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Ultralights 6th Jun 2010 01:44

Matt Hall loads his pants!
 
pics say it all.

great flying or luck?

http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Red...d_Bull_Air.JPG

http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Red...d_Bull_Air.JPG

http://www.redbullairrace.com/cs/Red...d_Bull_Air.JPG


"I felt I was having a fairly good run,” Hall said. “I might have skipped twice on the water. It’s a very disappointing result for me. It’s the motor racing equivalent of touching the wall."
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1688147_n.jpg

dreamjob 6th Jun 2010 01:57

Wow, Arch almost came unstuck here too. What's going on!

ForkTailedDrKiller 6th Jun 2010 02:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvH-U8DiJKQ

Just looks like a completely idiotic thing to be doing, IMO!

I still remember the carnage of top level motor racing in the 60's and 70's when many of the best in the business died:

Clark, McLaren, Courage, Rindt, Moss (almost) etc

Dr :8

PyroTek 6th Jun 2010 02:40

Qualifying Highlights, Windsor :: Red Bull Air Race Videos
- bit more detailed than forkies :P - once you skip past the promo stuff at the start. :ok:

Wally Mk2 6th Jun 2010 03:05

These guys are seriously nuts!!!!:}

Aviation is as safe as eggs, until something like this happens & proves it otherwise. It was bound to happen as we saw a few months ago & heaven forbid it will most likely get worse (with the obvious results). Trouble is where do you draw the line? Risks, it's all about risks, calculated ones mostly.


Wmk2

OZBUSDRIVER 6th Jun 2010 03:35

Cummon people! It's just high g turns and basic aeros.....A demo pilot should be able to do as much.:E

glekichi 6th Jun 2010 04:04


These guys are seriously nuts!!!!
Ya mean cos they only have one engine? :}:}

Ned Parsnip 6th Jun 2010 04:25

Another view -

sleemanj 6th Jun 2010 05:29

Well they wouldn't do it if it wasn't dangerous really, would they, that's probably what makes it a buzz for the pilots, I can see that, if I had the skills and money and physical conditioning and... I could see me giving it a go.

You only live once.

peuce 6th Jun 2010 06:10

Here is a list of the most dangerous sports in the World.
Cheerleading comes in at No.1 ... Pylon Racing ... No. 52

Most Dangerous Sports - Top Ten List


No, I don't know how they rate them.

Should we ban Cheerleading?:eek:

ForkTailedDrKiller 6th Jun 2010 06:17


Here is a list of the most dangerous sports in the World.
Cheerleading comes in at No.1 ... Pylon Racing ... No. 52
Not a valid comparison!

What is the ranking where the only outcome considered is the DEATH of the participant?

Dr :8

muffman 6th Jun 2010 06:37

Is it really that much worse than F1 racing in terms of danger? F1 cars are probably going faster and have the added risk of running into each other.

ForkTailedDrKiller 6th Jun 2010 06:47

Looked like a high speed stall to me, but I will await Planky's conformation on that!

Dr :8

toolowtoofast 6th Jun 2010 07:06


Originally Posted by ForkTailedDrKiller (Post 5737203)
Not a valid comparison!

What is the ranking where the only outcome considered is the DEATH of the participant?

Dr :8

Um no - there has now been 2 x ground (water) touches in a month or so One was a bit more than a touch), and pilots have walked away from both.

Thomo91 6th Jun 2010 07:53

Great recovery.

Matt explains what happened here - What happened?? My water impact (incl. video)|Matt Hall Racing

pa60ops 6th Jun 2010 07:57

gee...both incidents over water. I have no personal practice at this stuff (obviously :}) but is it more risky doing this low level work over water that land??? I did look kind of overcast on the photos. Bet you will lose no claim bonus for that claim!!! :E

slackie 6th Jun 2010 09:06

IMHO it's only a matter of (probably a very short) time before we see our first fatality in the RBAR. As these guys take more and more risks to be the fastest they are flurting with an extremely unforgiving sport. We all know what happens when you push the envelope with aviation, whether it be pushing VFR in poor weather, or low level high G manoevres. The closer to the edge you get the smaller the margins, and less likelihood for recovery if the edge is crossed.

Captain Sand Dune 6th Jun 2010 10:13

Ah, hark the loungeroom experts.:rolleyes:
Yep, lets ban it all at fly around at FL350 straight and level.
Long live the nanny state!!:ugh:

Mick.B 6th Jun 2010 10:45

He has had a big head cold all week that kept him in bed all day. Probably didnt help.

remoak 6th Jun 2010 13:32


The closer to the edge you get the smaller the margins, and less likelihood for recovery if the edge is crossed.
Yes but that's the whole point, isn't it? That's why these guys enjoy it, along with racing car drivers, bike racers, free divers, all those guys. They just happen to do it in an aircraft. These guys LIVE to take risks.

To me it just looks like an extreme form of ag flying.

Let them get on with it, sure somebody will die eventually but taking the risk is their choice. I'd rather not be forcibly wrapped in cotton wool and protected by the state, thank you very much!


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