further, no way Cobham are going to make any money out of this contract. Unless - you could always reduce pay and conditions and maybe not have as many crew as you said you were going to, maybe just maybe you will break even.
The aircrew must be brave- but someone has to blaze a trail, no pun intended.
whew?

It won't be long before they go back to the days of Chieftains contracted from flying schools to cover the gap! Wind back 20 years

essendon had both dornier and challenger there yesterday when we landed

Not much longer for the last Dornier, 27th Feb all ceases

Will the Challenger take over from the Dornier at Essendon or will we not be covered as well?

No coverage from what I have heard.

Cairns still the only base covered by Cobham, Perth now been without coverage since August.

Reverse Bid on E-BAY advise
 

Hi FMTAfterburn Guru Master, we really need your help up here pls :uhoh:

How do you reverse a bid on Ebay :confused:

We put a nasty bid in last week for a cheap Cowboy Outfit & we've just won that Auction

Unbeknown to us we have just found out that we now own 4 x Dodgey Red n White / very expensive / under performing / troublesome / useless CL 604s :yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

HELP US FMTAfterburn